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00:32:07 <Kiriko> Hi John! :)
00:32:12 <JohnTHaller> hola
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01:06:50 <Kiriko> JohnTHaller: hey John is it posible to add language switches to FRDPortable?
01:07:08 <JohnTHaller> i haven't looked at it and don't have time to at the moment
01:08:06 <Kiriko> ok np :)
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02:58:32 <Tony__> anyone know anything about the LibreOfficePortable ?
03:00:43 <Tony__> Hello? Anyone in this chat room?
03:01:17 <Tony__> Help?
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03:27:43 <Kiriko> welcome back John!
03:27:55 <JohnTHaller> thx/ how's it going in here?
03:28:07 <OliverK> slowly
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03:29:42 <JohnTHaller> Kiriko: Why does PIXresizer require admin rights?
03:30:06 <Kiriko> I have no clue it just dose
03:30:13 <Kiriko> and that sucks
03:30:57 <pa_2364> Newbie question.. using an ironkey.. do these apps run on the process on the key or on the pc it's plugged into
03:31:15 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, it can't be an official release then because it's a major portability killer. Only apps that normally require admin rights natively (defragmentation, cleaning sys directories, task killers) are allowed to require admin rights.
03:31:25 <pa_2364> processor*
03:31:47 <JohnTHaller> pa_2364: Like everything on USB drives, the apps on IronKey run on the actual PC. The processor in the key just handles encryption.
03:32:57 <Kiriko> JohnTHaller: I thinks is has to do with all the active X dll files
03:33:13 <pa_2364> ah.. I am an IT guy by trade and work with alot of infected customer pcs was seeing if there was away to safely run an app and log into a site without risking data if using a customers pc
03:33:20 <JohnTHaller> Kiriko: Yeah, I think that is it as well. Once it is run once and they are registered, it no longer requires admin rights.
03:34:04 <JohnTHaller> pa_2364: Once you've connected the IronKey to the PC and authenticated, every app on a writeable partition on the IronKey is then vulnerable to infection by host processes. It's the nature of software and Windows.
03:34:28 <JohnTHaller> pa_2364: The only thing that wouldn't be vulnerable is something running from a read-only partition (read-only enforced by hardware, I mean).
03:34:51 <pa_2364> kk thanks for the info guys..! Yup.. someday there will be a device that will get around that.. a true virtual machine or something without a reboot
03:35:35 <JohnTHaller> pa_2364: Apps inside a virtual machine would, in theory, be protected. Of course the virtual machine itself (which would be a portable app) could be infected.
03:35:57 <pa_2364> It doesn't install anything locally just runs within the memory of the machine right?
03:36:11 <pa_2364> as a rule of thumb
03:36:51 <JohnTHaller> pa_2364: You mean our software? Some apps store data temporarily on the local machine. And every single app you run off a flash drive will leave some traces and bits due to the nature of Windows (prefetch, etc)
03:37:22 <pa_2364> KK.. LOL that's why I use macs or linux personally LOL
03:37:46 <JohnTHaller> Macs and Linux work the same way and everything leaves traces you can't delete without being admin.
03:37:47 <pa_2364> thanks again.. bye
03:38:05 <JohnTHaller> It would be a big security issue if they didn't :)
03:38:07 <JohnTHaller> Sure thing
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03:38:15 <Kiriko> JohnTHaller: Is there a way to get around that? on Pixresizer
03:40:43 <JohnTHaller> It seems you can 'manually' register the files temporarily in HKCU: http://www.vbforums.com/showthread.php?t=507228
03:41:14 <JohnTHaller> It seems a bit messy, but this should work in theory and you should be able to do it with a properly formatted .reg and PAL
03:41:47 <Kiriko> ok ill give it a try and let you how it gos
03:42:42 <JohnTHaller> I added a note and link to your thread so you have it. I'll remove this from the ready to release queue for now.
03:43:08 <Kiriko> ok
03:51:46 <Kiriko> JohnTHaller: I took a quick look at (install_script.iss) and it has to register all the Dll files in it http://tinypaste.com/a7d4b4
03:52:27 <JohnTHaller> right. but I think we can manually do it using that process I linked to.
03:52:32 <JohnTHaller> without needing admin
03:52:45 <Kiriko> ok
03:54:38 <JohnTHaller> Ok, can probably do Photofiltre, DShutdown, DTaskManager or DSynchronize tonight. Any thoughts people?
