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01:22:52 <ZachThibeau> howdy John
01:22:58 <JohnTHaller> hola
01:23:04 <ZachThibeau> whats new?
01:23:10 <JohnTHaller> Finishing up today's app
01:23:16 <ZachThibeau> cool
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01:53:08 <JohnTHaller> Today's new app is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-02-08_-_virtuawin_portable_4.3_released
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03:42:52 <GordCaswell> Evince Portable 2.30.3 Dev Test 1 uploaded: http://portableapps.com/node/26651
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05:55:02 <JohnTHaller> alright... off to bed. gnight all
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07:14:12 <Kiriko> hi guys! did I miss much?
07:17:35 <Kiriko> oh yeah, I finally got my computer up and running just like i love it ^_^
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08:43:23 <Kiriko> do you guys know of any good free hosting website that i can use?
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08:54:41 <Kiriko> dose this sound to good to be true?! http://www.freehostingcloud.com/knowledgebase/4/Web-Hosting-Features.html
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09:15:08 <auscompgeek> If that user just sent that link to the channel and quit, probably.
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10:46:57 <pa_2031> hey there! is there a 64 bit suite installer. I'm using windows 7 64 bit and can't run the installer.
10:57:46 <Kiriko> as for the moment we don't have one
10:58:10 <Kiriko> all owr software is 32bit only
10:59:23 <Kiriko> pa_2031: I have to say that is a bit odd, that the Suite installer did not work for you
11:02:09 <pa_2031> it asked me to get the 64 bit version
11:02:47 <Kiriko> are you running 64bit home or other version?
11:09:41 <pa_2031> Ultimate
11:10:00 <Kiriko> pa_2031: http://portableapps.com/node/24371
11:14:22 <Kiriko> pa_2031: if im not miestaking Win 7 Ultimate 64bit has win 32bit vertualisation
11:16:19 <pa_2031> just downloading the XP virtual machine now
11:19:29 <Kiriko> pa_2031: that should do the work
11:19:54 <pa_2031> installing the patch now
11:19:58 <pa_2031> thanks for heads up
11:20:30 <Kiriko> pa_2031: just glad to be of help! ^_^
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15:46:31 <GordCaswell> ZachThibeau: are you still looking to portablize MIT's "Scratch"?
16:10:01 <ZachThibeau> GordCaswell: I'm sorry I was away and Scratch?
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16:11:16 <GordCaswell> http://portableapps.com/node/19173#comment-118415
16:14:21 <ZachThibeau> look at the date, if I hadn't picked it up then chances are I'm not gonna
16:15:22 <GordCaswell> Great, I see dagardner has commented on the most recent request for it, so I'll check with him if he's gonna do it. If not, I'll take it then. Just being polite asking you first :)
16:19:43 <ZachThibeau> no worries, just fyi look at the date and then the user tracker for an indication if I've done it or not, helps in the long run :P
16:20:18 <GordCaswell> thanks for the tip, i'll keep it in mind for the future
16:21:00 <ZachThibeau> the only thing I like about drupal is the tracker :P
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19:39:58 <Kiriko> hi guys! :)
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22:04:38 <Kiriko> JohnTHaller: Welcome back! :)
22:07:21 <agdurrette> I have two apps that i think work correctly, what the next step to get them relesed?
22:08:20 <JohnTHaller> agdurrette: Have they been beta tested by the community?
22:08:48 <agdurrette> yes but not by meny people
22:10:26 <JohnTHaller> So they
22:10:34 <JohnTHaller> 're in the beta testing forum though right?
22:12:47 <agdurrette> yes
22:14:26 <JohnTHaller> Links please :)
22:14:32 <agdurrette> http://portableapps.com/node/25616
22:14:43 <agdurrette> http://portableapps.com/node/25617
22:15:16 <JohnTHaller> Mumble handling all reg keys properly now?
22:15:38 <agdurrette> I think so no one has reported any thing else
22:15:51 <JohnTHaller> I meant the ones that were reported
22:16:00 <agdurrette> yes
22:17:30 <JohnTHaller> Cool. ANd Halite, all things handled including portablizing in-progress torrents and such? Also is it 0.3.3 as the current stable?
22:18:01 <agdurrette> it should change the drive letter
22:18:07 <agdurrette> yes
22:18:19 <agdurrette> i tink it is let me check
22:19:02 <JohnTHaller> ARe they using PA.c launcher or custom?
22:19:33 <agdurrette> PA.c launcher
22:19:54 <Kiriko> I just took a quick look at the laucnher ini and it dose not have drive change in it
22:20:02 <JohnTHaller> Cool. I think you're good to make a post here linking to both apps: http://portableapps.com/node/11772
22:20:24 <JohnTHaller> Ah, you need that drive letter change. And the path change really. Otherwise it's not really portable/
22:20:58 <agdurrette> i have Halite 3.2 Paf i will up date it now
22:21:08 <JohnTHaller> Hang on a sec...
