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01:02:28 <pa_0328> I know you guys probably get this all the time.. but. How the hell do I install an app on my flash drive?
01:02:45 <mrmcpowned> Lol
01:02:52 <mrmcpowned> SHould be under the menu
01:03:04 <pa_0328> The menu of the computer I'm on..
01:03:05 <mrmcpowned> Where it says to install an app
01:03:06 <pa_0328> ?
01:03:12 <mrmcpowned> Portable Apps menu
01:03:17 <pa_0328> We'd have to start from the beginning.
01:03:30 <pa_0328> So I have to go to the site from the attached computer?
01:03:44 <mrmcpowned> Well, to start
01:03:51 <mrmcpowned> Is portable apps installed on your drive?
01:04:02 <mrmcpowned> If so, please start it up :D
01:04:16 <pa_0328> I guess it isn't?
01:04:38 <pa_0328> I downloaded several other things from the website but nothing entitled 'portable apps'
01:04:57 <mrmcpowned> Ah, then you need ot download the suite
01:05:00 <mrmcpowned> to*
01:05:07 <mrmcpowned> Excude my ugly typos :P
01:05:17 <pa_0328> It's alright. Gimme a sec!
01:05:23 <mrmcpowned> Heh, sure
01:05:33 <mrmcpowned> Also, rememebr to backup any info you have on your drive
01:12:05 <pa_0328> !!!
01:12:10 <pa_0328> I've got it. :D
01:12:13 <mrmcpowned> lol
01:12:20 <mrmcpowned> Ok, so its installed and running?
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01:13:41 <Newb> >_> I'm back, sorry.
01:14:00 <Newb> As I was saying. I downloaded the standard package and so it has some pre-loaded apps.
01:14:08 <Newb> How do I go about getting others installed with it now?
01:14:08 <mrmcpowned> Yup
01:14:13 <mrmcpowned> Press options
01:14:17 <Newb> Roger.
01:14:17 <mrmcpowned> AN a menu should pop up
01:14:28 <mrmcpowned> There should be an install ap option
01:14:31 <mrmcpowned> app*
01:15:53 <mrmcpowned> Then an open dialogue should open
01:16:11 <Newb> FFF. I GOT IT.
01:16:12 <mrmcpowned> And just select the paf.exe you downloaded and bam, installer should sart :)
01:16:12 <Newb> XDD
01:16:16 <Newb> THANKS, MAN.
01:16:20 <mrmcpowned> No proble m;)
01:16:24 <mrmcpowned> heh
01:16:31 <mrmcpowned> Hapy portabling :P
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01:16:52 <Newb> Hm.
01:17:03 <Newb> Mine aren't working. They start up but can't load all the way.
01:17:10 <Newb> Open Office portable and such, I mean.
01:17:47 <mrmcpowned> Hmm
01:17:55 <mrmcpowned> Sure it installed correctly?
01:18:19 <Newb> I downloaded the standard package, so the download went smoothly?
01:18:31 <mrmcpowned> Well, if no error spewed out, i guess so
01:19:52 <Newb> I'm running Window's Solution Finder.
01:20:21 <mrmcpowned> Well, whats the error when you start Open Office?
01:21:07 <mrmcpowned> or is it that it just stays stuck loading?
01:27:55 <Newb> It gets stuck loading and then it gives me an error window and doesn't respond.
01:28:13 <mrmcpowned> Hmm
01:28:21 <mrmcpowned> Have you triend on a different pc?
01:28:25 <mrmcpowned> tried*
01:28:27 <Newb> Not yet.
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02:50:49 <ZachThibeau> howdy John
02:51:02 <mrmcpowned> Ohai
02:51:28 <JohnTHaller> Hola
02:51:33 <mrmcpowned> :D
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02:51:52 <ZachThibeau> I just found out Banshee has finally gotten a windows port in alpha
02:52:02 <JohnTHaller> Unfamiliar
02:52:08 <ZachThibeau> still requires .net or mono but it's not bad app
02:52:15 <ZachThibeau> banshee is a media player commonly found in linux
02:52:33 <ZachThibeau> one of the only c# apps I've come to respect
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03:15:35 <JohnTHaller> Today's new app is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-02-23_-_system_explorer_portable_1.0.1_released
03:19:13 <Alley^Away> Nice... I regularly use SIW thou, does SI have any advantages over that?
03:19:32 <Alley^Away> s/SI/SEp*
03:20:02 <JohnTHaller> never used it
03:20:05 <JohnTHaller> for one, it's free
03:20:32 <JohnTHaller> This isn't the same thing
03:20:41 <JohnTHaller> It's for analyzing running processes mostly, I think
03:21:38 <JohnTHaller> as well as IE addons. uninstallations. etc
03:21:45 <Alley^Away> hehe ok, I might give ita spin and see for myself. I got a few minor issues with SIW, but to me it's still what Total Commander is for file managers, if not perfect then at least the very closest thing
03:21:55 <Alley^Away> oh ok
03:21:56 <JohnTHaller> Only 2MB download. I think they complement each other
03:22:21 <JohnTHaller> This doesn't do software or hardware inventory typs stuff.
03:22:25 <Alley^Away> sounds very tempting, may be just what I need
03:23:45 <mrmcpowned> lol
03:25:02 <JohnTHaller> MOAR APPSSS!11!!!
03:25:30 <Alley^Away> well, apart from some simple type of benchmarker / system restart timer
03:28:50 <mrmcpowned> Lul
03:29:16 <Alley^Away> JohnTHaller: any reason the PortableApps.com_AutoRun_Test_NoGUI_0.1.exe isn't made official? I'm a bit hard pressed to come up with extra features - it's almost the perfect app for hardcore PA-fans/-users
03:30:06 <Alley^Away> only thing at all would have it scan for already-plugged in drives with PA.c in root I guess
03:32:19 <JohnTHaller> I'm gonna add a couple bits to it for official release still.