03:54:54 <JohnTHaller> ( listed from here on down: http://portableapps.com/node/11772#comment-156934 )
03:54:56 <Gizmokid2005> yes, ream SF a new one so we get the oss stuff! :P
03:55:27 <OliverK> one of the dapps
03:56:32 <JohnTHaller> dsynchronize would probably be most useful of the three. followed by dtaskmanager
03:58:43 <JohnTHaller> anybody else care to try one of the 4 apps and weigh in?
04:19:48 <OliverK> is sourceforge still locked out>
04:20:26 <OliverK> or, locked down rather?
04:20:43 <JohnTHaller> Things are coming online piece by piece. The release system is still down, though.
04:20:54 <OliverK> okay
04:21:08 <OliverK> private hosting it shall be
04:22:19 <JohnTHaller> Need to do a much bigger fundraiser for that.
04:22:30 <OliverK> yeah
04:22:33 <JohnTHaller> I do have a backup hosting quote in case it did come to that, though.
04:22:36 <OliverK> I was talking about yours
04:22:45 <OliverK> i was meaning for geany portable
04:22:57 <OliverK> i'm about to put out the prerelease of 0.20
04:23:23 <JohnTHaller> Ah. Well, you can move to Google Code as you're under one license and it's one google supports.
04:23:39 <JohnTHaller> We can't (multiple licenses, some OSI licenses that GC doesn't allow)
04:23:57 <OliverK> *sigh*
04:24:43 <OliverK> i am going to host a community preview of geany portable 0.20 on my private hosting and will post geany portable 0.20 final on sourceforge when the frs returns
04:25:33 <OliverK> i changed the gtk
04:25:41 <OliverK> it fires up in a brand, spanking new virtual machine
04:26:01 <OliverK> but I want to let it out of the cage in a limited fashion for a little bit
04:26:40 <JohnTHaller> That makes sense. Hopefully SF won't have further issues
04:27:15 <OliverK> indeed
04:27:23 <OliverK> i don't blame them for being cautious
04:28:24 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. Smart to reset all passwords just in case.
04:28:46 <OliverK> probably
04:28:59 <OliverK> people should be reseting them anyway
04:29:04 <OliverK> but some people are lazy
04:29:11 <OliverK> I probably wouldn't have thought to do it
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04:56:01 <Kiriko> JohnTHaller: I have to say that I am stumpt and I don't know what to do with that VB script :{
04:57:51 <JohnTHaller> Today's new app is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-01-30_-_dsynchronize_portable_2.30.1_released
04:58:08 <JohnTHaller> Post about it in the thread and we'll try and get someone to help you out.
04:58:27 <Kiriko> ok thank you
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05:17:23 <Kiriko> hey the new release is not showing in the main page
05:17:52 <JohnTHaller> gimme a sec
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05:21:05 <Kiriko> its showing now ^_^
05:21:33 <JohnTHaller> cool
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05:30:49 <OliverK> night folks
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05:35:23 <JohnTHaller> gnight all
05:35:37 <Kiriko> gnight
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09:17:05 <Reenen> plop!
09:17:07 <Reenen> Hi all
09:17:54 <Reenen> I am trying to create a portable app, but after I install the PortableApps.comLauncherGenerator.exe I get an error trying to create the portable app
09:19:01 <Reenen> The scribus documentation reads as follows: The AppID of Scribus is ScribusPortable, and so the launcher executable is named ScribusPortable.exe and the launcher configuration file is in App\AppInfo\Launcher\ScribusPortable.ini.
09:19:26 <Reenen> So App\Appinfo\launcher\myApp.ini ... does this come inside the application that I am trying to make portable folder?
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11:09:02 <Reenen> I need help... :-)
11:09:07 <Reenen> anyone around?
11:10:00 <ChrisMorgan> Reenen: sure, please speak up!
11:10:27 <Reenen> I am trying to create a portable app
11:10:30 <Reenen> but struggling
11:11:09 <Reenen> not sure how easy it is, but what I want to do is simple... I have a game that is writing all it's user data to /home (for linux) or documents and settings/username/application data/...
11:11:15 <Reenen> that all it is doing
11:11:25 <Reenen> how easy is it to make it portable?
11:11:43 <ChrisMorgan> C:\Documents and Settings\Username\Application Data is %APPDATA%
11:11:54 <Reenen> I copied it, and set it up to a folder named : TomePortable with folders App / Data / Other
11:12:21 <ChrisMorgan> With the PortableApps.com Launcher, you'll need a [DirectoriesMove] section ``appdata=%APPDATA%\Tome``
11:13:08 <ChrisMorgan> Get it from http://portableapps.com/apps/development/portableapps.com_launcher, and the app template further down the page, to start with.
