IRC Log from 2011-01-19
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00:04:17 <hmmwhatsthisdo> in FF portable, does anyone know how to set actual FF command flags, like -no-remote or -p?
00:04:17 <hmmwhatsthisdo> in FF portable, does anyone know how to set actual FF command flags, like -no-remote or -p?
00:06:20 <hmmwhatsthisdo> appending them to FirefoxPortable.exe doesn't seem to work
00:06:20 <hmmwhatsthisdo> appending them to FirefoxPortable.exe doesn't seem to work
00:09:03 <Tritonio> yes
00:09:03 <Tritonio> yes
00:09:08 <Tritonio> one moment
00:09:08 <Tritonio> one moment
00:09:15 <hmmwhatsthisdo> k
00:09:15 <hmmwhatsthisdo> k
00:09:49 <hmmwhatsthisdo> I just found something that appears to be similar in the readme, but I only want it to be a one-time thing
00:09:49 <hmmwhatsthisdo> I just found something that appears to be similar in the readme, but I only want it to be a one-time thing
00:09:56 <Tritonio> make this file next to the launcher: FirefoxPortable.ini
00:09:56 <Tritonio> make this file next to the launcher: FirefoxPortable.ini
00:10:01 <hmmwhatsthisdo> yes
00:10:01 <hmmwhatsthisdo> yes
00:10:11 <hmmwhatsthisdo> I saw the readme, and the information about that
00:10:11 <hmmwhatsthisdo> I saw the readme, and the information about that
00:10:19 <Tritonio> ah ok
00:10:19 <Tritonio> ah ok
00:10:42 <hmmwhatsthisdo> but I only want it to run in the equivalent mode of -no-remote when I execute it with that option
00:10:42 <hmmwhatsthisdo> but I only want it to run in the equivalent mode of -no-remote when I execute it with that option
00:10:48 <Tritonio> i don't know if you can pass a parameter just once. you could just delete the ini after you are done.
00:10:48 <Tritonio> i don't know if you can pass a parameter just once. you could just delete the ini after you are done.
00:11:02 <hmmwhatsthisdo> e.g when it's plugged into my home comp, and I'm actively syncing
00:11:02 <hmmwhatsthisdo> e.g when it's plugged into my home comp, and I'm actively syncing
00:11:04 <hmmwhatsthisdo> oh
00:11:04 <hmmwhatsthisdo> oh
00:11:07 <hmmwhatsthisdo> mmkay then
00:11:07 <hmmwhatsthisdo> mmkay then
00:11:16 <Tritonio> ah you want to switch between two launch parameter sets.
00:11:16 <Tritonio> ah you want to switch between two launch parameter sets.
00:11:19 <hmmwhatsthisdo> ^^
00:11:19 <hmmwhatsthisdo> ^^
00:11:28 <hmmwhatsthisdo> w/o needing two different INIs, etc.
00:11:28 <hmmwhatsthisdo> w/o needing two different INIs, etc.
00:11:31 <Tritonio> i don't think you can do it. i might be wrong though.
00:11:31 <Tritonio> i don't think you can do it. i might be wrong though.
00:11:38 <Tritonio> try making a script.
00:11:38 <Tritonio> try making a script.
00:11:50 <hmmwhatsthisdo> wasn't sure if there was an extra parameter to add, like "-legacyFFparameter"
00:11:50 <hmmwhatsthisdo> wasn't sure if there was an extra parameter to add, like "-legacyFFparameter"
00:11:57 <Tritonio> if you are familiar with autoi3 or batch files you can do it in 10 minutes.
00:11:57 <Tritonio> if you are familiar with autoi3 or batch files you can do it in 10 minutes.
00:12:21 <hmmwhatsthisdo> I'm familiar with the latter, I could prolly script it if I felt so inclined
00:12:21 <hmmwhatsthisdo> I'm familiar with the latter, I could prolly script it if I felt so inclined
00:12:55 <Tritonio> just make the ini but name it differently.
