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03:06:51 <GizmoBot> OliverK is a programmer, podcaster, html spelunker and pretty handy with a screwdriver. In short, not to be trifled with.
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04:05:27 <mrmcpowned> GizmoBot: version
04:05:40 <mrmcpowned> Awe, guess it dont work liek that :)
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06:56:33 <pa_5492> hello, I have a question about thunderbird, is it the right place to ask?
06:57:48 <pa_5492> thunderbird portable edition
06:58:31 <pa_5492> after installing an add on in one computer, I can not see the add on in another computer
07:00:57 <pa_5492> help!
07:00:57 <GizmoBot> pa_5492: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
07:02:43 <pa_5492> after installing an add on in one computer, I can not see the add on in another computer. Also, after modifying the setting for an add on, the setting would not changed if I use TB in another computer. So I have to modify it again. Anyone can help?
07:14:28 <pa_5492> still waiting
07:40:47 <Kiriko> Hi
07:40:53 <Kiriko> sorry for the delay
07:41:08 <Kiriko> what os are you using?
07:50:44 <pa_5492> I am using win 7 in both pc
07:51:06 <pa_5492> many thanks for your help
07:53:50 <pa_5492> and i am using the latest version of TB portable
07:54:41 <pa_5492> regarding my os, one is win 7 64 bit, the other is win 7 32 bit
08:00:42 <Kiriko> did you get TB with the Suite?
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08:02:37 <Kiriko> PA_5492: before we get any ferder in this, dose your win 7 64 bit have win vertualisation?
08:04:23 <Kiriko> Hi Cris! :)
08:04:39 <Kiriko> oops *Chris
08:18:30 <pa_5492> hello
08:18:36 <pa_5492> sorry for the delay
08:19:38 <pa_5492> " did you get TB with the Suite" no, i dl the TB separately and installed it in my suite
08:20:39 <Kiriko> ok, the win 7 64 bit have the vertualisation program or not?
08:21:24 <pa_5492> "dose your win 7 64 bit have win vertualisation?" regarding this, I am not sure. from where can I know?
08:22:20 <Kiriko> ChrisMorgan: A little help here please!
08:24:05 <Kiriko> ChrisMorgan: "PA_5492: after installing an add on in one computer, I can not see the add on in another computer. Also, after modifying the setting for an add on, the setting would not changed if I use TB in another computer. So I have to modify it again"
08:24:35 <pa_5492> sorry I am new to win 7, I do know about win vertualisation
08:25:18 <Kiriko> thats ok I my self dont have win 7 at all i have win xp still
08:25:51 <Kiriko> but i know that a lot of people have problems with some appications
08:26:57 <pa_5492> oh... so maybe this issue is caused by win 7
08:28:10 <Kiriko> ok here is a post about 64 bit system http://portableapps.com/node/24371
08:30:21 <pa_5492> thanks so much for you guys answer. i think i will try in different 32 bit pc later and get back to you if it's ok
08:31:11 <Kiriko> no problem, we are happy to help :)
08:31:19 <pa_5492> Many thanks Chris. Many thanks Kiriko.
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08:32:28 <Kiriko> well guys im out the rest of the night, so good night! ;)
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13:45:59 <Little-Miss> Hi
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14:00:11 <PAc_user> 2 SPAM messages, one at portableapps.com/node/26733 and another at portableapps.com/node/26729
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14:22:57 <Little-Miss> Hi it says # DamnVid has a built-in Youtube video search. Search and download directly from within the app! # It sucks less!
14:23:21 <Little-Miss> What does it mean that DamnVid sucks?
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17:14:00 <pa_6512> help in Google Chrome Portable 9.0, extensions will not install. They used to install in v.8.0
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17:36:53 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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18:17:56 <Online-Guy> Hi can I ask something?
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18:19:26 <Online-Guy> Hello
18:19:36 <Online-Guy> anybody
18:20:39 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Of course you can ask. :)
18:23:35 <Online-Guy> It says on http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/damnvid_portable DamnVid has a built-in Youtube video search. Search and download directly from within the app! It sucks less! Is DamnVid a dumb app
18:24:03 <Online-Guy> What does it mean
18:25:46 <Online-Guy> Are there any screenshots of beta 6
18:28:15 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Maybe a screenshot makes the YouTube video search feature of DamnVid easier to understand.
18:28:17 <TPFC-SYSTEM> http://damnvid.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/img/youtubebrowser-allthree.noinclude.png
18:29:35 <TPFC-SYSTEM> "A cross-platform software that sucks less." --the official homepage of DamnVid
18:31:00 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Finally, I think there are no screenshots of PortableApps.com Platform 2.0 Beta 6.
