IRC Log from 2011-01-26

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00:36:02 <pa_8421> hello
00:36:08 <Kiriko> hi
00:36:21 <pa_8421> i need help with notepad++
00:36:48 <Kiriko> how can we help you?
00:37:14 <pa_8421> under "run" there is supposed to be options to "launch firefox" or "launch explorer"
00:37:40 <pa_8421> there was when i installed it but after I closed & opened the program it went away
00:39:02 <Kiriko> from what i can see it gives you the option to shoos a program
00:39:21 <pa_8421> mine just has "run" and then "run"
00:40:29 <vf2nsr> I have the launch in options on my NP+
00:40:49 <Kiriko> are you using the portable version
00:40:51 <Kiriko> ?
00:40:58 <pa_8421> yes
00:42:25 <Kiriko> ok when you pres run you will get a box
00:43:02 <Kiriko> it has a dropdown menu and next to it you will see 3 dots click it
00:43:29 <pa_8421> k
00:43:58 <Kiriko> now you can look for the programs you prefer to use
00:44:14 <pa_8421> did that already
00:44:23 <pa_8421> tried to open firefox and it didnt do anything
00:46:03 <Kiriko> it works for me
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00:51:28 <Kiriko> try to launch another program
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03:22:00 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is the developer of Armagetron Portable and Scribus Portable
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04:26:58 <Kiriko> hey i just notice that on the about press page the year is wrong fon the most recent section it has the wrong year for firefox private browsing, it says January 7, 2010 and it should be January 7, 2011
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04:58:03 <JacobMastel> ChrisMorgan: Is there a way for PAL to detect a screen resoultion size?
04:58:15 <ChrisMorgan> JacobMastel: not without custom code
04:59:20 <JacobMastel> Okay, I was looking at the devtest for Scortched 3D and was thinking that would be handy. That way when people like to set it to full screen it doesn't go wako on different resoultions... I'll bring it in the thread...
05:01:10 <ChrisMorgan> One app had screen resolution detection.
05:01:21 <JacobMastel> Do you know which?
05:01:32 <ChrisMorgan> It was a game that we had released some time ago.
05:03:40 <ChrisMorgan> Unless it wasn't actually released... can't remember properly.
05:03:55 <ChrisMorgan> http://nsis.sourceforge.net/Get_User%27s_screen_resolution
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05:09:53 <JacobMastel> Thanks for the link
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05:15:09 <GizmoBot> OliverK is a programmer, podcaster, html spelunker and pretty handy with a screwdriver. In short, not to be trifled with.
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05:26:28 <JohnTHaller> Today's new app has been released: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-01-25_-_juice_portable_2.2.2.1_released
05:30:17 <JacobMastel> Nice,
05:33:01 <JohnTHaller> took a fair bit of work to get it usable, even starting with the version they only released on SF files (unannounced) and then the patch they only stuck there.
05:33:34 <JacobMastel> lol.
05:33:38 <JacobMastel> At least it isn't a dead project.
05:33:46 <JohnTHaller> It is. Last updated in 2006
05:33:54 <JacobMastel> Oh nvm then :P
05:34:36 <JohnTHaller> It does still work and decently, though. And there aren't a ton of open source podcast clients
05:37:53 <JacobMastel> I'm not aware of any others personally...
05:38:33 <JohnTHaller> me neither
05:41:17 <JacobMastel> I'm almost done with Stickies new skin.
05:56:45 <OliverK> gpodder
05:56:57 <OliverK> actively developed, I think
05:57:00 <OliverK> cross platform
05:57:08 <OliverK> written in python with GTK
05:57:33 <JohnTHaller> ah good call
05:57:58 <OliverK> its portable as it, I think but I haven't tested it
05:58:07 <JohnTHaller> I pulled Juice through because it was on 'the list': http://portableapps.com/node/11772
05:58:24 <OliverK> There's a development test in the forums
05:58:37 <OliverK> I didn't say you were wrong to
05:58:44 <OliverK> just, telling you about another
05:59:03 <JohnTHaller> I don't see a gpodder dev test. link?
05:59:39 <JohnTHaller> Ideally, we'll have em both. And any other worthwhile ones we find.
05:59:44 <OliverK> I'll have to look :/
06:00:05 <JohnTHaller> only 3 links. two requests and one asking how to update python scripts: http://portableapps.com/search/node/gpodder
06:00:13 <OliverK> I guess it wasn't a dev test :/
06:00:19 <OliverK> yeah, that was it
06:00:26 <OliverK> sorry
06:01:20 <JohnTHaller> No worries. Most of the old ones I'm resurrecting I've had to do from scratch anyway due to app changes, missing downloads or incomplete launchers. A few I've been able to do as-is or with just some minor code updates (like XMPlay)
06:02:45 <JohnTHaller> gpodder is actively deved. They could probably use some help doing their Windows theming, though.
