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00:34:46 <vf2nsr> looks great john
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01:41:22 <Thasmo> Hey ho ChrisMorgan?
01:44:06 <ChrisMorgan> Thasmo: sorry, I'm just going to do Bible readings with my family, and then lunch, feel free to say anything you want to and I'll get back to it afterwards.
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03:06:31 <TimTheEmo> So, I recently installed this Chrome Portable, says under the installation page that password portability is offered as an advanced option but you have to view the help.html. Where is this???
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03:26:24 <taneth111> Hello all
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05:54:30 <Kiriko> hey John dose this (jPortable 6 Update 23) that the Lisence problem with Oracle have been fixed?
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05:56:05 <JohnTHaller> Java Portable has been changed to jPortable and the logos altered to custom ones according to Oracle's guidance from their managing counsel on trademarks.
05:56:20 <Kiriko> oh ok
05:56:29 <JohnTHaller> OpenOffice.org Portable is still being discussed.
05:56:59 <Kiriko> so dose this mean that some of the other Java portable apps will be ready to go soon?
05:57:09 <Kiriko> I see.
05:58:02 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: I still can't understand why it's a 14MB download rather than a few hundred KB.
05:58:25 <JohnTHaller> Soon, yes. I want to get the updater updating jPortable and the platform detecting when an app needs it and installing it first.
05:58:55 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: Some files are generated by the Java installer at install-time and do not exist in their package. Those must be included manually in our package.
05:59:07 <ChrisMorgan> Ah, I see
05:59:12 <ChrisMorgan> I need to check through that STDU Viewer again. Seems to me a good candidate for release next week.
05:59:20 <JohnTHaller> Ok, cool.
05:59:22 <ChrisMorgan> Bye, I'm off now.
05:59:30 <JohnTHaller> I'm hoping to get permission to bundle Java directly soon.
05:59:37 <Kiriko> bye
05:59:41 <JohnTHaller> Alright, have a good one
06:00:04 <Kiriko> I hope so too cause online istallers are some what of a pain
06:01:02 <JohnTHaller> I think they're pretty easy for most users. And will be easier with the next updater release.
06:01:49 <Kiriko> yea they are easy is just that they are a pain when you are doing offline installation..
06:02:56 <JohnTHaller> Not much call for it... just install everything when you're online :) Next updater actually downloads both the portable app installer and the app installer the portable app installer needs (so you know what's going on)
06:03:17 <Kiriko> thats cool
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06:03:52 <JohnTHaller> And you can do that offline if you save the pieces, too. I gotta remember to add that switch in.
06:05:06 <Kiriko> yes please do that, is it posible to have it change the temporary download location for advanced users?
06:06:42 <Kiriko> come to think of it is best not to that
06:07:07 <JohnTHaller> It will be possible to tell the updater to save your app installers if you want them. An advanced option for advanced users.
06:08:14 <Kiriko> it sounds good in the way you have it pland out :)
06:09:23 <Kiriko> I like it. The only reason I ask is because I have a lot of family that uses PoratbleApps, and I do a lot of offline installations
06:10:09 <JohnTHaller> You can always copy from one drive to another, too. As long as you skip the Data directory.
06:11:39 <Kiriko> yea I do that with the online installer one, but for the most part I have a seperated drive dedicated for that with the most usefull programs that they would need for school and work.
06:13:17 <Kiriko> that is because im the only one in my family that knows more about computer and all. I am basicly im the geek of the family :P
06:16:39 <Mir> john!
06:16:45 <Mir> yes your are still here
06:16:49 <JohnTHaller> Hello
06:16:56 <Mir> there is a bug in VLC
06:17:13 <Mir> the GOOM visualisation crashes VLC 1.1.5
06:17:26 <Mir> portable and non portable
06:17:37 <JohnTHaller> That would need reporting to the VLC devs themselves.
06:17:38 <Kiriko> oh that sucks
06:17:46 <Mir> well i did
06:17:47 <Mir> :/
06:17:52 <Mir> no response
06:18:05 <JohnTHaller> how did you report it? in the bugtracker?
06:18:08 <Mir> eventhough i wrote to them as my job required
06:18:14 <Mir> email
06:18:35 <JohnTHaller> http://trac.videolan.org/vlc/
06:18:38 <Mir> that bug is why the CTO is making us at work stick with .8.3
06:18:42 <JohnTHaller> Email is generally not the way to report bugs
06:18:42 <Mir> D:
06:19:10 <JohnTHaller> CTO of what? Why would you need an audio visualizer at work
06:19:29 <Mir> a bug is a bug
06:20:00 <Mir> and at the federal government if a program has even something minor and useless like a visualisation its not allowed
06:20:01 <Mir> D:
06:20:23 <Mir> lemme tell you VLC 0.8.3 sucks compaired with 1.1.5
06:20:29 <JohnTHaller> There are bugs in all the software they use. It's just that companies like MS keep their bug databases secret.
