IRC Log from 2011-01-18
00:00:17 <VoodooFace> ok, ill check some earlier versions of wesnoth .. in fact, i dont really *need* wesnoth, just tried it with some other apps from portableapps.com ... until the virusscanner popped up ... just want to be sure that my machine is still clean...
00:02:34 <CruelC> Launcher.ini (openlieroxportable.ini) is ready. Appinfo.ini and an icon remain, then I can PAL it. I fail at PAcIM (installer maker), so I'll just yandex it up and send you the link.
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00:11:40 <CruelC> since my trial of microangelo expired, I can't rip icons
00:11:52 <CruelC> so I'll use a dummy one.
00:12:19 <CruelC> The maintainer will need to make the rest and package it as paf.exe
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00:23:54 <CruelC> damn, I damaged my profile
00:24:28 <CruelC> wish openlierox was using appdata, it'd be simpler to wrap
00:24:59 <sar3th> CruelC: there is a way to determine the location of the user's MyDocuments folder in windows
00:25:01 <sar3th> are you using PAL?
00:26:10 <CruelC> yes
00:26:37 <CruelC> all I need is a bulletcode like %userprofile% or %appdata%
00:27:09 <CruelC> but it's too late, I damaged my Windows profile
00:27:38 <CruelC> now there's only 12 "public" icons on my desktop, and so on.
00:28:07 <kiriko> do asystem restore
00:28:32 <CruelC> I'm unaware of any restore points, plus it'd take the whole night
00:30:05 <CruelC> Never do coding outside a state-backwarding virtual machine!
00:30:09 <sar3th> CruelC: http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/launcher/manual/ref/envsub/#documents
00:32:25 <CruelC> sar3th: well... I need "c:\docume~1\user\mydocu~1" and "c:\users\user\documents" referenced as a single variable.
00:34:03 <CruelC> It is to be used under both NT5 and NT6
00:35:25 <CruelC> as there's %userprofile%, %appdata%, why not %userdocuments%? why didn't M$ implement that?
00:37:05 <CruelC> as of attempting to wrap it to be both nt5 and nt6-compatible, I broke my desktop. =(
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00:44:38 <CruelC> barely figured it's %DOCUMENTS%
00:44:54 <CruelC> ok, packing the archive
00:44:58 <VoodooFace> CruelC: what about using the registry to find the documents location
00:45:19 <CruelC> I don't know how to use registry from within an INI.
00:45:30 <CruelC> so I used %DOCUMENTS% and it worked
00:45:36 <VoodooFace> one point for you :)
00:46:32 <VoodooFace> hmm...whats %DOCUMENTS% ? ... doesnt seem to be a normal environment variable
00:49:04 <CruelC> at least it worked and forced pa.c to wrap %USERPROFILE%\documents to normal place
00:49:14 <CruelC> maybe on 7 only, though
00:49:50 <CruelC> 11% uploaded to Yandex (as promised)
00:49:57 <VoodooFace> well, ok, by the way...registry stores the information about most common user paths @ HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\User Shell Folders\
00:51:14 <CruelC> I just don't know how to reference registry, the rest will be relatively easy to find via google
00:52:05 <CruelC> someone will need to complete the packaging and rip the icon (my trial of microangelo expired)
00:53:17 <CruelC> 37% uploaded
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00:57:32 <CruelC> there must be something to prevent mind-absent people from attempting to code.
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00:59:17 <CruelC> and I, surely, _am_ worse than mind-absent. =(
01:00:17 <CruelC> 90% uploaded. Don't forget, it's only a pre-alpha, maintainer still has heaps of things to do to PAF it.
01:01:16 <CruelC> rather, 2 maintainers. One on NT5, one on NT6
01:01:24 <CruelC> http://narod.ru/disk/3741844001/OpenLieroXPortable.rar.html
01:03:12 <CruelC> For more safety, wait for drweb to check the stuff
01:03:34 <CruelC> drweb is put on narod disk to scan incoming files.
01:04:28 <sar3th> uhm CruelC, <sar3th> CruelC: http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/launcher/manual/ref/envsub/#documents
01:04:37 <sar3th> guess where %documents% comes from >_>
01:05:38 <CruelC> I barely figured that DOCUMENTS is a variable in itself, used to think all variables are multi-word
01:06:31 <CruelC> User Profile, App Data, ... wouldn't think of one-word variable for documents.
