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06:35:52 <Kiriko> hi john! :D
06:35:56 <JohnTHaller> hola
06:36:33 <Kiriko> i cant wait to see what the new app is going to be!
06:37:43 <JohnTHaller> It was going to be SPlayer. But I found out just before I released that I'll need to do full SQL updating to get settings updated for drive letters. So I'm up very late finishing a replacement
06:38:10 <Kiriko> oh man that sucks :(
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07:08:25 <Kiriko> i need coffee
07:09:15 <JohnTHaller> i need sleep
07:09:29 <JohnTHaller> Today's new app is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-02-17_-_bleachbit_portable_0.8.7_released
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07:13:53 <Kiriko> nice
07:26:48 <auscompgeek> JohnTHaller: you can go to sleep now ;p
07:27:16 <auscompgeek> I need to build that ChatZilla Portable launcher.
07:30:20 <auscompgeek> oh, mrmcpwned already posted it, it seems.
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15:34:46 <pa_4474> Howdy, Y'all
15:35:40 <sar3th> hi pa_4474, how can we help you?
15:35:47 <pa_4474> Help! I downloaded PA 2.0 Beta 5 prerelease and the apps are working fine but aren't showing up in the PA
15:36:07 <sar3th> are the applications in the right folder?
15:36:51 <pa_4474> they are installed in the root folder of my usb device
15:37:09 <pa_4474> is that the right folder?
15:37:51 <pa_4474> Oh ! there it goes, I move an app to the portable apps folder, and close then relaunched the PA app, and it showed up
15:37:57 <pa_4474> thanks, you;'ve been the best help.
15:38:20 <sar3th> you're welcome, i was just about to suggest moving them :()
15:38:22 <sar3th> *:)
15:39:08 <pa_4474> yes, they are all showing now thanks again bye
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18:44:04 <Simeon> hi all
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18:45:26 <Kiriko> hi every one! :)
18:48:25 <Simeon> hi Kiriko
18:49:25 <Kiriko> Hi Simeon: did i miss much?
18:49:46 <Simeon> read the logs ;)
18:50:02 <Simeon> Seriously, I just came here minutes ago
18:50:14 <Kiriko> ah ok
18:52:44 <Kiriko> well thank god not much has happen since i went to bed at 8 am lol
18:53:01 <Simeon> whats your local time?
18:54:07 <Simeon> theres not much happening here lately.
18:54:26 <Kiriko> i have the same time as John
18:54:30 <Simeon> ok
18:54:53 <Simeon> weird time to go to bed...
18:55:08 <Kiriko> yea is that i have imsomnia
18:55:15 <Simeon> ah
18:55:18 <Kiriko> and i have to med to go to bed
18:55:49 <Simeon> oh.
18:56:16 <Simeon> sorry about that. must be hard.
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19:20:08 <Simeon> hi ZachThibeau
19:20:14 <ZachThibeau> hey whats up
19:20:48 <Simeon> WOW- sf.net looks great. first time I see their new front page and not only the download page
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19:22:03 <Simeon> Isnt there a portableapps-dev project on sf.net?
19:22:03 <ZachThibeau> indeed
19:22:09 <ZachThibeau> and I dunno I think so
19:22:46 <Simeon> Scriptdeamon has one - maybe I can use it alongside him.
19:22:47 <ZachThibeau> but I'm just glad I'm done my job assessment for the job I applied for in the city that I'm moving to
19:23:01 <Simeon> Nice.
19:25:16 <Simeon> I have to find a new home for my dev stuff as Patrick is closing his hosting.
19:27:08 <ZachThibeau> I could host if you want
19:27:48 <Simeon> if its not any trouble/effort
19:28:15 <ZachThibeau> nah no trouble at all
19:28:48 <Simeon> that would be very kind then!
19:28:53 <ZachThibeau> just pm me with the password you want for the ftp account and I'll set you up
19:29:25 <ZachThibeau> I have no real way to keep track of download stats really but iirc MaienM had a php download script that did something like that if he still has a copy I could use
19:29:51 <Simeon> ah - its not that importand.