06:20:45 <Kiriko> that is so true
06:20:58 <Mir> also i mentioned the bug to the support staff here on freenode
06:21:18 <Mir> i just wanted to let you know about it
06:21:25 <Mir> :)
06:21:43 <JohnTHaller> Nothing we can do about it as we don't even build VLC ourselves, let alone fix bugs in it.
06:23:14 <Mir> other bugs inclued channel selection not working
06:23:31 <Mir> so you cant select left or right channels only
06:23:35 <JohnTHaller> Again, nothing related to us, so we don't track or handle it.
06:24:16 <Mir> :/
06:24:36 <JohnTHaller> Nothing we can really do about it. But I'd suggest checking that link I sent.
06:24:50 <Mir> yea
06:25:03 <JohnTHaller> Create an account, login, search to see if the bugs are already reported and what their status is. If you don't see em, create a new bug report. Give all the requested details.
06:25:08 <Mir> like usual i get a error when writing a bug report
06:25:15 <JohnTHaller> Bug reports via email are generally outright deleted.
06:26:42 <JohnTHaller> An error, on their bugtrac site?
06:26:57 <Mir> yup
06:27:03 <Mir> i give up
06:27:06 <Mir> :/
06:27:20 <Mir> i will let my superiors deal with it
06:27:30 <JohnTHaller> Odd. You only try today? Could be a temp bug. If you post about that in their forums, they should fix it.
06:28:31 <Mir> will do
06:28:51 <Mir> just thought i should warn you in case someone posts about it on the forum :)
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06:29:46 <JohnTHaller> I appreciate the thought, but it's doubtful. There are tens of thousands of bugs in the apps we package. Hardly ever see one posted in our own forums.
06:31:51 <Kiriko> I notice that too!
06:32:14 <JohnTHaller> Most users understand the difference between us and the app developer, which is nice :)
06:32:23 <JohnTHaller> Some don't, and we point them the right way.
06:33:28 <Mir> i thought we compiled out own version of VLC
06:33:40 <Mir> and thus could take out the broken components
06:33:45 <JohnTHaller> Nope. We don't do that for really any apps. Nor would we want to.
06:33:46 <Mir> but i could be wronf
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06:37:50 <Kiriko> by us doing that we could just make the app work even less, thats why is just best to do an install with an oficial updated release.
06:53:32 <Kiriko> Well guys Im off to bed, the meds are kicking in so good night. :)
06:53:36 <JohnTHaller> gnight
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09:04:33 <CruelC> 0hai
09:04:51 <CruelC> was my openlierox submitted by this channel reviewed?
09:05:47 <CruelC> I uploaded a copy of OpenLieroX with pacwrapper to Yandex, gave you the link
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14:18:07 <CruelC> 0hai
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15:15:10 <CruelC> was my submission checked?
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15:26:16 <Kiriko> Good morning everyone! :)
15:27:47 <CruelC> hi.
15:27:58 <CruelC> 18:27 here
15:28:16 <CruelC> MSK (+3 GMT)
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15:30:54 <CruelC> was my entry checked?
15:31:10 <CruelC> openlierox submitted some time ago by uploading to Yandex
15:32:26 <CruelC> :(
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16:19:33 <Kiriko> Hey can one of the moderaders in PA.c websit help me fix dev page http://portableapps.com/node/23570 I don't know what is wrong wih it?
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16:34:09 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
16:37:49 <CruelC> ZachThibeau: Was OpenLieroX checked?
16:38:07 <ZachThibeau> I'm sorry what?
16:38:13 <Kiriko> Hi ZachThibeau, can you help me fix my dev page http://portableapps.com/node/23570
16:38:51 <ZachThibeau> sorry I really can't help atm, I'm only on for a few minutes and then I'm off to go clear some snow
16:39:31 <Kiriko> ah ok
16:40:34 <CruelC> erhttp://narod.ru/disk/3741844001/OpenLieroXPortable.rar.html
16:40:39 <ZachThibeau> got pelted with a huge snow storm last night
16:41:21 <Kiriko> oh man that sucks we onely got 3in for snow the other
16:42:03 <CruelC> so, ZachThibeau, was OpenLieroX checked?