11:13:09 <Reenen> actually it lies under Doc and settings/username/appname
11:13:28 <Reenen> I got that
11:13:39 <Reenen> when i try to run that, it complains about NSIS
11:14:27 <ChrisMorgan> You need to install NSIS Portable too.
11:14:54 * Reenen searches NSIS Portable
11:14:58 <ChrisMorgan> That'll probably be %USERPROFILE%\appname
11:15:12 <ChrisMorgan> There's a link to it from the PAL page (where it says that NSIS Portable is required)
11:16:47 <Reenen> soz, I am a bit lost... PAL page?
11:16:57 <Reenen> Lemme get NSIS then I'll be back
11:17:28 <ChrisMorgan> PAL = PortableApps.com Launcher
11:19:39 <Reenen> weird... it said it's 6mb now it's only 2.1mb
11:19:51 <Reenen> oh nvm
11:19:59 <Reenen> 2mb download 6mb installed
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11:22:40 <ChrisMorgan> Yep
11:22:44 <pa_5159> anyone on?
11:23:06 <pa_5159> Anyone having problems updating teamviewer?
11:28:38 <ChrisMorgan> pa_5159: what's the problem?
11:30:39 <pa_5159> Hi Chris, I sorted it by redownloading the package and adding it again, for some reason it wouldn't 'update' using the 'check for updates' kept saying the file was invalid
11:32:57 <pa_5159> I really love Portable apps, only thing I would change would be adding the option to use folders to organize apps and/or a scroll bar. If you have alot of apps it can be a pain to get to ones at the bottom of the list :)
11:33:29 <ChrisMorgan> Categories are coming in the next beta release of the Platform.
11:33:38 <pa_5159> thats awesome news!
11:33:51 <ChrisMorgan> As for a scroll bar - did you know you can press Page Up and Page Down to go up/down a page at a time?
11:33:56 <ChrisMorgan> It makes it pretty fast to get around.
11:34:18 <pa_5159> i didn't thats good to know thanks :)
11:35:07 <pa_5159> When is the next beta out?
11:35:20 <ChrisMorgan> Some time soon, we'll see how long it takes.
11:36:07 <pa_5159> will the auto update update the the gui itself? or does it just update apps?
11:36:56 <ChrisMorgan> It should do.
11:37:25 <ChrisMorgan> As for the TeamViewer issue, try downloading and installing it directly from http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/teamviewer_portable
11:39:19 <ChrisMorgan> I can't remember the URL to the file it gets the list of updates from, but if the direct link works, it's probably that the checksum in that file is out of date. I'll ask John to check it out when I next see him.
11:39:20 <pa_5159> yes that worked, thanks :)
11:41:27 <pa_5159> time to get back to work, nice chatting!
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11:43:42 <Reenen> right... got NSIS (finally, the download didn't complete twice, 3rd time lucky)... then I tried to create the app and got this error:
11:44:24 <Reenen> do I *have* to give an icon?
11:44:33 <Reenen> http://pastebin.com/Jd8HjDwp
11:49:57 <ChrisMorgan> Reenen: yep
11:50:32 <ChrisMorgan> If you're lazy, just copy another app's appicon.ico.
11:59:52 <Reenen> ok, I got one, just name it appicon.ico and place it in the appinfo folder?
12:00:45 <Reenen> ok, it successfully created
12:00:52 <Reenen> but it didn't find the .ini
12:01:25 <Reenen> now I presume it's here that I need to set the %USERPROFILE%\appname to the data folder?
12:01:35 <Reenen> so didn't run
12:03:22 <ChrisMorgan> App\AppInfo\appinfo.ini needs a few lines; take a look at another app and fill it in. Then the Launcher file goes in App\AppInfo\Launcher\TomePortable.ini - [Launch]; ProgramExecutable=App\Tome\tome.exe; [DirectoriesMove]; tome=%USERPROFILE%\Tome
12:05:30 <Reenen> which launcher file?
12:05:57 <ChrisMorgan> The configuration for the PortableApps.com Launcher.
12:06:09 <Reenen> ok
12:09:22 <Reenen> please expain this line a bit more (I might need a bit of tweaking): tome=%USERPROFILE%\Tome
12:09:28 <Reenen> why is it tome=
12:09:36 <Reenen> and not something else
12:09:51 <Reenen> and shouldn't it point to the data folder?
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12:10:04 <pa_2907> hello
12:10:10 <Reenen> lo
12:11:13 <pa_2907> one question, I have found a portable app that it doesn't work, what can I do?
12:11:21 <ChrisMorgan> Reenen: the "tome" part there refers to the subdirectory that gets used in the Data directory. You can have any value you like - except "settings" which is reserved, and any non-valid Windows path.