19:30:01 <ZachThibeau> alrighty
19:30:02 <Simeon> its nice to have but I have been living good without.
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20:49:47 <Simeon> hi pa_6481
20:55:24 <pa_6481> I am new to this. I don't know if you can read this without some sort of slash command. I have portableappa on my Western Electric Passport removable drive. I use it to access Firefox/Zotero wherever I am. I have it pluged into my wifes computer. I can't get to the drive to use portable firefox. I made a folder on her computer and installed a copy on her computer and that appears OK but I still can't get to my passport. On
20:59:13 <mrmcpowned> Well
20:59:20 <mrmcpowned> Whats the specific problem?
20:59:27 <mrmcpowned> Like any errors?
20:59:27 <pa_6481> 1. How can I launch my PortableApp copy on my wifes machine? Do I need to reinstall? I have a lot of thesis infor that I am afraid that I might lose. Should I remove the PortableApp copy that I installed on my wife's hard ?drive. It seems like I have used my passport removable drive on other machines at school and launching it was no problem.
20:59:53 <mrmcpowned> pa_6481: Refer to my question
21:01:15 <pa_6481> No errors, No problem EXCEPT when I plug my passport into my wifes machine, I can't get to the ProtableApp menu; it does lauch. The portableapp icon does not appear.
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21:02:05 <pa_0003> Hi I'm having trouble getting started
21:03:03 <pa_6481> Fat fingers.. the portable Icon does not lauch. How do I access the PortableApps menu so that I can launch the portable FireFox?
21:03:13 <pa_0003> I have installed and got to the point of adding a account but it keeps saying the username or password is incorrect
21:03:53 <Simeon> @pa_6481: Browse to it in explorer and double click it.
21:04:33 <Simeon> does that work.
21:04:40 <mrmcpowned> Whats the operating system on your wifes machine?
21:07:08 <pa_6481> My wife has XP. I accessed PortableAppa by going to mycomputer (explorer). I see the .exe file. I double click on that and it wants to install. In desperation, I made a folder in the C: drive and installed. Work fine but I still don't seem to be using my externat, Passport, drive.
21:08:25 <mrmcpowned> Hmm
21:08:31 <mrmcpowned> Sounds odd
21:08:44 <mrmcpowned> Never had a problem with pas when i use xp...
21:08:56 <pa_6481> Do you have to install PortableApp on any machine that doesn't have it before you can access the external drive upon which you have installed on the external drive.
21:09:08 <mrmcpowned> You shouldnt have to
21:09:21 <mrmcpowned> Defeats the purpose of a portable app
21:12:17 <pa_6481> I never have in the past. I plug the external into a multiple UBC that is hook into one of the UBC conections on the frount of the PC. It appears to be working normally. I can access all of the files. When you approach a machine that has never had Portable Apps installed, my understanding is that you click on the portable symbol and it lauches your menu. That didn't happen. I am missing something?
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21:13:18 <Simeon> thats right.
21:13:30 <Simeon> so portableapps is already installed on the external drive.
21:13:43 <Simeon> ?
21:14:59 <pa_6481> Yes. And it worked fine last semester. Actually it worked better that fine, it was outstanding. I an any advocate of this system at my universtity. It is ironic that now I am having problems.
21:15:30 <Simeon> and if you browse to the drive and double click the exe?
21:16:55 <pa_6481> I'll try again. But I now have an icon related to the install I just did as a test on C: Should I remove that Portable App copy first?
21:17:11 <Simeon> you can close the C: menu
21:17:17 <Simeon> but you dont have to.
21:20:05 <pa_6481> I just used Explorer to go to K: It loaded the installer.
21:20:14 <Simeon> great.
21:22:35 <pa_6481> Why is that great? I already have PortableApps installed on K: I used it to write a sociology thesis last semester. In my ignorance, I am concerned that I might somehow loose what I have if I reinstall. Do I need to reinstall each time I use Portable Apps on a new machine? I don't remember doing that before.