16:42:13 <Kiriko> thank God it was not a nother 2' 1/2" like last time
16:43:11 <CruelC> one will need to rip the icon and recompile with right icon, then make a paf
16:43:32 <ZachThibeau> CruelC: to be honest I don't know, I haven't heard of it yet, nor (and I'm sorry for saying this) but atm I don't care to check for it until I'm done with the mess and hopefully when I move to my new apartment
16:44:33 <ZachThibeau> atm I don't have much free time left until I do move
16:44:50 <CruelC> OpenLieroX was requested some time ago. I submitted a pre-alpha of the wrapper.
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16:47:55 <TPFC-SYSTEM> :D
16:51:02 <ZachThibeau> I love to move but I hate packing >_<
16:51:27 <Kiriko> oh im with you
16:52:10 <Kiriko> ZachThibeau: where are you from?
16:52:30 <ZachThibeau> I'm currently living in New Brunswick in the country of Canada
16:52:54 <ZachThibeau> moving to my first apartment in my home province of Nova Scotia
16:53:10 <Kiriko> that explains all the snow :P
16:53:44 <ZachThibeau> actually where I live we hardly get any snow not like this anyways
16:54:40 <ZachThibeau> it's funny to watch americans come up to canada during the summer with their snow gear and asking where the snow is :P
16:54:44 <Kiriko> I remember when I first moved, My first few night was like man i realy have my own place and dose get to you for the first few weeck
16:54:57 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Here in Helsinki the whole city is in trouble with all the snow...
16:54:57 <Kiriko> lmao
16:56:40 <Kiriko> I have never been to canada, it would be graet to visit thou, I have only lived in the US and Puerto Rico.
16:58:08 <ZachThibeau> a friend of mine lived in Puerto Rico for about 5 years, his father was a missionary down there
17:00:35 <Kiriko> I my self prefer to live here in the US cause I don't like the heat 8-)
17:01:12 <Kiriko> and then again I was born in the US
17:01:52 <ZachThibeau> ohh I know the feeling, my body has it's own heat supply thats higher that most in my family and while they are cold during summer, I suffer and on occassion have a heat stroke here and there which isn't fun
17:04:12 <Kiriko> I can go all winter long without terning the heater on what sos ever, but when I go down to my moms her appartment is like an oven and you will see me go to the window and open it just for a few minutes to cool down cause i cant take it
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17:05:52 <ZachThibeau> anyways I got to run
17:05:59 <Kiriko> ok man take care
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17:16:53 <Kiriko> Hey ZachThibeau please dont do this when taking all the snow out http://portableapps.com/node/23570
17:17:10 <Kiriko> srry wrong link http://gizmodo.com/5739906/lazy-man-blew-up-snow-with-homemade-bombs-to-avoid-shoveling
17:33:10 <Kiriko> well guys im out for latter :)
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20:56:12 <pa_4457> hi @all :)
20:56:17 <pa_4457> short question :)
20:56:55 <pa_4457> how can I update my usb portableapps tools, just install the new package over the old one?
20:58:25 <benedikt93> pa_4457, at least for those in PA format (from portableapps.com), yes
20:58:35 <benedikt93> it will preserve your data
20:59:25 <benedikt93> to update a bunch of apps at once, you could use the updater included in the latest platform beta (2.0b5)
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21:08:32 <pa_4457> ok I will check that out
21:08:45 <pa_4457> thank you for your quick response!
21:15:04 <benedikt93> you're welcome :)
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22:50:25 <Thasmo> Hey ho JohnTHaller, any news on the file extension association feature for the pa.c platform?
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22:55:26 <JohnTHaller> Soon.
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22:57:12 <Thasmo> JohnTHaller =o)
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23:02:31 <JohnTHaller> Today's new app has been posted: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-01-22_-_feed_notifier_portable_2.4_released
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23:31:15 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: PM?
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23:54:19 <pa_5670> John T. Haller
23:54:37 <JohnTHaller> hi
23:55:17 <pa_5670> I'm trying to install jPortable to my pendrive but I keep getting Request Error 450 when it gets to the part to download Java
23:56:01 <JohnTHaller> 450 Blocked by Windows Parental Controls
23:56:42 <JohnTHaller> At the PC level, you are being prevented from downloading Jaba
23:56:43 <JohnTHaller> Java
23:57:08 <pa_5670> ahh......thanks.....yeah I was a bad boy with certain adult sites....though why WPC would block Java I don't know
23:57:26 <pa_5670> thanks for your time
23:57:30 <JohnTHaller> Sure thing
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23:58:01 <JohnTHaller> Gizmokid2005 ?