00:12:55 <Tritonio> just make the ini but name it differently.
00:13:12 <Tritonio> and when you run the script rename it properly
00:13:12 <Tritonio> and when you run the script rename it properly
00:13:23 <hmmwhatsthisdo> I thought about doing that, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't re-inventing the wheel or sometihng
00:13:23 <hmmwhatsthisdo> I thought about doing that, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't re-inventing the wheel or sometihng
00:13:26 <hmmwhatsthisdo> *something
00:13:26 <hmmwhatsthisdo> *something
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00:13:34 <Tritonio> and run the launcher... :-)
00:13:34 <Tritonio> and run the launcher... :-)
00:14:16 <Tritonio> btw what is no remote? funny thing is that i am also using that parameter and I noticed the FF portable doesn't handle url links from other apps now.
00:14:16 <Tritonio> btw what is no remote? funny thing is that i am also using that parameter and I noticed the FF portable doesn't handle url links from other apps now.
00:14:42 <hmmwhatsthisdo> it effectively "cuts off" communication between other apps
00:14:42 <hmmwhatsthisdo> it effectively "cuts off" communication between other apps
00:14:53 <hmmwhatsthisdo> meaning, you can run multiple instances of FF at the same time
00:14:53 <hmmwhatsthisdo> meaning, you can run multiple instances of FF at the same time
00:15:09 <hmmwhatsthisdo> at the cost of them not accepting communication from other apps
00:15:09 <hmmwhatsthisdo> at the cost of them not accepting communication from other apps
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00:16:23 <hmmwhatsthisdo> it's quite useful when doing things that require both browsers open at the same time, like copying settings
00:16:23 <hmmwhatsthisdo> it's quite useful when doing things that require both browsers open at the same time, like copying settings
00:17:09 <Tritonio> i'm using it so that I can run it at the same time with another portable firefox that I use with TOR...
00:17:09 <Tritonio> i'm using it so that I can run it at the same time with another portable firefox that I use with TOR...
00:17:27 <hmmwhatsthisdo> ^^
00:17:27 <hmmwhatsthisdo> ^^
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00:17:45 * hmmwhatsthisdo has FF3.6, FF4, and FF3.6Portable running in unison to set up sync
00:17:45 * hmmwhatsthisdo has FF3.6, FF4, and FF3.6Portable running in unison to set up sync
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00:18:14 <Tritonio> i haven't used 4 yet... :-)
00:18:15 <Tritonio> i haven't used 4 yet... :-)
00:18:16 <Tritonio> any big diffs?
00:18:16 <Tritonio> any big diffs?
00:18:18 <hmmwhatsthisdo> yeh
00:18:18 <hmmwhatsthisdo> yeh
00:18:24 <hmmwhatsthisdo> UI was almost completely redone
00:18:24 <hmmwhatsthisdo> UI was almost completely redone
00:18:36 <hmmwhatsthisdo> FF3.6 doesn't support J-PAKE authentication, so you need to either write down or physically be *at* the two instances at the same time
00:18:36 <hmmwhatsthisdo> FF3.6 doesn't support J-PAKE authentication, so you need to either write down or physically be *at* the two instances at the same time
00:18:41 <hmmwhatsthisdo> oh
00:18:41 <hmmwhatsthisdo> oh
00:18:46 <hmmwhatsthisdo> and it integrates FF Sync
00:18:46 <hmmwhatsthisdo> and it integrates FF Sync
00:18:53 <hmmwhatsthisdo> and a bunch of other new projects
00:18:53 <hmmwhatsthisdo> and a bunch of other new projects
00:19:14 <Tritonio> J-PAKE?
00:19:14 <Tritonio> J-PAKE?