06:04:49 <JohnTHaller> And it works just fine and is partially portable already. Seems like a solid candidate (and easier than Juice)
06:25:42 <Kiriko> gpodder depends on Python a lot!
06:26:41 <Kiriko> but if it is good for you it is good for me :)
06:27:24 <JohnTHaller> I'm happy for someone else to do it. Shouldn't need any python mods. Launcher will have some in comomon with the Juice launcher in terms of some default directories and such
06:29:04 <Kiriko> I would do it but that is way to advanced for me I am still working my way up there :P
06:31:15 <JohnTHaller> Alright, Firefox 4 Beta 10 is out. SO I am off to bed.
06:31:20 <JohnTHaller> Gnight all
06:32:05 <OliverK> night
06:32:28 <Kiriko> night
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07:20:03 <Kiriko> Well im out night all
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08:06:13 <udzguru> hi there guys
08:08:30 <udzguru> i'm using portableapps platform 2 beta5 and just tried to update my portable firefox 4 beta 9 to the new release portable firefox 4 beta 10. i always get "Transfer Error..."
08:08:55 <udzguru> could it be that the file is not yet fully distributed to all the sourceforge mirrors?
08:09:08 <udzguru> or what could be the reason of this error?
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13:52:07 <Mark___> What is wrong with http://sourceforge.net Itried 8 times to download and it fails 8 times
13:52:24 <Mark___> What is wrong with http://sourceforge.net I tried 8 times to download and it fails 8 times
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14:44:25 <pa_8244> I just want to report a broken link for firefox 4 beta 10 ?
14:45:09 <marlop> Gizmokid2005, MaienM, ^^
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14:53:22 <greg__> mornin all
14:53:36 <greg__> are the @ people moderators?
14:55:03 <Gizmokid2005> greg__: everyone with an @ is just a channel Op
14:55:12 <Gizmokid2005> they may or may not have mod permissions on the site.
14:55:13 <greg__> ah.. ok.
14:56:24 <greg__> hey, i was going thru the software list.. saw teamviewer is stated as "It's released as freeware for personal, education and non-profit use (business use requires a license)."
14:56:36 <Gizmokid2005> right
14:56:50 <greg__> i am getting "business use" messages and the author is saying that it is NOT free for non profit/education use
14:56:55 <rcmaehl> greg__: no people with the green circle are ops
14:57:14 <rcmaehl> people with yellow circles are voiced
14:57:24 <Gizmokid2005> rcmaehl: it's different based on client.
14:57:31 <Gizmokid2005> @ is op, + is voice.
14:57:32 <rcmaehl> Oh
14:57:50 <Gizmokid2005> greg__: what do you mean?
14:58:37 <greg__> well, teamviewer - according to the portapp site is free for education.. i work with special education teachers and students with sped needs
14:58:48 <greg__> (public online school)
14:59:17 <greg__> now i am getting "commercial use suspected" messages.. and teamviewer's corp states that it is not free for education use
14:59:28 <greg__> they want like $880 per teacher
14:59:58 <greg__> so either the author/company lied, or we switch back to UVNC
15:00:52 <greg__> either way, it looks like "http://portableapps.com/news/2010-03-21-_teamviewer_portabe_5.0.8081"; description needs to be changed
15:00:57 <greg__> bait n switch...
15:01:09 <Gizmokid2005> I'm looking greg__. Our page is only updated with what the publisher tells us
15:01:40 <greg__> im not arguing... and appreciate your site.. it rocks
15:02:20 <Gizmokid2005> I know. :) Just saying, we can't change what we're given.
15:03:44 <greg__> if that is what you were given from the manufacturer, then they need to stand behind it. (imo)
15:03:59 <greg__> (they meaning the authors... not you)
15:04:22 <Gizmokid2005> yes, I agree
15:05:12 <greg__> oh well.. figured i would let you guys know about it.. kudo's on the site.. love the apps.
15:06:03 <Gizmokid2005> greg__: do me a favor
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15:06:28 <greg__> yessir
15:06:33 <Gizmokid2005> and post either on the news page for TV or in the forums so that John can see it. He's the one who can make the updates and hash out what happened with Teamviewer
15:06:49 <greg__> ok.. should i post their reply as well?