21:23:14 <Simeon> You install it once to a drive and then click it/run it.
21:24:18 <Simeon> so after you've installed it, you run the platform and use the programms.
21:24:41 <pa_6481> That is what I did. Is there a difference between a double click and a single click? I have been double clicking and I get the installer. I don't want to install, I just want the Portable Apps menue to appear.
21:24:59 <Simeon> then you have to click the launcher.
21:26:23 <Simeon> if you installed it to K:/, you get a "StartPortableApps.exe" in the root of the drive.
21:26:28 <pa_6481> I infer that launcher is what I have been referring to as the icon. When I first plug in the portable drive, no launcher appeared. That is what set me off on this adventure.
21:26:41 <Simeon> If you click it, it launches the Menu.
21:28:07 <pa_6481> Yes. I did. And that is what I have be clicking but each time it doesn't launch the menue; it launches the install program. I think we are getting closer to what the operator error is. :-) thank you.
21:28:43 <Simeon> is there a PortableApps folder in the root as the drive.
21:30:23 <pa_6481> Sorry, I don't understand. I will go to "my computer" and look in the root of K: What I have been seeing is just the .ext file
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21:32:13 <pa_6481> I just tried copying all the file names. If this works, here they are:
21:33:11 <pa_6481> It didn't work. Is there a Portable Apps file in the root that doesn't end with .exe? Waht is its name?
21:33:22 <Simeon> one sec
21:35:28 <pa_6481> There is a JStart.exe but I don't think that has anything to do with what we are doing..
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21:38:02 <Simeon> ok Im back.
21:38:50 <Simeon> after you install the Menu to a drive, it has 2 folders in its root (Documents and PortableApps.com) and 2 Files (autorun.inf and PortableApps.com.exe).
21:39:34 <Simeon> do you have this or where did you install the menu to (some people install it in a separate folder for example).
21:39:51 <pa_6481> I just tried to delete the copy I had downloaded to C: The system choke saying that a file name was too long to be deleted. I aborted the delete. I had tried to delete it via the control panel but it didn't list it.
21:40:34 <Simeon> control panel? portable apps dont show up in the software list.
21:41:07 <pa_6481> As you might have inferred from the competance indicated in my comments, I always use the default. I will check for the other names.
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21:41:40 <Simeon> so you do have a folder called PortableApps in your K:/
21:41:49 <Simeon> hi John.
21:42:53 <pa_6481> I have portableapps suite. I don't see the others. As I always use defaults, where else might the other files be?
21:43:30 <Simeon> yes. and the suite is instde the PortableApps folder
21:43:58 <Simeon> all the apps are inside the PortableApps folder normally.
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21:44:24 <pa_6481> Yes. PortableApps.com_Suite_setup_1.6
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21:44:56 <Simeon> thats the installer.
21:45:05 <Simeon> I am talking about a folder.
21:45:45 <Simeon> do you have a folder called PortableApps in the root of your drive?
21:47:01 <pa_6481> OK. That is progress. I don't see any file that looks right. What is the specific name?
21:47:20 <Simeon> its a folder called "PortableApps".
21:47:28 <Simeon> (without the quotes)
21:48:03 <Simeon> You said you already installed it to the portable drive so it should be there somwhere.
21:49:11 <pa_6481> The only Portable App entry is called an 'application'
21:49:29 <Simeon> entry?
21:50:20 <pa_6481> So, might have the file somehow been inadvertantly erased? I can't imagine it being in another folder in that I use default installs.
21:50:47 <Simeon> so there is no folder called PortableApps?
21:51:00 <Simeon> on your external drive.
21:51:44 <pa_6481> If it is erased, is the poper route to take simply to remove my PortaleApp application and reinstall on K;? Would my data still be intact?
21:52:25 <Simeon> if the folder is gone, all your data inside is gone too.
21:52:48 <Simeon> then you'd have to use an undelete tool and try to get your data back.
21:53:25 <Simeon> Is there anyone here willing to take this over as I have to go soon?