00:19:36 <hmmwhatsthisdo> it's a system FF Sync uses to connect devices
00:19:36 <hmmwhatsthisdo> it's a system FF Sync uses to connect devices
00:19:57 <hmmwhatsthisdo> they almost completely phased out the account name, password, and Sync Key
00:19:57 <hmmwhatsthisdo> they almost completely phased out the account name, password, and Sync Key
00:20:15 <hmmwhatsthisdo> you set up an account on one machine and a password
00:20:15 <hmmwhatsthisdo> you set up an account on one machine and a password
00:20:34 <hmmwhatsthisdo> on machine/phone 2, you tell it you wish to activate sync
00:20:34 <hmmwhatsthisdo> on machine/phone 2, you tell it you wish to activate sync
00:21:02 <hmmwhatsthisdo> it spits out 3 groups of 4 alphanumeric case-sensitive characters
00:21:02 <hmmwhatsthisdo> it spits out 3 groups of 4 alphanumeric case-sensitive characters
00:21:15 <hmmwhatsthisdo> and you input those into machine 1, and it does the rest
00:21:15 <hmmwhatsthisdo> and you input those into machine 1, and it does the rest
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04:04:14 <GizmoBot> OliverK is a programmer, podcaster, html spelunker and pretty handy with a screwdriver. In short, not to be trifled with.
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08:27:53 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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08:41:20 <JohnTHaller> How is everybody tonight?
08:41:20 <JohnTHaller> How is everybody tonight?
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13:24:32 <Kiriko> good morning every one! :)
13:24:32 <Kiriko> good morning every one! :)
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15:53:04 <CruelC|Werepig> 0hai
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16:15:48 <pa_1277> hello
16:15:48 <pa_1277> hello
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17:15:06 <Kiriko> help?
17:15:06 <Kiriko> help?
17:15:11 <Kiriko> !
17:15:11 <Kiriko> !
17:16:47 <Kiriko> im working on a personal project to make PDFZilla portable but im having trobble with regitering this file, richtx32.OCX
17:16:47 <Kiriko> im working on a personal project to make PDFZilla portable but im having trobble with regitering this file, richtx32.OCX
17:21:47 <Kiriko> ??
17:21:47 <Kiriko> ??
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17:22:43 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Kiriko: I can't help you, sorry. :(
17:22:43 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Kiriko: I can't help you, sorry. :(
17:24:30 <Kiriko> just in case I got the program from Free Give Away of The day, This is not a pirated program or anything like that, this is for my own personal use. Just incase you are wondering :)
17:24:30 <Kiriko> just in case I got the program from Free Give Away of The day, This is not a pirated program or anything like that, this is for my own personal use. Just incase you are wondering :)
17:26:31 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I know that PAL 2.1 can register and unregister DLL and OCX files.
17:26:31 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I know that PAL 2.1 can register and unregister DLL and OCX files.
17:26:54 <Kiriko> yea i did try that but it wont work
17:26:54 <Kiriko> yea i did try that but it wont work
17:27:12 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I have no idea of how that can be done (I don't use PAL as I don't develop software).
17:27:12 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I have no idea of how that can be done (I don't use PAL as I don't develop software).
17:27:27 <Kiriko> ah ok
17:27:27 <Kiriko> ah ok
17:27:30 <Kiriko> any one els
17:27:30 <Kiriko> any one els
17:28:25 <Kiriko> the funny thing is that I used this same code on a nother of my apps and it works
17:28:25 <Kiriko> the funny thing is that I used this same code on a nother of my apps and it works
17:28:59 <Kiriko> All I did was to copy and change the name of the program and the dll file
17:28:59 <Kiriko> All I did was to copy and change the name of the program and the dll file
17:30:38 <Kiriko> I just checked the program that I copyid the code from and it works :(
17:30:38 <Kiriko> I just checked the program that I copyid the code from and it works :(
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17:38:09 <Kiriko> ok so here is my code for this http://tinypaste.com/f837a3
17:38:09 <Kiriko> ok so here is my code for this http://tinypaste.com/f837a3
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19:51:08 <pa_1739> hello. I would like to change the username on my account. is that possible?