01:07:53 <CruelC> reverse pig sight syndrome. can't think that sometthing might be simpler than other similar things
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04:42:43 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: Did my email get to you? Was having trouble with Time warner today :)
04:43:28 <JohnTHaller> aquasnap? yes. There was nothing attached, though
04:43:44 <vf2nsr> Oh really
04:43:55 <vf2nsr> let me try again Dang Roadrunner
04:45:57 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: OK on its way again.....I hope
04:59:23 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: email me if you do not get it this time need to head off
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04:59:51 <JohnTHaller> got it
04:59:54 <JohnTHaller> Missed him
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05:29:51 <JohnTHaller> Today's app is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-01-17_-_winboard_portable_4.4.4
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05:57:50 <vf2nsr> JohnTHaller: read log see you got it thanks for your help
05:59:46 <JohnTHaller> It's up./ PMed you
06:00:20 <vf2nsr> ty sorry in 2 seperate chat programs did not see the blinking will update iy
06:00:58 <vf2nsr> sort of working in my other chat
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06:04:12 <JacobMastel> JohnTHaller: I'm working on updating the Stickies code to add language support... where do you normally perfer language files be stored? Remember they're all zip files and must be extracted to change the languages...
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06:06:07 <JohnTHaller> I'd suggest putting them all in App\Stickies\Languages. All unzipped (we're not gonna unzip every time).
06:06:16 <JohnTHaller> One directory per language in Languages
06:06:29 <JohnTHaller> Matching the language variable of your choice from the platform, of course
06:06:47 <JacobMastel> alright that works. It's super annoying all languages have the same file name...
06:07:28 <JohnTHaller> I know
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06:14:47 <Jacobm001> JohnTHaller: I'm guessing keep it to the platform's language?
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06:15:13 <JohnTHaller> Your choice of the vars. You'll find em all in the PAL Manual
06:15:54 <JohnTHaller> I'd recommend just the regular one PortableApps.comLocaleName
06:16:10 <JacobMastel> Right, but the app should check to what ever language the platform is set to and conform to it right?
06:18:14 <JohnTHaller> Correct. Basically, you check to see if it's set, then delete the lang that is there (if there is one). Then, if the lang is English, do nothing. If it is something else, copy it in. Then write out the current lang to the StickiesPortableSettings.ini file for next time, so you can check if it changed or not.
06:18:35 <JohnTHaller> That way, if it hasn't changed, you can avoid copying something else in. Becuase PAL will always try to switch it to English otherwise.
06:19:20 <JacobMastel> Alright.
06:19:20 <JohnTHaller> I did another app with pal that did some of that. And can't recall which. Hang on...
06:19:20 <JacobMastel> Thanks
06:21:13 <JohnTHaller> Argh, I can't remember. Released too many apps lately. Chris might recall. I'd suggest a post in the dev forum to ensure we get it right.
06:23:54 <JacobMastel> Alright will do.
06:32:45 <JacobMastel> posted
06:32:45 <JacobMastel> http://portableapps.com/node/26326
06:34:10 <JohnTHaller> Ok, it was Gnumeric. And it;s a bit different.
06:34:20 <JohnTHaller> SO not so heklpfuk
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06:37:47 <JacobMastel> what's with the site-offline thing?
06:38:35 <JohnTHaller> Database is offline. Think the backup is re-running.
06:39:13 <JohnTHaller> Yup. Plesk control panel is down, so the db backup is being re-run.
06:40:50 <JacobMastel> Well that makes a little delay until I can grab a copy of Gnumeric :P
06:41:38 <JohnTHaller> tis back
06:42:02 <JohnTHaller> So glad I themed and customized that page rather than the default Drupal error page
06:42:24 <JacobMastel> Yeah it looks pretty nice. Definitely made me laugh the first few times i saw it :P
06:42:41 <JohnTHaller> Maybe I'll change it monthly or something
06:42:48 <JohnTHaller> Let people submit ideas
06:42:53 <JohnTHaller> or drawings
06:43:22 <JacobMastel> That would be cool... Or maybe a featured app?
06:43:58 <JacobMastel> Get a picture of a napping firefox? :P
06:44:00 <JohnTHaller> Then it would miss our download trackers once we bring em online
06:44:05 <JacobMastel> True.
06:45:09 <JacobMastel> http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.blogcdn.com/www.pawnation.com/media/2010/06/firefoxforreal.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.pawnation.com/tag/firefox/&usg=__qDiOZ59Z9HKpnollnQUnRfo9wD0=&h=393&w=590&sz=45&hl=en&start=0&sig2=7CPNhHUvTDg0mGKvLknzzA&zoom=1&tbnid=6UJgQdOW70S00M:&tbnh=146&tbnw=210&ei=5TY1Tez9AoWmsQO73ISzBQ&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnapping%2Bfirefox%26hl%3Den%26gbv%3D2%26biw%3D1600%26bih%3D770%26output%3Di
06:45:09 <JacobMastel> mages_json%26tbs%3Disch:1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=1284&vpy=254&dur=170&hovh=183&hovw=275&tx=148&ty=68&oei=5jY1TfS4B4OqsAO5y9izBQ&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=31&ved=1t:429,r:14,s:0
06:45:17 <JacobMastel> Wow that's a big link...