12:11:30 <ChrisMorgan> pa_2907: what is it?
12:11:38 <pa_2907> skype app
12:11:49 <pa_2907> if you try to download and install you can't
12:11:52 <ChrisMorgan> pa_2907: what doesn't work about it?
12:12:14 <ChrisMorgan> Doesn't install, or what?
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12:13:10 <Reenen> I'm sorry, do I have an old version? The error message I get is C:\myworks\PortableTome\App\AppInfo\Launcher\TomePortable.ini could not be found
12:13:34 <pa_2907> this is the error: The downloaded copy of Skype is not valid and can not be installed. Please try installing again.
12:13:42 <ChrisMorgan> pa_2907: try downloading it again.
12:14:21 <ChrisMorgan> Reenen: did you put that file as App\AppInfo\Launcher\TomePortable.ini? Make sure there's not a stray ".txt" extension on the end if you have Windows set to hide file extensions.
12:15:21 <pa_2907> same error, Chris can you try it?
12:16:44 <Reenen> ok, I finally got it to run
12:16:48 <pa_2907> when app try to download the other files is when fails
12:16:52 <Reenen> but it seems I'm going to need to set other stuff in there too
12:17:27 <ChrisMorgan> pa_2907: working fine for me
12:17:40 <Reenen> the game makes use of a significant amount of subdirectories.... I put them under TomePortable\App\allsubdirectories
12:18:03 <Reenen> should they not be there? the error (in the game) seems to be that it's not finding any of the files it is expecting to find
12:18:19 <ChrisMorgan> Reenen: assuming it normally goes in C:\Program Files\Tome or something like that, put it all in TomePortable\App\Tome
12:18:32 <ChrisMorgan> pa_2907: SkypePortable_5.1.0.104_online.paf.exe should be 834,480 bytes
12:18:42 <ChrisMorgan> Try downloading it with a different browser if you can
12:19:37 <Reenen> and how about all the other files that are shipped in the same folder as the .exe?
12:20:11 <ChrisMorgan> Reenen: copy C:\Program Files\Tome to TomePortable\App\Tome
12:20:49 <ChrisMorgan> So that e.g. C:\Program Files\Tome\tome.exe becomes TomePortable\App\Tome\tome.exe, C:\Program Files\Tome\xyz\foo.bar becomes App\Tome\xyz\foo.bar
12:21:22 <Reenen> oh... I have TomePortable\App
12:21:41 <Reenen> so I should have TomePortable\App\Tome, and then put all there?
12:22:02 <ChrisMorgan> Yes
12:22:41 <Reenen> ok... now that second line... in the directories move one...
12:22:52 <Reenen> that should be Tome then (using this example)
12:23:06 <ChrisMorgan> It can be whatever, that's for in the Data directory.
12:23:14 <ChrisMorgan> Bye, I'm off so bed now - sorry
12:24:48 <ChrisMorgan> Hang out for a while (patience is important in IRC) and ask for assistance if you can't get it working, eventually someone else should come who can help.
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12:25:19 <Reenen> thanks for your time
12:25:49 <Reenen> I am going to follow more on the help files, but you got me passed the initial errors (NSIS not being installed)
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12:56:50 <pa_1129> Hi, I am pretty new here. I have a question: do a portable application for flv video conversion exists? Thank you.
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13:21:11 <pa_5142> help!
13:21:11 <GizmoBot> pa_5142: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
13:21:31 <pa_5142> Sorry I am pretty new here. I have a question: do a PortableApplication flv converter exists? Thank you.
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14:00:22 <pa_6407> Is 2.0 coming out today?
14:04:02 <pa_6407> Hello?
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14:04:52 <pa_6407> Hi
14:04:52 <JohnTHaller> Today's new release is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-01-31_-_maxthon_portable_3.0.20.3000_released
14:05:04 <JohnTHaller> ... and off to eat breakfast...
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17:04:26 <JohnTHaller> The site should be faster for logged in users now
17:04:44 <JohnTHaller> Guests, too, actually
17:04:52 <ZachThibeau> nice and hello
17:07:46 <JohnTHaller> I disabled live stats for page access and similar. We lose admin reports on popular pages, etc and the ability to show how many guests there are online on the main Forums page, but the whole site is much faster. Give the site a try and see what you think :)
17:25:15 <ZachThibeau> feels snappy, definetly faster than before
17:26:17 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. It was barely usable at some points during the day. We've been getting quite a bit more traffic and the database was having trouble keeping up.