15:06:58 <greg__> (email)
15:07:02 <Gizmokid2005> greg__: use the page you linked, or even this one: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-01-18-_teamviewer_portable_6.0.10124
15:07:25 <Gizmokid2005> I wouldn't post their email, may get into "confidentiality" crap. If john wants it, you can send it to him directly
15:07:36 <greg__> ok.. will do and thank you.
15:08:14 <Gizmokid2005> thanks for bringing it to our attention greg__
15:08:23 <greg__> quite welcome.. have a great day.
15:08:30 <Gizmokid2005> you as well
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15:21:58 <sar3th> i got that message all the time..it appears when you are a very regular user ;)
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16:42:16 <pa_9055> the front page of the website gets a 404 error, are you aware?
16:44:33 <ZachThibeau> yes and it's just the server load, if you reload it should work again
16:44:36 <marlop> it's working for me
16:44:45 <Gizmokid2005> It's up/down right now
16:44:53 <Gizmokid2005> John seems to be working on something, or there's capacity issues.
16:45:22 <pa_9055> Yeah OK just thought I'd let you know...I still get 404 even with a reload
16:45:43 <benedikt93> seems weird to me as it shows "http://portableapps.com/��ְת��.rar"; as the page I wanted to access
16:46:29 <pa_9055> you must be using firefox it always does those weird question mark things
16:48:09 <pa_9055> ;-)
16:49:04 <benedikt93> yeah, but a redirect to RAR file is what I think to be weird
16:52:06 <pa_9055> yup sounds odd to me ..... but it seems to be fixed for me now!
16:52:39 <pa_9055> so I'll just pop off and get back to womething more boring like work :-(((
16:52:42 <sar3th> i heard someone say that before, the thing with the redirect to the .rar file
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16:57:21 <derekredfern> Hey, I have a question about running portable apps on Linux
16:57:29 <Gizmokid2005> derekredfern: don't ask to ask.
16:59:16 <derekredfern> So I'm trying to run Portable Chromium on Ubuntu from a FAT drive, but you can't set Unix executable permissions on FAT.
16:59:56 <derekredfern> Is there a way to work around this?
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17:07:18 <pa_9055> I am not sure exe files will run on Linux except under wine
17:08:37 <Gizmokid2005> derekredfern: pa_9055 is correct...you shouldn't have issues running it using wine. Our apps aren't linux apps, only windows
17:09:00 <derekredfern> Ah, I see. Thank you.
17:09:52 <derekredfern> I'm using a version that's supposed to be compatible with Linux, though.
17:10:07 <derekredfern> I got it from portablelinuxapps.org and it runs fine from my hard drive.
17:10:55 <pa_9055> Chromium may well run under linux but not the windows version of it open source does not mean it runs under linux
17:11:50 <pa_9055> you will need crossover chromium or something like that for linux
17:12:04 <derekredfern> Ok, thanks
17:13:42 <pa_9055> ..and rather than set the directory to be able to execute you need to set your permissions on the computer for you to ececute...I think
17:14:07 <pa_9055> but being on a windows thing at the moment I cannot chaeck that.
17:15:12 <pa_9055> I often run the linux versionj of the software but and access the files from the pendrive. Like portable Keypass I use kepassx under linux but take the database file from teh pendrive...if htat helps
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17:19:44 <pa_9055> ...but havign thought about it, maybe you need chmod +x myfile
17:19:52 <pa_9055> bye got to go now!
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17:55:24 <pa_8761> Hi!
17:57:34 <pa_8761> I just tryed to make an portable app, but i have seen this site's father have an software infected, here: http://portableappz.proxima.web.tr/tutorial.php
17:57:44 <pa_8761> where can I found Total Uninstaller Portable?
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18:00:39 <TPFC-SYSTEM> It seems there isn't any.
18:00:53 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Some alternatives: http://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?q=uninstaller&m=Search
18:01:41 <TPFC-SYSTEM> BTW, PortableAppZ distributes illegal software (and isn't related to PortableApps.com at all). :@
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18:05:50 <pa_8761> I use Portable Revo Uninstaller, but I want to know now to make portable app like there...
18:08:39 <TPFC-SYSTEM> In any case, there isn't any "Total Uninstaller Portable" that I know of.
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18:09:24 <TPFC-SYSTEM> However, there are some other applications with "System snapshot" feature (for example System Explorer and RegShot).
18:20:24 <Gizmokid2005> pa_8761: TPFC-SYSTEM: you can look into this one: http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/myuninst.html
18:22:17 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Hm... odd. My search (above) didn't reveal MyUninstaller even though it is in TPFC database.
