IRC Log from 2011-01-15
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00:34:57 <Thasmo> Guys, is there a software which I could boot up to run in the background which can log 'internet access' - my PC sometimes is lagging a lot, and I think some software runs updates or something, and I'd like to find out which it is.
00:42:00 <Tritonio> Thasmo: netlimiter can do it. it's not free though.
00:42:19 <Thasmo> just found wireshark. maybe does the job?
00:42:39 <Tritonio> also I've found process monitor (procmon) very useful for finding why a computer lags.
00:42:51 <Tritonio> wireshark will not tell you which app uses your connection.
00:43:23 <Thasmo> Tritonio, thanks - I'll have a look at procmon then. Thanks a bunch
00:43:57 <Tritonio> np Thasmo. procmon belongs to the sysinternals suit.
00:44:05 <Thasmo> Tritonio, that os?
00:44:06 <Thasmo> is?
00:44:36 <Thasmo> uh I see - that are a lot of applications. :>
00:44:43 <Tritonio> a free collection of utilities for windows. just google sysinternals procmon to find it
00:45:10 <Thasmo> Tritonio, do I need to install the suite or can I just unpack it somewhere?
00:45:17 <Thasmo> in sense of is it portable? :>
00:45:43 <Tritonio> you just run it. it will leave a few reg entries though i think.
00:45:54 <Thasmo> k k
00:46:04 <Thasmo> thanks ill have a look - download runs.
00:46:07 <Tritonio> and after it has collected enough data check out the tools menu.
00:46:22 <Tritonio> especially the "Network Summary"
00:47:59 <Thasmo> k
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00:51:39 <Thasmo> cool stuff :>
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00:55:43 <vf2nsr> looks like we having spamfun again on forums
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00:55:52 <vf2nsr> http://portableapps.com/node/19472
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02:23:50 <martinatlismore7> re portable openoffice, does anyone know how to get the java working with Zotero plugin?
02:39:00 <martinatlismore7> Hello? anyone awake? I have a prodigious citation library in Zotero (plugin for firefox) and I would like to use zotero in portable openoffice. There's one chap with an idea how to fix it, but we want some of you guys to look into it. Here's the post: http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=37251
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04:19:59 * ChrisMorgan has just fixed his laptop's power cable which was getting exceedingly finicky... cut it open in the right place, fixed the offending bit of cable, patched it up with junctions and whatnot and put it all back together... and it works :-)
04:21:44 <JohnTHaller> Nice
04:22:00 <JohnTHaller> Wrapped in black electrical tape for that full "I fixed it myself" chic?
04:23:18 * OliverK did that to a vacum cleaner
04:24:08 <OliverK> 120 volts instead of 12 ;)
04:28:22 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: that'll be coming next :-)
04:29:33 <JohnTHaller> Good. It's not tacky. It's a badge of honor.
04:30:00 <OliverK> ChrisMorgan: get some shrink tubing
04:30:19 <OliverK> you'll have to take the cable apart, but the shrink tubing works better
04:34:27 <ChrisMorgan> OliverK: that requires going out and getting something... and stripping the whole cable... I'm too lazy for that :-)
04:34:37 <OliverK> no, not the hual cable
04:34:45 <OliverK> just where the break is
04:35:17 <ChrisMorgan> Yeah, s'pose so. Anyway, I used junctions rather than soldering this time. Shrink tubing wouldn't work properly.
04:35:37 <OliverK> you should solder it
04:35:43 <OliverK> whole* cable
04:35:50 <OliverK> but, whatever works
04:36:04 <ChrisMorgan> I'll be able to tell my physics teacher from school that I used the continuity tester I made a couple of years ago again. Just a simple couple of LEDs, a bit of cabling with a clip, and a resistor, but quite useful.
04:36:43 * OliverK has a multimeter so . . . .
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05:27:02 <JohnTHaller> Today's app is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-01-14_-_notepad2_portable_4.1.24
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07:09:17 <Kiriko> Hey guys I have a quick question about Notepad2, Why did you not add Notepad2 with NSIS syntax highlight as it is here http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Notepad2
07:10:13 <JohnTHaller> It's just the base, standard Notepad2. There are about 6 different individual mods to add single languages. We won't do those. We may do Notepad2 Mod, too, which adds all of them, though.