18:31:50 <Online-Guy> Alright. Maybe John wantes to keep it a secret so long he can
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18:32:32 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Or maybe there isn't anything to show yet. ;)
18:32:55 <Online-Guy> Clicked on the wrong thing
18:33:28 <Online-Guy> PortableApps.com Platform is the only good platform on the ner
18:33:33 <Online-Guy> net
18:34:10 <Online-Guy> No I am not being funny
18:34:19 <Online-Guy> Only
18:34:58 <Online-Guy> Other ones are just a joke
18:36:59 <Online-Guy> What do you think?
18:37:28 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I dislike portable application suites in general.
18:37:53 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I have currently 57 portable applications and have collected most of them one by one.
18:39:12 <Online-Guy> Well I used to do the same thing. I was thinking like this I am not using them right now by in the future. They all took total 1 Gb
18:39:46 <Online-Guy> So I did delete them all and just leave those I use
18:40:11 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Disk space isn't a problem for me, I use a mechanical external hard drive. 8-)
18:40:50 <Online-Guy> Alright. I use a kingston 4 GB flash drive
18:41:45 <Online-Guy> Why use a Labtop when you can use a USB Flash Drive as a labtop
18:42:06 <TPFC-SYSTEM> That's what I think as well. :)
18:42:58 <Online-Guy> It has all ready all you will ever need. Your files and apps
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18:44:18 <Online-Guy> I have always my USB flash drive with my
18:44:27 <Online-Guy> me
18:45:20 <Online-Guy> and a Bluetooth USB 2.0 Mini Adapter
18:47:37 <Online-Guy> Do you use a text to speech software so you don't have to read a lot and get a headache
18:49:00 <TPFC-SYSTEM> No. Reading a lot of text doesn't cause a headache to me. :)
18:49:56 <Online-Guy> But the light from the screen can't be good for the eye
18:50:04 <Online-Guy> eyes
18:50:22 <Online-Guy> to long
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18:51:32 <GizmoBot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.bensawsome.com/ircstats
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18:52:44 <Online-Guy> Who would hate waffles really????? They are awesome
18:53:05 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Online-Guy: AFAIK, the light is not bad either.
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18:55:43 <Online-Guy> http://www.urbandictionary.com is so awesome website when people use unknown words
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18:57:30 <Online-Guy> I could not use your kind of drives. I would just feel bad if I didnt use it often
18:57:59 <Online-Guy> I would just be thinking You bought and it costs a lot now use it
18:58:48 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Well, I tend to leave the drive home if I know I won't need it.
19:00:01 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Think about it, about 16 billion bytes (= used disk space) of data I absolutely don't want to lose (even though I do have complete backups)...
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19:00:43 <Online-Guy> I have my flash drive i my cell phone bag it has 2 pockets for my Nokia 5130-c2 and my usb flash drive
19:02:36 <Online-Guy> When I buy a new flash drive and when I have moved my files from the old drive I destroy the old one just to feel safe
19:04:29 <Online-Guy> I don't have FBI secret files hahahahahahaha but still I want to feel safe
19:05:12 <Online-Guy> Do you understand
19:05:19 <Online-Guy> what I mean
19:05:58 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Yes to a certain extent.
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19:38:23 <GTKCat> 0hai
19:38:57 <GTKCat> As bare DOSbox is portable in itself, why not replace DosBox portable with D-box portable?
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19:39:14 <GTKCat> D-box is a DOSbox frontend, DOSbox already included in the installation
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20:24:58 <mrmcpowned> Ohai Kiriko
20:25:24 <Kiriko> hey how you doing?
20:25:56 <mrmcpowned> Goodish
20:26:07 <mrmcpowned> Just missing an ini i need
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20:43:47 <GTKCat> so, will D-box be available as "portable"?
20:46:10 <GTKCat> =_=
20:46:24 <mrmcpowned> GTKCat: Not sure
20:46:50 <mrmcpowned> Should ask someone who makes stuff portable on a regular basis :D
20:46:55 <GTKCat> Portabilizing bare DosBox is not right since it's _portable by design_
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20:47:08 <GizmoBot> Bensawsome is from the PortableApps.com forums, likes waffles VERY MUCH, and has a site at http://www.bensawsome.com . He also maintains StatBot and the IRCStats pages @ http://www.bensawsome.com/ircstats
20:47:33 <mrmcpowned> GTKCat: Then i see no reasy why it cant be added to the portable apps directory.
20:47:37 <mrmcpowned> reason*
20:48:52 <GTKCat> Using it with PA.c will result in flushing all games that have relative paths without lots of level-back dots
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20:49:40 <pa_9433> hi. does anyone know if its possible to change the location of the folders on the portable apps UI
20:49:47 <GTKCat> Like, ya'll need to place games at tome's root or somewhere else
20:50:09 <mrmcpowned> Well, you are actually trying to portablize an existing version tahst installed?
20:50:14 <mrmcpowned> thats*
20:50:28 <mrmcpowned> That really wouldnt seem right :\
20:50:48 <GTKCat> I know DOSbox does NOT need the installer, it's just for convenience of "scrubs"
20:51:21 <mrmcpowned> GTKCat: You do understand the installer is what sets the directories, and paths, right?