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17:43:03 <Gizmokid2005> Time for a more powerful database! haha
17:43:32 <JohnTHaller> mySQL using InnoDB tables, which is recommended for high-traffic Drupal sites
17:43:42 <Gizmokid2005> I meant the actual machine :P
17:44:09 <JohnTHaller> pretty beefy box. but yeah, we're gonna need an upgrade soon after drupal 7 as traffic keeps increasing.
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19:19:00 <pa_3006> Hey new to PA. Will not autorun on Win7 Pro. Any pointers for a noob?
19:19:10 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3006: it will never autorun on windows.
19:19:22 <Gizmokid2005> they disable usb autorun as a security feature.
19:19:59 <pa_3006> Any way to get an option of run on the auto run window that pops up instead of open to view files?
19:21:12 <JohnTHaller> Nope. Windows 7 is designed specifically to disable that. There is no advanced option in Windows to enable it. You can autorun it automatically using a utility of ours though.
19:21:32 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/node/13770
19:21:57 <pa_3006> Right on. Thank you very much.
19:22:05 <JohnTHaller> You can grab the NoGUI version and have it autostart with Windows if you'd like
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19:29:10 <pa_3709> John -- No GUI works on Win7 Pro Enterprise. Thanks alot!
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19:47:58 <MarkSikkema> Hello all
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20:15:26 <ZachThibeau> howdy MarkSikkema
20:21:23 <MarkSikkema> Hi ZachThibeau
20:22:34 <MarkSikkema> What you recon about JauntePE ?
20:24:11 <sar3th> https://sites.google.com/site/jauntepe/ ?
20:25:12 <MarkSikkema> that's the one :)
20:27:30 <ZachThibeau> it's an interesting project
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20:28:09 <ZachThibeau> and jauntepe has been off and on for a little while etc
20:28:48 <MarkSikkema> I used to play with it before, but it was closed source, not supporting vista and 7, then died
20:29:24 <MarkSikkema> Now it exchanged the MadHook for a new hooking engine and seems to work fine
20:31:53 <ZachThibeau> I kind of was indirectly responsible for juantepe dying the first time, (redllar and myself didn't see eye to eye back then and now we are better in talking with each other) I've been doing some testing with jauntepe 0.6 for a better part of a couple of months
20:32:24 <sar3th> the idea is kinda nice, but i don't think virtualization will solve all problems
20:33:44 <ZachThibeau> for me it's more or less a toy that yes has potential but atm PortableApps.com Method is the best method especially with our strict definition of portability
20:35:57 <MarkSikkema> I definitly think PortableApps.com Method is a better way of dealing with portability, but sometimes it's not possible to solve an issue in nsis, then a combination could be a way
20:36:08 <ZachThibeau> JauntePE reminds me though of SteveLamertons old app back when portasoft was still around called lapwing
20:36:58 <sar3th> MarkSikkema: in those cases, switching away from NSIS could offer more possibilities :)
20:37:39 <ZachThibeau> sar3th: pascal pal? :P
20:38:19 <sar3th> ZachThibeau: i was only refering to another langugage in general. but yeah, you caught me ;)
20:38:42 <ZachThibeau> lol I kind of know you and your preference to pascal/delphi :P
20:39:56 <ZachThibeau> though in general a c++ or even pascal version of pal could be slightly faster (not coding one but I mean in launching)
20:40:46 <sar3th> yes, it could be faster
20:41:02 <MarkSikkema> I came across a problem with cookies and 'temp. internet files' being left behind a couple of times. Nsis can't deal with it, solution could be combining PA.c launcher and JPE (just to redirect those folders)
20:41:18 <sar3th> and it might be easier for developers to use a high-level language rather than a marco-based language like nsis
20:42:09 <sar3th> hm, you caught one of the very rare cases where vitrualization would actually be helpful :/
20:42:33 <MarkSikkema> and what about redistring libraries ?!?!
20:43:19 <sar3th> MarkSikkema: what do you mean? in general? or in pascal/delphi's case?
20:43:32 <MarkSikkema> Posible in nsis, but fairly complicated to do on a clean PAF way
20:44:53 <MarkSikkema> I'm talking with nsis launchers it's basically impossible, there virtualization could help out big time
20:46:48 <sar3th> i don't think it would be a good thing to package a runtime environment into a virtualizated environment and run the application from there. if it requires a runtime which you need to install, it shouldn't work unless it's already installed on the host computer and clearly indicate the (missing) dependancy
20:53:16 <MarkSikkema> just virtually registring a dll or ocx file doesn't seem to be an issue. And it's possible only to hook and redirect the needed api's and registry keys, the rest of the system isn't effected
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