22:21:38 <JohnTHaller> Halite is also defaulting to folders in %USERPROFILE% for incoming and completed, which is not portable
22:21:58 <agdurrette> That should be fixed
22:22:29 <JohnTHaller> I just grabbed your current installer and dropped a torrent on the window and it defaulted to C:\Users\USERNAME\Halite Downloads\Incoming
22:22:50 <agdurrette> Oh... :/
22:23:32 <JohnTHaller> You don't have a DefaultData for it, so you'd need to set that up and setup defaults that make sense portably. If you use PA.c Launcher 2.1b2, you can have it working with a default set and replacements. Or you can add custom strings and have those replaced
22:24:50 <agdurrette> should i have it save downloads to the documents folder?
22:25:14 <Kiriko> that should be left for the user to setup
22:25:29 <JohnTHaller> yeah, but you still need a default
22:25:50 <JohnTHaller> it should probably default to its own data directory by default as those will be sure to exist and torrents aren't really documents
22:26:39 <agdurrette> Ok, I should have it updated and fixed tonight
22:26:43 <JohnTHaller> Or perhaps X:\Documents\Torrents\Incoming and X:\Documents\Torrents\Completed and then let users set it differently if they want would make more sense.
22:27:04 <Kiriko> also there are two .conf files that should be moved to data folder
22:28:04 <JohnTHaller> We should probably chat with all our app developers on Data vs Documents\something as default. It'll vary by app, but I think Documents makes more sense for, well, documents and files (as opposed to settings and configurations)
22:28:51 <Kiriko> yea I also have been thinking about that
22:28:58 <agdurrette> do i need to make it support more languages
22:29:13 <Kiriko> dose it support other languages?
22:29:18 <agdurrette> to be in PAF format*
22:29:25 <agdurrette> yes
22:29:30 <Kiriko> then yes
22:31:54 <Kiriko> also add pluins path support in appinfo.ini
22:32:15 <agdurrette> for?
22:32:47 <agdurrette> oh.. nv
22:33:06 <Kiriko> srry i have bad spelling -_-
22:37:16 <agdurrette> Is it ok to post Mumble on http://portableapps.com/node/11772 and then add Halite once everything is fixed?
22:37:34 <JohnTHaller> yup :)
22:37:59 <agdurrette> Sweet. thanks for the help :)
22:38:12 <Kiriko> that waht we are here for ^_^
22:39:27 <agdurrette> well if all goes well I should have it by tomorow :)
22:39:39 <JohnTHaller> cool beans
22:39:53 <Kiriko> cant wait
22:41:34 <agdurrette> Something wrong with SF.com
22:42:25 <agdurrette> it is slower than normal :/
22:42:54 <JohnTHaller> they did a redesign today. always slow when they do that
22:43:03 <Kiriko> ah ok
22:43:35 <agdurrette> its ugly.... just like lifehacker
22:44:01 <JohnTHaller> I think it's better than that :-P
22:44:56 <agdurrette> Any thing is better thant lifehackers design :D
22:45:27 <Kiriko> JohnTHaller: how is going your version of PAD-kit?
22:46:15 <agdurrette> PAD-kit :o
22:46:37 <Kiriko> PortableApps.com Development Kit
22:51:56 <Kiriko> you can find my beta sersion here http://portableapps.com/node/24746
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22:53:47 <Kiriko> *version
22:54:28 <Kiriko> sorry guys today my spelling is worse because im sick -_-
22:55:41 <Gizmokid2005> bah, I need to update Songbird
22:55:50 <Gizmokid2005> They aren't giving me a heads-up anymore...
22:55:58 <Kiriko> ah that sucks
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23:08:16 <Pyromaniac> anyone seen CodySafe ∫ Protect?
23:08:22 <Pyromaniac> http://www.codysafe.com/codysafe/codysafe-protect-in-sketch.html
23:08:32 <Pyromaniac> It looks interesting
23:08:46 <Pyromaniac> I downloaded, but I haven't tried it
23:09:31 <Pyromaniac> just thought JohnTHaller might wanna take a look at it...
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23:22:59 <JohnTHaller> Always been disappointed with CodySafe. More hype than delivery.
23:30:00 <Kiriko> i figuerd as much, it sounds to good to be true
23:30:15 <JohnTHaller> Most of the apps you can get are - surprise - ours.
23:30:28 <JohnTHaller> Wonder if he's repackaging or disabling splash screens like Lupo was/is.