06:45:47 <JohnTHaller> http://blog.urbanoutfitters.com/files/the_cute_show.jpg
06:46:16 <JohnTHaller> WIth a little computer chip. Saying 'give that back so we can give people apps'
06:47:13 <JacobMastel> lol
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12:54:10 <kiriko> Good Morning Guys! :)
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16:09:56 <CruelC> Hi.
16:09:56 <CruelC> Hi.
16:10:04 <CruelC> O0o_o0O
16:10:04 <CruelC> O0o_o0O
16:10:20 <CruelC> Profile still not fully fixed
16:10:20 <CruelC> Profile still not fully fixed
16:14:55 <kiriko> -_- that sucks
16:14:55 <kiriko> -_- that sucks
16:16:43 <CruelC> videos, pictures... and other folders missing
16:16:43 <CruelC> videos, pictures... and other folders missing
16:16:46 <CruelC> =!=
16:16:46 <CruelC> =!=
16:18:33 * CruelC is a sick, mindless fatty.
16:18:33 * CruelC is a sick, mindless fatty.
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16:51:37 <CruelC> so?
16:51:37 <CruelC> so?
16:52:09 <CruelC> what about the OpenLieroX I uploaded?
16:52:09 <CruelC> what about the OpenLieroX I uploaded?
16:52:38 <CruelC> Should I post the link to the openlierox request thread?
16:52:38 <CruelC> Should I post the link to the openlierox request thread?
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18:53:04 <Tritonio> hello
18:53:04 <Tritonio> hello
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18:53:11 <JohnTHaller> hi
18:53:11 <JohnTHaller> hi
18:53:11 <Tritonio> if anyone remembers my firefox problem
18:53:12 <Tritonio> if anyone remembers my firefox problem
18:53:25 <Tritonio> that I couldn't save files
18:53:25 <Tritonio> that I couldn't save files
18:53:34 <Tritonio> it''s not firefox portable related
18:53:34 <Tritonio> it''s not firefox portable related
18:53:40 <JohnTHaller> what's the issue?
18:53:40 <JohnTHaller> what's the issue?
18:53:47 <JohnTHaller> permissions? drive corruption?
18:53:47 <JohnTHaller> permissions? drive corruption?
18:54:01 <Tritonio> it seems ALL my browsers (chrome/FF/portable/installed) cannot save files. They crash whenever the download is finished...
18:54:01 <Tritonio> it seems ALL my browsers (chrome/FF/portable/installed) cannot save files. They crash whenever the download is finished...
18:54:32 <JohnTHaller> You sure you have a TEMP directory defined, that it's on a disk with free space, and you have permission to write to it? That'd be my guess.
18:54:32 <JohnTHaller> You sure you have a TEMP directory defined, that it's on a disk with free space, and you have permission to write to it? That'd be my guess.
18:54:52 <Tritonio> JohnTHaller: not permissions. I am also suspecting some drive problem...
18:54:52 <Tritonio> JohnTHaller: not permissions. I am also suspecting some drive problem...
18:55:05 <JohnTHaller> Did you scan it for errors yet
18:55:05 <JohnTHaller> Did you scan it for errors yet
18:55:05 <JohnTHaller> ?
18:55:05 <JohnTHaller> ?
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18:55:24 <Tritonio> free space is enough. the problem appears even for downloads off a few KB
18:55:24 <Tritonio> free space is enough. the problem appears even for downloads off a few KB
18:56:11 <Tritonio> i scanned...
18:56:11 <Tritonio> i scanned...
18:56:32 <Tritonio> before some days when the problem started.
18:56:32 <Tritonio> before some days when the problem started.
18:57:01 <Tritonio> i tried to scan again today, including a surface scan, so a scheduled a scan for the reboot but windows skipped it says "drive is clean"
18:57:01 <Tritonio> i tried to scan again today, including a surface scan, so a scheduled a scan for the reboot but windows skipped it says "drive is clean"
18:57:06 <Tritonio> :-)
18:57:06 <Tritonio> :-)
18:58:51 <Tritonio> ok i managed to save a file on my flash drive without chrome crashing...
18:58:51 <Tritonio> ok i managed to save a file on my flash drive without chrome crashing...