20:51:37 <GTKCat> all it needs is:
20:51:38 <GTKCat> Dosbox.exe
20:51:38 <GTKCat> SDL.dll
20:51:38 <GTKCat> SDL_net.dll
20:51:38 <GTKCat> Dosbox.conf
20:51:47 <mrmcpowned> The whole point of teh installer is to add teh PA.c version of the application.
20:51:54 <mrmcpowned> the*
20:52:14 <GTKCat> DOSbox does NOT need the installer, nor does it need the portabilizer
20:52:31 <GTKCat> it's portable by design
20:52:50 <mrmcpowned> True, but it does need it if it's to eb integrated into PA.
20:52:54 <gluxon> pa_9433: Not currently, but I believe it's a planned feature.
20:52:54 <mrmcpowned> be*
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20:53:27 <GTKCat> if you try to integrate a portabilized DOSbox into a paclet, it will need you to make a "games" directory on the disk.
20:53:45 <mrmcpowned> Why not have the directory premade..
20:53:52 <GTKCat> I mean, use it with static mounts
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20:53:59 <mrmcpowned> Ah
20:54:16 <mrmcpowned> Well, cant those configurations be rewritten constantly so it works?
20:54:18 <GTKCat> those put in autoexec of dosbox.conf
20:54:59 <GTKCat> No matter where the conf is (in appdata or dosbox folder), relative paths for mount still go as in dosbox folder
20:56:22 <GTKCat> so, you'll need to either:
20:56:22 <GTKCat> Put games in DOSbox main folder (will be flushed on update)
20:56:23 <GTKCat> Put them in a folder alongside portableapps (in partition's root, if on a pen-drive) - requires a lot of "back one level" dots in path
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20:57:35 <GTKCat> N:\PortableApps\DOSbox Portable\App\DOSbox<version>
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20:58:11 <mrmcpowned> GTKCat: Simplest aproach is always the best
20:58:15 <mrmcpowned> approach*
20:58:54 <GTKCat> simplest is to put both the CONF and the games in dosbox folder (alongside DOSbox.exe, SDL.dll and SDL_net.dll)
20:59:08 <GTKCat> but that is not good with pacupd
21:02:16 <GTKCat> Second approach is: on N:\PortableApps\DOSbox Portable\App\DOSbox<version> to have the CONF put to "data", and store the games in N:\games, but that'll require... "....\games\" added to all paths in static mounts
21:03:01 <GTKCat> (we need to keep paths relative, as on other PC the pen drive may get a different letter)
21:03:46 <GTKCat> Mount c clonk
21:03:46 <GTKCat> Mount c ....\games\clonk
21:07:19 <GTKCat> OpemTTD is another app in question, since it is "portable by design"
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21:12:28 <GTKCat> mrmcpowned: after all, it's a waste of your time/effort to maintain packages of software that is _not_ in need of pacwrap
21:13:03 <mrmcpowned> heh
21:13:16 <mrmcpowned> I've been trying to pack ChatZilla but im missing an ini
21:14:03 <mrmcpowned> appinfo.ini
21:14:56 <GTKCat> chatzilla is probably in need of pacwrap
21:15:02 <mrmcpowned> It is
21:15:06 <mrmcpowned> I just need taht ini
21:15:10 <GTKCat> but not DOSbox/OpenTTD
21:15:10 <mrmcpowned> that*
21:18:04 <GTKCat> :-( ZOMG, Old-Games.Ru is being HELLISH SLOW!
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21:22:03 <mrmcpowned> lol
21:23:04 <mrmcpowned> Hwo are you able to downlaod these games..
21:23:19 <mrmcpowned> Isnt there digital copyright protection and such...
21:25:22 <GTKCat> that's just an abandonware site that also tries to release patches (for games that came out uncompletable), translate games, ...
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21:25:43 <GTKCat> the legendary bug in Barbarian game
21:25:52 <GTKCat> they fixed it
21:26:56 * GTKCat is dloading Warlords II Deluxe
21:27:25 <GTKCat> but it's slow as a d@mn@710n
21:28:30 * GTKCat is not even fully human. Just some mindless fat ####
21:29:16 <mrmcpowned> lol
21:30:36 <GTKCat> mindless fat ####, who also fails at FPS's (and therefore, largely dislikes them)
21:31:45 <GTKCat> Now torrenting Shogun: Total War (2000, 1.1 GB)
21:32:53 <GTKCat> I restricted uTorrent, but dload of Warlords 2 is still $l0w
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23:38:42 <Kiriko> mrmcpowned: did you make the info.ini file?
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23:54:49 <mrmcpowned> Kiriko: No?
23:54:59 <mrmcpowned> This is my first time packaging an app
23:56:35 <Kiriko> oh ok, here follow the instructions here http://portableapps.com/development/portableapps.com_format#appinfo