23:30:56 <Kiriko> well we can put a team of ppl to try and figuer it out
23:32:33 <JohnTHaller> We'd have to buy it, which I'd rather not do. It's a paid feature. I'm curious if it's using any of our code as his installer looks to be patterned after our online installers.
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23:32:52 <Kiriko> ah i see
23:33:24 <JohnTHaller> The other 'features' are mostly hype. ViruSense all it does is warn once autorun.inf has changed. Lost and Found all it does is put a text file called lost.txt in the root directory. And those are billed as big exclusive features.
23:33:51 <agdurrette> Quick question: for a freware app I can include the app in the installer if i have permission?
23:34:02 <JohnTHaller> yes, but only with permission
23:36:35 <agdurrette> I'm looking into http://ski.ihoc.net SKiFree :)
23:39:21 <Kiriko> ahh i hate codysoft.. now i know why i did not use there program, it craches like hell
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23:40:28 <pa_4469> hello
23:40:38 <Kiriko> brb i have to restart my computer cause of codysoft
23:40:42 <JohnTHaller> ouch
23:40:44 <JohnTHaller> hi pa_4469
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23:40:49 <pa_4469> what PA can play *.cda files
23:40:59 <pa_4469> hi JohnTHaller
23:41:16 <JohnTHaller> Those would be CD audio files I believe. I know VLC can play them.
23:41:28 <JohnTHaller> I think XMPlay may be able to as well
23:41:43 <pa_4469> I've tried coolplayer, vlc but neither can play
23:42:46 <JohnTHaller> actually, it looks like you need the actual audio file as well. CDAs are just shortcuts and don't contain audio: http://www.fileinfo.com/extension/cda
23:43:00 <pa_4469> i've tried to open from explorer and from the apps but they won't play
23:44:04 <pa_4469> they are on a cd and in tracks ... they play in the audio player fine
23:44:11 <agdurrette> Did you copy the .cda from a cd?
23:44:25 <agdurrette> oh
23:44:45 <JohnTHaller> Hmm... I'm not sure offhand as I haven't dealt with a CD in a while, lemme grab one
23:45:03 <pa_4469> k
23:45:05 <agdurrette> On vlc
23:45:24 <agdurrette> click media (on the menu bar)
23:45:46 <agdurrette> then open disk
23:47:03 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, what agdurrette said. It seems VLC won't open a CDA shortcut directly, but will play the disk if you do open disk and select audio CD. I have it playing in VLC Portable now.
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23:48:02 <pa_4469> yes that worked... i had forgotten about the "media".. thanks agdurrette and JohnTHaller
23:48:16 <JohnTHaller> glad it worked :)
23:48:25 <agdurrette> No problem :)
23:49:25 <pa_4469> ok i have another question.... how do i save my information on FF.. i've tried every thing i know of .. even run as administrator.. i'm on win7
23:49:40 <JohnTHaller> What do you mean save your information?
23:49:56 <pa_4469> running PA from a Flash drive
23:50:43 <Kiriko> are you using win 7 ultimate or other version?
23:51:01 <pa_4469> my website i visit, favorites etc
23:51:35 <pa_4469> win7 enterprise on an ibm laptop
23:52:06 <pa_4469> genuine and updated
23:52:43 <JohnTHaller> you running firefoxportable.exe directly or running from the PA.c menu?
23:52:56 <pa_4469> tried both ways
23:53:15 <JohnTHaller> and what happens as it starts up?
23:53:35 <JohnTHaller> you sure firefox isn't already running anywhere and checked task manager to be sure?
23:53:39 <pa_4469> everytime i visit "tvlistings.aol.com
23:53:54 <pa_4469> i have to type my zipcode etc..
23:54:18 <pa_4469> i don't have FF on my laptop only google chrome
23:54:29 <pa_4469> i only run FF from the flash drive
23:54:48 <JohnTHaller> Oh, a specific site issue. But does other stuff work properly, save bookmarks, etc?
23:55:23 <pa_4469> no.. not specific issue.. cannot save any website in favorites
23:55:44 <pa_4469> i have a bunch of favs that i would like to carry with me..
23:56:35 <JohnTHaller> Ok, which FF version, where did you install to (full path)?
23:56:55 <pa_4469> bookmarks are not working... they don't save or cache to my flash drive
23:57:26 <pa_4469> i have the default that came with PA and it's all updated
23:57:45 <pa_4469> 3.6.13
23:57:47 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, but what is the full path you installed to? Is firefox portable installed to X:\PortableApps
23:57:51 <JohnTHaller> \FirefoxPortable?
23:58:52 <pa_4469> i just have 1g flash drive and it's to the root folder.. let me check