18:59:14 <Tritonio> it looks like it crashed when i save on the disk... i probably need a new one...:-(
18:59:14 <Tritonio> it looks like it crashed when i save on the disk... i probably need a new one...:-(
18:59:20 <JohnTHaller> You scan for viruses and malware, too?
18:59:20 <JohnTHaller> You scan for viruses and malware, too?
19:00:22 <Tritonio> yeah it's definitelly nothing like that... now i managed to save to the hard disk too... ffs i still don't know what the problem is then. the only sure thing is that i've seen both browsers crash when finishing a download...
19:00:22 <Tritonio> yeah it's definitelly nothing like that... now i managed to save to the hard disk too... ffs i still don't know what the problem is then. the only sure thing is that i've seen both browsers crash when finishing a download...
19:00:43 <Tritonio> it crashed again
19:00:43 <Tritonio> it crashed again
19:00:52 <Tritonio> a minute after finishing the download.
19:00:52 <Tritonio> a minute after finishing the download.
19:00:55 <Tritonio> AAAARG
19:00:55 <Tritonio> AAAARG
19:01:35 <JohnTHaller> It's a system issue, not a browser issue, then.
19:01:35 <JohnTHaller> It's a system issue, not a browser issue, then.
19:03:33 <Tritonio> yeap.
19:03:33 <Tritonio> yeap.
19:06:14 <Thasmo> maybe windows indexing service or a virus scanner?
19:06:14 <Thasmo> maybe windows indexing service or a virus scanner?
19:07:11 <JohnTHaller> If there is crashing going on, it's something bigger than a permissions or space issue. So something is in there mucking it up.
19:07:11 <JohnTHaller> If there is crashing going on, it's something bigger than a permissions or space issue. So something is in there mucking it up.
19:21:38 <Tritonio> i uninstalled my AV thinking it was creating the problem.
19:21:38 <Tritonio> i uninstalled my AV thinking it was creating the problem.
19:21:49 <Tritonio> I will tell you when I find out what it is.
19:21:49 <Tritonio> I will tell you when I find out what it is.
19:21:53 <Tritonio> I might have found it actually.
19:21:53 <Tritonio> I might have found it actually.
19:21:57 <ZachThibeau> howdy John
19:21:57 <ZachThibeau> howdy John
19:22:27 <Tritonio> There was a foreign dll causing the crash. It wasn't a virus dll though... It was probably a dll from a P2P filesystem...
19:22:27 <Tritonio> There was a foreign dll causing the crash. It wasn't a virus dll though... It was probably a dll from a P2P filesystem...
19:22:38 <Tritonio> i uninstalled it and I still haven't seen a crash
19:22:38 <Tritonio> i uninstalled it and I still haven't seen a crash
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22:40:11 <AlleyKat> uhm, pa.c frontpage seems to have developed issues?
22:40:11 <AlleyKat> uhm, pa.c frontpage seems to have developed issues?
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22:41:41 <gluxon> AlleyKat: I don't notice anything wrong with it, other than the "Today
22:41:41 <gluxon> AlleyKat: I don't notice anything wrong with it, other than the "Today
22:41:50 <gluxon> 's Popular Content"
22:41:50 <gluxon> 's Popular Content"
22:42:05 <gluxon> Why does the apostrophe have to be so close to the enter button? :P
22:42:05 <gluxon> Why does the apostrophe have to be so close to the enter button? :P
22:43:05 <AlleyKat> strange... works now, failed a few minutes ago with a 404 and a ref. to some address http://portableapps.com/????.rar
22:43:05 <AlleyKat> strange... works now, failed a few minutes ago with a 404 and a ref. to some address http://portableapps.com/????.rar
22:43:24 <AlleyKat> tried several times, ah well :)
22:43:24 <AlleyKat> tried several times, ah well :)
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23:12:14 <AlleyKat> I don't know if anyone can confirm this or it was a one-off, but I updated some apps today (platform 2.0 b5) - HedgeWars, Spybot and TeamViewer. For the first 2 apps it correctly suggested 'Danish' as my lang, but for TeamViewer it for some reason suggested 'Espanol' even thou Danish is present... should I report it, or is there a way to confirm the issue?
23:12:14 <AlleyKat> I don't know if anyone can confirm this or it was a one-off, but I updated some apps today (platform 2.0 b5) - HedgeWars, Spybot and TeamViewer. For the first 2 apps it correctly suggested 'Danish' as my lang, but for TeamViewer it for some reason suggested 'Espanol' even thou Danish is present... should I report it, or is there a way to confirm the issue?
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