18:22:28 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Yes, MyUninstaller is an alternative as well.
18:26:21 <pa_8761> thanks!
18:26:55 <pa_8761> But how are making, the developers, an portable app for this site?
18:27:08 <pa_8761> like in portableappz.blogspot?
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18:28:23 <TPFC-SYSTEM> PortableApps.com uses a piece of software called PortableApps.com Launcher.
18:28:45 <Gizmokid2005> pa_8761: use this page: http://portableapps.com/development
18:31:21 <pa_8761> thanks!
18:32:49 <TPFC-SYSTEM> You're welcome. :)
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18:54:23 <pa_8761> Why noone put, on this site, an video "how-to-use PortableApps.comLauncherGenerator"?
18:55:11 <pa_8761> I didn't found it...
18:59:13 <TPFC-SYSTEM> PAL manual includes examples: http://portableapps.com/manuals/PortableApps.comLauncher/examples/
18:59:30 <TPFC-SYSTEM> AFAIK, no videos are available.
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19:00:03 <pa_2786> Hello, I have a question (or a future enhancement request).
19:00:34 <pa_2786> How can I catagorizr my Portable App Menu?
19:01:04 <Gizmokid2005> pa_2786: it'll be in the next menu release :)
19:01:09 <pa_2786> I have downloaded almost all the PA's and the list is difficult to scroll through when I want an app.
19:01:17 <pa_2786> ok, cool.
19:01:28 <pa_2786> I test the different apps
19:01:54 <pa_2786> Also THe Battle of Westmoth and the Juice portable app downloads are not good.
19:02:35 <pa_2786> I've downloaded each a couple pf times today and while complete they crash shortly after starting the install
19:02:49 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, it seems SF is having issues today with mirroring/downloads
19:02:58 <pa_2786> np
19:03:08 <pa_2786> will try later
19:03:17 <pa_2786> Thanks
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19:19:52 <pa_8761> Why this site don't make an advanced portable app maker software? Who to take an "before" and an "after" (install app) scan of pc?
19:20:30 <pa_8761> and we to need just to check, uncheck and modify some variables (and select an photo)
19:20:32 <pa_8761> why?
19:20:49 <TPFC-SYSTEM> It's very difficult to know what traces an application leaves without creating snapshots.
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19:21:50 <TPFC-SYSTEM> But there IS a portable software maker that doesn't need snapshots.
19:21:52 <TPFC-SYSTEM> http://jauntepe.sourceforge.net/
19:22:36 <TPFC-SYSTEM> It portablizes the INSTALLER and follows what happens when the program is installed and used.
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19:25:54 <pa_8761> I used Cameyo, but when you modify/create a file, that file can't be saved... This app have the same problem?
19:26:05 <pa_8761> portableapps.com haven't that problem...
19:26:57 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Do you mean that:
19:27:12 <TPFC-SYSTEM> 1. You portablize an application X.
19:27:28 <TPFC-SYSTEM> 2. You launch X Portable.
19:27:40 <TPFC-SYSTEM> 3. You try to save a file within X Portable.
19:28:01 <TPFC-SYSTEM> 4. The attempt fails.
19:30:08 <pa_8761> ..it's saying was saved, but i won't find it...
19:30:45 <TPFC-SYSTEM> That's kind of expected.
19:31:21 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Cameyo has blocked ALL write operations the application attempts.
19:31:39 <TPFC-SYSTEM> It thinks the application is trying to save its settings locally.
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19:33:38 <Sapioit> I maked an page refresh.. how you sayed about EvaLazer?
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19:37:07 <Sapioit> How to found the files who need to be putted in the same folder before make the installer?
19:37:34 <Sapioit> "PortableApps.comLauncherGenerator" is not working for me...
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19:39:35 <sapioit_> Browser crashed... sorry...
19:41:13 <sapioit_> Can, someone, make an video-tutorial about who to make an portable app same like portableapps.com's?
19:41:21 <sapioit_> Please!
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19:44:43 <TPFC-SYSTEM> sapioit_: Sorry, I don't know. :(
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19:46:14 <sapioit_> Thanks!
19:46:57 <sapioit_> 'cuz you told the truth..
19:47:13 <sapioit_> but... just youare on chat?
19:47:42 <sapioit_> I see "just" 18 without me...
19:47:57 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I think there are more, but most people prefer remaining silent (in case someone else can answer your question)
19:48:04 <sapioit_> 17 without we two...
