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01:30:22 <Aciago> hi
01:30:28 <OliverK> evening
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02:31:50 <GizmoBot> computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and Iron Portable, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback.
02:32:04 <computerfreaker> Hi guys, long time no see!
02:32:55 <OliverK> heya
02:35:23 <computerfreaker> How's it going?
02:38:00 <OliverK> meh
02:38:12 <OliverK> trying to build lugaru for windows
02:41:04 <computerfreaker> I don't think I've heard of that.
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02:49:23 <GizmoBot> computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and Iron Portable, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback.
02:49:23 <GizmoBot> computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and Iron Portable, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback.
02:53:19 <computerfreaker> Is it just me, or are the forums partially down? I can view and edit my topics, but I can't post new replies.
02:54:07 <OliverK> maybe, it was erroring on me earlier but i have no need to post replies currently
02:56:38 <computerfreaker> Guess I'll try to just wait it out then... not sure how well that'll work, since I've already been waiting over an hour and I can't stay on much longer, but here's hoping.
02:57:21 <OliverK> msi installers suck
02:58:17 <computerfreaker> I completely agree. They're hard to build and hard to pull apart.
03:01:35 <OliverK> progress bar doesn't work right, as well as being hard to break
03:01:43 <OliverK> plus you can't run multiple msi installers at once
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03:31:21 <computerfreaker> Hi JohnTHaller!
03:31:51 <JohnTHaller> hola
03:34:45 <JohnTHaller> how goes it
03:36:13 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: just built (and uploaded) Inkscape Portable 0.48.1, should be being released tomorrow provided the Tiger PPC builder does their build
03:36:54 <JohnTHaller> Ah cool
03:37:02 <computerfreaker> Busy as always... trying to get my PAF builds back up to date and the forums are semi-down (I can edit my topics but not post new comments). How's it going with you?
03:37:07 <JohnTHaller> Hey, were we waiting for something for Scribus?
03:41:20 <JohnTHaller> computerfreaker: what do you mean you can't post new comments?
03:42:00 <computerfreaker> When I try to post a new comment (in this case, an update message), I get taken to http://portableapps.com/duplicate/denied/post
03:42:06 <computerfreaker> "A little bit of server maintence is under way."
03:42:52 <JohnTHaller> You got spam blocked
03:43:04 <JohnTHaller> You posted the exact same comment 3 times. So your IP is blocked
03:43:21 <computerfreaker> Oh no.
03:43:22 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: we were, mainly from the Scribus team with the next release. I need to get back to them at some point...
03:44:38 <computerfreaker> Is there anything I can do to get unblocked (and not get blocked again next time I have a mini update flood)?
03:44:45 <JohnTHaller> I reset it
03:44:59 <JohnTHaller> Don't post the exact same comment multiple times or you'll be auto-blocked again
03:45:13 <JohnTHaller> That includes things like "Thanks" or "Updated 2011-02-03"
03:45:34 <computerfreaker> Thank you for unblocking me
03:45:54 <computerfreaker> Similar comments should be ok though, right? "Updated AppName 2011-02-03"?
03:46:01 <JohnTHaller> Correct
03:46:15 <computerfreaker> Great, now I can get my update messages posted. Thank you!
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03:51:13 <JohnTHaller> Sure thing
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04:02:12 <ZachT[AFK]> night
04:02:25 <JohnTHaller> gnightr
04:02:42 <computerfreaker> Bye!
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04:07:14 <Kiriko> hi guys!
04:09:07 <JohnTHaller> hola
04:10:00 <Kiriko> JohnTHaller: I posted InnoSetup portable both unicode and ansi http://portableapps.com/node/26576
04:10:04 <JohnTHaller> Cool
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04:11:26 <JohnTHaller> computerfreaker: Please indicate when you have permission to bundle freeware in your beta testing topics
04:11:57 <computerfreaker> You're referring to Photofiltre?
04:12:05 <JohnTHaller> Q-Dir
04:13:03 <computerfreaker> I'll take a look, thanks
04:13:18 <JohnTHaller> you do have permission, correct?
04:14:00 <computerfreaker> I don't recall if I requested permission or if the license permitted redistribution; that's what I'm looking at.
04:15:30 <computerfreaker> Here we go: it's in the license, which pops up on first run.
04:15:41 <computerfreaker> "You may distribute an unlimited number of unmodified , copies of the software to anyone you wish ! You are not allowed to sell this software!"
04:15:42 <JohnTHaller> what does it say?
04:15:50 <JohnTHaller> 'unmodified'
04:16:08 <JohnTHaller> packaging for portable use is considered a modification (as it is distributed outside the standard package)
04:16:23 <computerfreaker> I'll pull it until I can get in touch with the dev, then.
04:16:43 <computerfreaker> Would an online installer be ok until then?
04:17:32 <JohnTHaller> Personally, I like to ask first. But as you already posted it, switch it to live. In the future, get permission first.
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04:18:56 <JohnTHaller> computerfreaker: You think BleachBit is ready for release?
04:19:35 <computerfreaker> Could be. I need to give the latest build a thorough round of tests to be sure, but nobody's reported a problem with previous versions.
04:20:24 <computerfreaker> I was also going to create a set of cleaners for a typical PortableApps installation, but idk if I can find the time for that.
04:21:46 <computerfreaker> If you want to release it without the PA cleaner pack, it's probably ready, and I should be able to check over the weekend to make sure.