07:10:35 <Kiriko> ok cool :)
07:10:38 <JohnTHaller> Notepad2 is mainly about HTML stuff. Lightweight as possible.
07:11:02 <JohnTHaller> N++ is a better option for NSIS coding. Though honestly, most devs won't be doing much NSIS coding anymore due to PA.c Launcher.
07:11:06 <Kiriko> ok I get it
07:11:19 <Kiriko> yea that is true
07:12:12 <Kiriko> I just moded Notepad2 to be used side by side with Notepad2 NSIS and it works
07:12:57 <Kiriko> but is true there wont be much nsis work to do with PAL
07:14:42 <JohnTHaller> Still will be. Some apps will need custom code. Like Mixx, Songbird, etc.
07:16:45 <Kiriko> true
07:17:26 <JohnTHaller> actually those two are sq;
07:17:27 <JohnTHaller> sql
07:20:01 <Kiriko> sql?
07:22:30 <JohnTHaller> yup. mixx and songbird both have sqlite database that have file names and paths in them that need updating by the launcher. messy business.
07:24:49 <Kiriko> ok that sound way to familiar to server maintness type thing
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09:16:14 <pa_3220> hello , my name is andreas. can I ask for advice?
09:40:23 <pa_3220> my apps like opera and skype got veeeery slow and lot of times get not responding
09:40:46 <pa_3220> when using on the maindisk everything ok... just on my 8 gb usb stick not
09:41:04 <pa_3220> may it have to do with the filesystem? using ntfs on the stick
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10:32:45 <mark105> nice work on the updater in beta 5, just tried it, works mint
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20:11:53 <Pestario> Hi
20:12:24 <Pestario> I just made an normal application portable in the portableapps.com format.
20:12:43 <Pestario> And I was wondering what I needed to do with the Other\Sources folder.
20:13:22 <Pestario> I haven't used NSIS or anything, just the PortableApp.com Installer.
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20:16:21 <Pestario> Gluxon
20:16:29 <gluxon> Yes?
20:16:49 <gluxon> Pestario: New here? :)
20:16:52 <Pestario> yeah
20:16:56 <Pestario> I have a question
20:16:59 <Pestario> can you help me out?
20:17:08 <gluxon> Yeah, go ahead, what is it?
20:17:37 <Pestario> Well, I just made a "regular" application portable in the portableapps.com standard and I was wondering what I needed to do with the Other\Sources folder.
20:17:57 <gluxon> You used PAL, right?
20:18:00 <Pestario> I only used the PortableApps.com Installer, and I think it's working now. I just don't know what "source" files I have to put there.
20:18:35 <Pestario> PAL = PortableApps Launcher ?
20:18:41 <gluxon> Yeah.
20:18:44 <Pestario> I didn't use that tool, just wrote the INI myself
20:19:15 <gluxon> What did you use to create [AppName]Portable.exe?
20:19:32 <Pestario> PortableApps.com Installer (latest version)
20:20:07 <gluxon> PortableApps.com Installer is meant to create an installer for your app, not make something portable.
20:20:28 <gluxon> Generally, developers use PAL to actually create a portable version of an app.
20:20:56 <Pestario> I see, maybe I've run that once though, but I didn't notice any changes.
20:21:43 <gluxon> What INI file did you modify? Could you post its name?
20:22:20 <Pestario> I made AppNamePortable.ini in App\Appinfo\Launcher
20:22:29 <Pestario> and appinfo.ini in App\Appinfo
20:22:53 <gluxon> Okay, then what needs to go into the source folder is just License.txt :)
20:23:16 <gluxon> Or perhaps nothing at all.
20:23:30 <Pestario> I have contacted the original creators of the app I made portable, and asked them under what license they are.
20:23:36 <Pestario> But they haven't responded yet.
20:24:00 <gluxon> License.txt is for the license of your Launcher.
20:24:05 <Pestario> oh :D
20:24:13 <Pestario> I thought of the original application haha
20:24:25 <gluxon> If they don't respond, then you can create a online installer.
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20:25:00 <gluxon> Oh, and [AppName]Portable.ini along with Readme.txt should also be in there.
20:25:06 <Pestario> yeah they are
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20:25:17 <Pestario> those 3 files: AppNamePortable.ini, License.txt and Readme.txt
20:25:44 <gluxon> Yep, you're all set to go then :)
20:26:10 <Pestario> I haven't changed the readme.txt and AppNamePortable.ini from the default though in Other\Source
20:26:14 <Pestario> is that ok?