19:51:08 <pa_1739> hello. I would like to change the username on my account. is that possible?
19:53:00 <pa_1739> hello...
19:53:00 <pa_1739> hello...
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19:55:36 <TPFC-SYSTEM> pa_1739: No idea, sorry. :(
19:55:36 <TPFC-SYSTEM> pa_1739: No idea, sorry. :(
19:55:49 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1739: you need to use the contact page
19:55:49 <Gizmokid2005> pa_1739: you need to use the contact page
19:55:55 <Gizmokid2005> only the admin can change it for you
19:55:55 <Gizmokid2005> only the admin can change it for you
19:56:04 <pa_1739> thank you!
19:56:04 <pa_1739> thank you!
19:56:08 <Gizmokid2005> you're welcome pa_1739
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20:19:10 <m-p{3}> Hi
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22:24:10 <Simeon> hi all
22:24:17 <JohnTHaller> hola
22:24:23 <Simeon> hi JOhn
22:24:42 <Simeon> how is everything?
22:24:44 <JohnTHaller> Simeon: I started working on the Drupal 7 upgrade, now that it's out. We should be able to start translations as soon as I finish it.
22:25:59 <JohnTHaller> I think they fixed the issues around URL aliases and localization. And I think all our extensions have been updated (or are at least a beta). Gotta ensure the field sync extension properly syncs everything on 7 (so things like version, download size, OS, license, etc are synced between English, German, etc)
22:26:06 <Simeon> sounds like a lot of behind-the-scenes work... I dont know how much time I can invest but it seems to me that we have more german users posting in the forums lately.
22:27:16 <Simeon> so we only have to enter it once . NICE! ;)
22:27:39 <JohnTHaller> Exactly. Reduce the burden on everyone. It's part of the new app directory work I'm doing. I got it about 75% done but wanted to wait on v7 because the field setup we use is moved from an extension to Drupal core and I didn't want to lose any of it.
22:27:58 <Simeon> ok
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22:29:41 <Simeon> does drupal 7 have a special translator thing where you can allow people to translate/edit pages but not mess with too much?
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22:34:03 <JohnTHaller> ... and we're back
22:34:26 <Simeon> then I or Marko doesnt have to add everything in for them.
22:34:36 <Simeon> what was that?
22:34:50 <JohnTHaller> Net split. It happens when the servers lose connection with each other.
22:35:00 <Simeon> ah
22:35:15 <Simeon> happenes a lot lately.the logs have a lot of double entries
22:35:34 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, when I add a new app now, I'm working on having the other pages auto-generate. Everything will be translated but the description and tagline.
22:35:51 <ZachThibeau> howdy John
22:36:03 <JohnTHaller> Everything in Download Details, etc will be translated just one time for all apps and then done on the fly.
22:36:06 <JohnTHaller> hi ZachThibeau
22:36:17 <Simeon> didnt we stop translating taglines for a reason or was that just Mozilla?
22:36:26 <Simeon> hi Zach
22:36:38 <JohnTHaller> We may ditch them, actually. We'll see.
22:36:50 <Simeon> Mozilla? ;)
22:37:25 <Simeon> @Zach: how is your app testing going? ;) Mine basically stopped. sadly.
22:37:34 <JohnTHaller> Taglines :-P
22:37:52 <Simeon> ah :-D
22:38:45 <ZachThibeau> Simeon: just been busy myself, I'm in the middle of preparing to move into my new apartment
22:39:45 <Simeon> i thought it was something like that. Not naving done much myself, I wasnt demanding more engagement or something.
22:50:36 <Simeon> gnight all
22:51:07 <sar3th> good night Simeon :)
22:51:15 <ZachThibeau> night
22:51:17 <Simeon> hi sar3th
22:51:19 <Simeon> :)
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23:10:42 <gluxon> JohnTHaller: AkelPad Portable's ready -> http://portableapps.com/node/23621
23:11:36 <JohnTHaller> Got it. I'll check it over now.