04:36:04 <computerfreaker> I just e-mailed the Q-Dir author. I've got to sign off now, so I'm going to have to just pull Q-Dir Portable until I can get a chance to finish my online installer, but with any luck I'll still manage to finish that up tonight.
04:36:15 <JohnTHaller> Okey
04:39:54 <computerfreaker> Bye!
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04:42:24 <Kiriko> question? when a program uses the registry to save settings and last app directory, Do you have to make PAL replace last drive in the reg file or no?
04:42:59 <Kiriko> *drive letter*
04:43:33 <JohnTHaller> Yup
04:43:54 <Kiriko> ok
04:44:30 <Kiriko> ok so i have to do that to Inno
04:44:40 <Kiriko> thank you
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04:49:53 <JohnTHaller> ChrisMorgan: This look good to you? http://pastebin.com/zxPk3j4e
04:51:28 <Kiriko> JohnTHaller: is there an example of registry modification that deals with last drive letter that i can use?
04:51:56 <JohnTHaller> Just about every app uses drive letter replacement. You just point it at the reg file instead of an .ini or .config file.
04:52:11 <Kiriko> ah ok
04:54:28 <Kiriko> man Im so dumnb, the best example that I can remember for this is NSISPortable
04:58:42 <OliverK> notepad++ portable
04:58:49 <OliverK> and, not dumb, just forgetful
04:59:04 <JohnTHaller> as we all are
04:59:35 <JohnTHaller> We all do dumb/stupid things, but it's a good idea to never call yourself dumb/stupid.
04:59:36 <Kiriko> ^_^ true true thank you
05:01:21 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: looks good to me
05:01:40 <JohnTHaller> I like the XML handling now that I know hot to use it
05:02:11 <ChrisMorgan> Personally I wouldn't bother with the quotes around WorkingDirectory, but that's mainly just preference. I only put it in if it'll break things; just having a trailing quote with no leading quote won't make it break.
05:02:27 <ChrisMorgan> XPaths can be a bit nasty, but the XML support is fairly good.
05:02:33 <JohnTHaller> Yeah I figured. I was just going based on the manual
05:06:57 <JohnTHaller> Ack, crashing on XP. Guess I'm not going to Pre-Release with it tonight.
05:20:41 <Kiriko> yey it works for me! :)
05:20:56 <JohnTHaller> cool
05:21:22 <Kiriko> now i have to see if i can add language switching -_-
05:34:43 <Kiriko> never mind Inno is only in English, it supports for other languages only for the setup that you make with it :(
05:36:36 <JohnTHaller> Ah. Not unusual
05:37:23 <Kiriko> it would have bin great if did support other languages since it is very well used program
05:54:06 <Kiriko> man i hate having neighbor fighting out side my door
05:54:58 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, hate that
05:55:34 <Kiriko> and what sucks is that i live in downtown in the middle of the city
05:58:03 <JohnTHaller> Today's new app is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-02-03_-_workrave_portable_1.9.3_released
05:59:08 <Kiriko> lol this is nce for ppl that play wow and other game that take a lot of time :)
06:02:13 <ChrisMorgan> Just finished my first week of regular employment, starting as a tester; even during the training, I've found about 8 reproducible bugs (of which two are important ones), two or three more which I haven't been able to reproduce, and a swathe of other minor annoyances like non-keyboard-navigable panels. Success :-)
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06:05:32 <Kiriko> this is bad time for the site to be down :(
06:06:29 <JohnTHaller> why?
06:06:54 <Kiriko> i was just updateting innos page when it went down
06:07:17 <JohnTHaller> Remember it's down every day from 1am to 1:10am-ish NY time for the database backup.
06:07:56 <Kiriko> ah ok ill keep that in mind next time since im in your time frame Im in MA
06:11:13 <JohnTHaller> ...and it's back
06:11:23 <Kiriko> yeap
06:16:29 <Kiriko> wow Workrave Portable is prety big
06:16:44 <JohnTHaller> Yup. And that's AppCompactored
06:16:55 <Kiriko> wow
06:17:22 <JohnTHaller> It's a GTK app, which means much bigger. ANd the locale files are 11mb
06:17:46 <Kiriko> that explane it
06:19:34 <Kiriko> I know im downloading it but im not using it for now
06:26:36 <Kiriko> ok guys I just finished adding PAL last drive setup to both vesions of inno and im out for the night. So Good Night Guys
06:27:46 <JohnTHaller> gnight
06:27:53 <JohnTHaller> I'm gonna logout too. sleep is needed
06:28:02 <Kiriko> yeap
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18:11:58 <pa_4910> hello, I have PA on my flash drive. I am trying to make changes to my FF (making 'startpage') my default startpage and search engine but the changes are not saving.
18:12:21 <pa_4910> i'm using win7 and running the FF from PA as an administrator
18:17:26 <pa_4910> help
18:17:38 <TheBigD> can you save channels as favorites somehow?
18:18:25 <pa_4910> TheBigD: not sure what you mean
18:18:30 <TheBigD> never mind, found it
18:19:24 <pa_4910> anyone know how to save setting in FireFox
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22:50:31 <pa_6376> is there a way for the portableapps.com platform to check for updates for apps that you have installed? or do you need to constantly check the website?
22:52:11 <JacobMastel> The beta has that option avaiable
22:52:22 <JacobMastel> the current version however needs to be checked against the website.
22:52:44 <JohnTHaller> beta: http://portableapps.com/news/2010-07-17_-_portableapps.com_platform_2.0_beta_5_released
22:53:23 <JacobMastel> Thanks John I was just hunting for it :)
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22:53:32 <pa_6376> cool thanks
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