20:26:29 <Pestario> can i leave those at default?
20:26:44 <gluxon> Yep.
20:26:53 <Pestario> Nice.
20:27:04 <gluxon> Well, you should rename AppNamePortable.ini if you haven't.
20:27:37 <Pestario> I have renamed the App\Appinfo\Launcher\[AppName]Portable.ini to mine, but I haven't done that for Other\Source yet.
20:28:18 <Pestario> Will do that too!
20:28:20 <Pestario> Well, I guess it's time to put up my first PortableApps.com Development Release than. Exciting :)
20:29:11 <gluxon> Hm.. nevermind, don't rename it.
20:29:30 <Pestario> Oh, okay.
20:29:51 <gluxon> Sorry, I wanted to double check, and Notepad2Portable has it that way.
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20:30:07 <ZachThibeau> Notepad2Portable o_O
20:30:08 <Pestario> Ah, the newest release :)
20:30:22 <ZachThibeau> someone else took that up without telling me? D:
20:30:33 <Pestario> Well it popped up in my RSS reader ;o
20:31:44 <ZachThibeau> I was going to restart it :P
20:31:47 <gluxon> ZachThibeau: Released yesterday :P
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20:32:00 <gluxon> ZachThibeau: Yeah, John did :P
20:32:03 <ZachThibeau> I was away most of yesterday and today
20:32:33 <ZachThibeau> but I started the initial portable version D:
20:32:43 <Pestario> I'm using the web IRC "Live Support Chat" now. Which IRC Client do you prefer that PortableApps.com offers?
20:33:13 <ZachThibeau> well I'm the official Developer of PChat and of the portable version :P
20:33:27 <Pestario> Oh haha, thats an easy one
20:33:43 <Pestario> I'm kind of new here, but I might join a little more often.
20:34:09 <Pestario> I'm using PortableApps.com for over a year now, and just made my first Dev Release :D
20:34:20 <Pestario> Going to put it up soon!
20:34:28 * ZachThibeau inserts corny old movie line, Stick with me kid and you learn wonders
20:34:44 <Pestario> Sweet haha. I'll remember that, thanks!
20:34:54 <ZachThibeau> lol
20:35:02 <gluxon> :P
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21:04:01 <Pestario> ZachThibeau: Thanks.
21:04:01 <Pestario> ZachThibeau: Thanks.
21:04:12 <ZachThibeau> np
21:04:12 <ZachThibeau> np
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23:04:04 <azizLIGHTS> firefox portable, i download .torrent file and "open" it, it gets downloaded to C:\Users\Aziz\AppData\Local\Temp (win7 here) . how can i change this behavbiour
23:04:04 <azizLIGHTS> firefox portable, i download .torrent file and "open" it, it gets downloaded to C:\Users\Aziz\AppData\Local\Temp (win7 here) . how can i change this behavbiour
23:07:32 <ZachThibeau> by clicking selecting the other option called save file
23:07:32 <ZachThibeau> by clicking selecting the other option called save file
23:08:41 <azizLIGHTS> any way to specify my own temp folder
23:08:41 <azizLIGHTS> any way to specify my own temp folder
23:09:38 <ZachThibeau> not really, the easiest solution is to save file which opens a file save dialog where you choose the folder
23:09:38 <ZachThibeau> not really, the easiest solution is to save file which opens a file save dialog where you choose the folder
23:12:15 <ZachThibeau> and frankly it's the best offered solution
23:12:15 <ZachThibeau> and frankly it's the best offered solution
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23:17:21 <azizLIGHTS> can i have it save automatically to te dir i specify
23:17:21 <azizLIGHTS> can i have it save automatically to te dir i specify
23:21:45 <ZachThibeau> you can but as you move it to another computer then it won't work anymore unless the folder exists on the computer you use it on next
23:21:45 <ZachThibeau> you can but as you move it to another computer then it won't work anymore unless the folder exists on the computer you use it on next
23:29:34 <azizLIGHTS> hmmm ok
23:29:34 <azizLIGHTS> hmmm ok
23:29:36 <azizLIGHTS> thanks
23:29:36 <azizLIGHTS> thanks
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