23:12:29 <JohnTHaller> What's .fr-4UqUl4 in AppInfo?
23:13:50 <gluxon> I have no idea. I think it was a temp directory left by my text editor.
23:14:06 <gluxon> I didn't have hidden files on, so I didn't catch it until you just mentioned it now.
23:15:27 <JohnTHaller> Ok, I'll remove those. I'm cleaning up appinfo.ini (don't need the EULA, Java /NET, etc). And installer.ini (don't need anything but DirectoriesToPreserve). No need for optional files (only saves 400k)
23:22:33 <JohnTHaller> Did you UPX it already?
23:24:14 <gluxon> Yeah.
23:24:31 <gluxon> 2.0.2 with NRV2E.
23:24:34 <JohnTHaller> cool
23:25:14 <JohnTHaller> Found a decent 128px icon that works from Nuvola (also GPLed)
23:26:59 <JohnTHaller> This work for ya? http://portableapps.com/temp/AkelPadPortable.jpg
23:27:32 <gluxon> Sweet :)
23:30:42 <JohnTHaller> I set DirectoriesMoveOK on, too, so it won't warn if the user moves directories.
23:33:27 <gluxon> One thing, the author of AkelPad updates the program extremely frequently. Maybe 3 times a week. How often will we be keeping up with that?
23:34:11 <JohnTHaller> It's on you for the update packaging... but I'd recommend maybe once a week unless it's a big fix.
23:34:26 <JohnTHaller> I'm adding in a default INI file so it uses that by default instead of the registry.
23:35:15 <gluxon> It writes to the registry regardless of what setting you have.
23:35:33 <JohnTHaller> Really? When I reopen it, it is remembering to use the INI it seems
23:36:02 <gluxon> I originally had it set to have it write to INI by default, and left out registry backup functions.
23:36:17 <JohnTHaller> Oh, we'll keep the registry in, too, as it may create the key anyway.
23:36:18 <gluxon> Well, last time I checked was maybe during the 4.1.x versions.
23:36:26 <gluxon> Might have been changed now though.
23:36:29 <JohnTHaller> But I'll just set it up to use the INI by default.
23:37:00 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, if you set it to use the INI, it doesn't do the registry now.
23:37:12 <JohnTHaller> But I'll leave it in the launcher just in case a user changes it accidentally.
23:37:15 <gluxon> Yeah, it still does.
23:37:45 <JohnTHaller> I've run it a few times and it hasn't produced the .reg key (because it's blank and there's nothing for it to save).
23:38:13 <gluxon> Oh wait, nevermind. That's PAL restoring the registry file. Sorry.
23:38:20 <JohnTHaller> :)
23:38:22 <JohnTHaller> No worries
23:38:31 <JohnTHaller> I do stuff like that all the time.
23:39:25 <JohnTHaller> I PMed you a link to final for a quick review.
23:39:47 <JohnTHaller> Give it a quick lookover and let me know if you're happy with it.,
23:41:13 <gluxon> Looks good :)
23:41:39 <JohnTHaller> Ok, source and app are on SF mirroring, building the page now.
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23:46:49 <JohnTHaller> Still want to go by "Brandon C."?
23:47:21 <gluxon> Yeah :)
23:47:57 <gluxon> Brandon Cheng is fine if you prefer that.
23:48:05 <gluxon> Either works.
23:48:22 <JohnTHaller> It's up to you. You may want your full name if you want to use it for 'experience' on a CV or something later
23:49:39 <gluxon> Hm... everyone else seems to be going with full names. -> http://portableapps.com/about/team
23:49:43 <gluxon> Brandon Cheng's fine :)
23:55:37 <JohnTHaller> Ok, look alright? http://portableapps.com/apps/development/akelpad_portable
23:56:49 <gluxon> Perfect :)