19:48:37 <TPFC-SYSTEM> To be honest, I waited a few minutes before sending my "I don't know" message.
19:49:19 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I just wanted to acknowledge that I've read your message.
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20:10:28 <Gizmokid2005> sapioit_: many people in here aren't around all the time, called "idlers"
20:10:32 <Gizmokid2005> as for a video, it's unlikely.
20:10:35 <Gizmokid2005> .def field_guide
20:10:35 <GizmoBot> field_guide is here: http://portableapps.com/node/14868
20:10:42 <Gizmokid2005> ^^ that will help you though sapioit_
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20:17:17 <andreasma> hi all
20:17:21 <JohnTHaller> hola
20:17:50 <ZachThibeau> hola John
20:22:20 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: you see that a few recent uploads are busted?
20:23:27 <JohnTHaller> I commented, submitted a SF ticket and put notices on those app homepages (Juice and FF beta) a while ago
20:23:48 <Gizmokid2005> ahh, I've been on a conference call for about 2 hours, so I hadn't seen.
20:23:49 <Gizmokid2005> thanks :)
20:24:06 <Gizmokid2005> It's sad, especially since I'd love to update to FF4B10 with over 500 bugs fixed...
20:29:34 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, SF has issues today. New uploads failing. Mirroring failing. SFTP uploading is down. And they disabled CVS for like 1/3 of projects.
20:30:35 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Maybe I can comfort you a bit: I can't download X-LibreOffice due to SF's problems. :D
20:30:38 <Gizmokid2005> yeah I saw that update, PA being one of them :P
20:31:38 <JohnTHaller> The real LibreOffice Portable comes out tomorrow
20:31:42 <ZachThibeau> nice
20:31:56 <ZachThibeau> hopefully I can get a ChillPlayer development test out too
20:32:01 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Good to know.
20:32:03 <ZachThibeau> I think I fixed the skinning bug for the playlist
20:32:11 <ZachThibeau> seems to be working on my end
20:32:40 <JohnTHaller> And by real, I mean the official LibreOffice Portable hosted by The Document Foundation themselves.
20:33:04 <ZachThibeau> updating with a new skin too http://i54.tinypic.com/10hu435.png and cool
20:33:39 <JohnTHaller> cool
20:34:10 <ZachThibeau> even more minimilistic and nice on the eyes :)
20:35:53 <ZachThibeau> and thanks to a a guy on my PChat team, a 64bit build is also possible and is fairly stable too
20:37:27 <andreasma> hi JohnTHaller
20:37:39 <JohnTHaller> hi andreasma
20:38:25 <andreasma> JohnTHaller, nice week for the project ;-)
20:39:02 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, the LibreOffice made a good splash. And LO Portable will hopefully make a similar one :)
20:39:35 <andreasma> yeah
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20:53:34 <andreasma> good night
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21:27:47 <Computator> btw ZachThibeau , are you planning on getting the linux version of PChat updated?
21:28:14 <ZachThibeau> yes atm it's being slowly fixed though
21:28:44 <Computator> oh ok cool
21:28:46 <Computator> :)
21:28:57 <Computator> I am usin it right now
21:29:03 <Computator> PChat is cool :D
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22:18:28 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: any word from SF yet?
22:18:51 <JohnTHaller> No, they're always slow to fix stuff like this
22:19:36 <Gizmokid2005> so stupid
22:19:53 <Gizmokid2005> I'd offer to temporarily host them for you...but that would probably be more work for you :(
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22:28:00 <Kiriko> I was able to download it with winget portable
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22:54:10 <pa_0196> how to make portable apps starts automaticly
22:55:26 <pa_0196> can you guys help me?
22:55:34 <Gizmokid2005> pa_0196: you can't
22:55:47 <Gizmokid2005> autorun capabilities are disabled by windows itself for security.
22:55:54 <pa_0196> camon
22:56:03 <pa_0196> damn
22:57:08 <pa_0196> i was thinkin that if make some modifications at the autorun file maibe can be possible
22:57:20 <Gizmokid2005> Unlikely. Windows disallows it.
22:57:34 <Gizmokid2005> You could probably make it work on your own computer with some reghacks, etc.
22:58:59 <pa_0196> ah i want this mod to make this automatic thing in the computer at work but thank you guy anyway
22:59:08 <pa_0196> guys
22:59:20 <pa_0196> bye
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23:15:46 <Kiriko> Hey John this is the second time im able to download FireFoxPotable 4 Beta 10 using WingetPortable. You have to be abit persistant in telling it keep downlaoding but it works! :)
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