21:53:36 <pa_6481> No. I look at each item labled folder
21:53:58 <Simeon> what are the folder names?
21:54:39 <pa_6481> I did go in and move my data files into separate folders for each campus I work on. Perhaps I should return everything back to the root directory?
21:55:10 <Simeon> I dont know as it depends on whats inside the folders.
21:55:28 <Simeon> did you install the menu inside the campus folder?
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21:57:31 <pa_6481> Campus file folder; Recycle bin.Bin folder; Recycled folder; System Volume Information file folder;
21:59:12 <Simeon> what is inside the campus folder?
21:59:41 <Simeon> I am a bit lost here and I have to go now. Sorry.
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22:04:13 <pa_6481> A folder for each campus: HSU, UCSC, SU Inside of those are folders/file for activities related to each campus. How do I deleate the folders without deleting the folders/files within them? I'm thinking that If I return everything to the previous state, the problem might go away. I will just leave the organization issues to Zotero. I can rename files by leading them with something like HSU395_Bios or whatever. Not as slick
22:04:21 <pa_6481> my work.
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22:05:32 <pa_6481> Hello? Anyone out there?
22:07:57 <pa_6481> KindOne_shell: Can you pick up on this exchange? +Simon had to leave. I would like to see if I am heading for trouble with my last comment.
22:09:43 <pa_6481> KindOne_shell: Looks like this isn't going to work. If you chat with +Simeon, please tell him thanks for me.
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22:18:17 <pa_6481> Are you there?
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22:26:01 <of> Hey, Texter's download link says that it takes 1MB installed, the installer says that it requires 5.2MB, and the 53.6MB free on my flash drive aren't enough for it to finish installing.
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22:47:23 <of> Anyway, I'm leaving, I just though I'd let someone know.
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23:03:41 <pa_9008> I know that the portable apps menu will doscover and launch apps that are now in the suite. However, I've got an app I'd like to run that doesn't like being launched from the PA menu. It gives me a path not found. Is there anyway similar to windows shortcuts in that you can tell the menu shortcut to launch the app the folder the app is located it?
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23:05:27 <kAlug> pa_9008: maybe you could use a batch file
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23:08:49 <ChrisMorgan> pa_9008: the problem is probably working directory
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23:18:13 <pa_9008> Oops I meant to say not in the suite.
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23:19:21 <pa_9008> Oh well sionara
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23:24:04 <Gizmokid2005> Sorry about the noise ya'll
23:24:10 <Gizmokid2005> erm *y'all
23:26:18 <mrmcpowned> lol
23:26:38 <mrmcpowned> Looks like ya bot died
23:28:23 <Gizmokid2005> I killed it purposefully
23:30:46 <mrmcpowned> Ah
23:30:49 <mrmcpowned> Whys that?
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23:32:54 <Gizmokid2005> moving servers
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23:36:55 <mrmcpowned> Ah
23:41:00 <D_D> GizmoBot!
23:41:07 <D_D> ...
23:41:41 <mrmcpowned> lol
23:42:04 <mrmcpowned> What purpose does gizmobot server ehre anyway?
23:42:07 <mrmcpowned> here*
23:42:41 * mrmcpowned really want to be an ircop :)
23:42:43 <mrmcpowned> :D
23:43:31 <mrmcpowned> Hmm, seems auscompgeek has been active lately
23:43:33 <Gizmokid2005> he's a useful resource to help with support, etc.
23:43:40 <mrmcpowned> Ah\
23:44:04 <Gizmokid2005> and if you want to be an ircop, I suggest you sit in #freenode very very very often.
23:44:12 <Gizmokid2005> and learn everything you can about freenode itself
23:46:26 <mrmcpowned> Heh, yeah
23:46:34 <mrmcpowned> I know the basidc function
23:46:46 <mrmcpowned> But i gues sbeing an irc op here wouldnt be that easy
23:46:49 <mrmcpowned> guess*
23:47:44 <Gizmokid2005> nope
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