03:32:29 <Alley^Away> ...and even that's kinda bloat, thou I often restart with a drive in the hub... it's windows afterall lol
03:33:12 <JohnTHaller> If you keep a drive plugged in, it'll have a consistent drive letter and you can stick a shortcut to it in Windows' Startup folder
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03:37:22 <Alley^Away> hmmm, ok... you sure? Using win7 x64, have 2 pa.c drive I use on/off.. normal letters are H, I... today I plugged in a microSD card reader first, that got H first
03:38:03 <Alley^Away> ah well, may just be my system, did the SP1 today, I'm told that may reset some stuff
03:39:53 <Alley^Away> darn, just came up with another PortableApps.com_AutoRun_Test_NoGUI_0.1.exe feature request, a "/persistent" switch
03:43:05 <JohnTHaller> pesistent?
03:43:10 <JohnTHaller> per, I mean
03:43:40 <Alley^Away> or 'keep-alive', may be better
03:43:57 <JohnTHaller> purpose?
03:44:17 <Alley^Away> so it keeps running, allowing it to also start the next stick plugged in
03:44:32 <JohnTHaller> It does already
03:44:37 <JohnTHaller> It stays running indefinitely
03:44:48 <JohnTHaller> But if you plug in a hub with multiple drives, it'll probably only get the first one
03:46:07 <Alley^Away> ah, that may well be why
03:46:37 * Alley^Away crawls back under his android-flashing-stone for the night
03:46:40 <Alley^Away> thanks!
03:55:38 <JohnTHaller> gnight !
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04:29:37 <JohnTHaller> alright, to bed before midnight. gnight all
04:30:24 <mrmcpowned> night
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05:41:40 <Kiriko> brb im switching my os back windows
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08:55:58 <TaffinFoxcroft> HM NIS Edit Update: http://portableapps.com/node/13990
08:56:08 <kiriko> cool
08:57:07 <kiriko> lol nice comment about #13
08:59:52 <TaffinFoxcroft> heh, who says changelogs have to be boring? :P
09:00:01 <kiriko> XD
09:00:35 <kiriko> I also see that you changed the Installation folder name
09:00:50 <kiriko> Why not keep it NISEdit
09:00:52 <kiriko> ?
09:03:01 <TaffinFoxcroft> John said it had a pretty good chance of going official and wanted it to use HM NIS Edit Portable instead
09:03:28 <kiriko> ah ok and grats :D
09:03:43 <TaffinFoxcroft> lol Why thank you :P
09:04:12 <kiriko> so ill tell you ill be using this now from on :P
09:04:20 <TaffinFoxcroft> Do you like it?
09:04:52 <kiriko> i do, the only real reson that i have not used it is that the original project is dead
09:06:38 <TaffinFoxcroft> Yeah, I'm kinda hoping that someone will pick it up and keep it up to date
09:08:03 <kiriko> it has to be someone that knows Delphi :\
09:08:38 <sar3th> delphi5, hm
09:08:43 <kiriko> yea
09:08:56 <sar3th> are there any known bugs/todo-lists?
09:09:14 <kiriko> let me check
09:09:30 <TaffinFoxcroft> Under vista/7 the "compile and run" only compiles, then throws an error about missing files even though they're there
09:09:50 <TaffinFoxcroft> And the syntax files may be slightly out of date
09:10:20 <TaffinFoxcroft> Wait nevermind, I updated them already :P
09:10:31 <kiriko> then they have to be updated and slightly modify so that the can be read properly by vista and win7
09:10:43 <kiriko> lol
09:11:11 <TaffinFoxcroft> modified? What do you mean by that?
09:12:41 <kiriko> well some files are not compatible with vista and win 7 but i have to say im not an expert or a programer, i just know that there are files that win7 and vista have problems reading
09:13:09 <kiriko> you have to find someone that knows Delphi5 to figuer this out :\
09:14:09 <TaffinFoxcroft> Hmmm, never had any problems with the stuff I've thrown at it, both unicode and ansi including the config files
09:14:12 <TaffinFoxcroft> ah well, bbl
09:14:30 <kiriko> wait a sec there is a page in sourceforge that says it was last updated 2010-02-27
09:14:36 <kiriko> http://sourceforge.net/projects/hmne/
09:16:03 <sar3th> hm, last update i can see was 7 years ago
09:16:22 <kiriko> no no check the link i sent you
09:21:36 <sar3th> must be unrelated to the source code, as i said the last update was 7 years ago
09:21:47 <kiriko> ok
09:22:37 <kiriko> nvm what i found is the src code but it says that its last updated 2010-02-27
09:23:40 <sar3th> link?
09:23:54 <kiriko> http://sourceforge.net/projects/hmne/files/HM%20NIS%20Edit/2.0.3/nisedit203-src.zip/download
09:24:24 <sar3th> nisedit203-src.zip 2005-03-28
09:25:40 <sar3th> one problem is that it requires a third-party component that doesn't want to compile :S
09:26:32 <kiriko> what is that missing component
09:27:41 <sar3th> http://hmne.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/hmne/hmne/ not even in the repository the source files have been updated, so that "latest update" date must be refering to something else, probably project properties
09:28:02 <kiriko> hmm...
09:29:19 <kiriko> that just sucks :(
09:33:03 <TaffinFoxcroft> Yeah :(
09:33:56 <kiriko> Hey sar3th you know Delphi programing right?
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09:44:34 <TaffinFoxcroft> Hello ChrisMorgan
09:44:38 <ChrisMorgan> Hey TaffinFoxcroft
09:44:53 <kiriko> hey Chris! :D
09:45:08 * TaffinFoxcroft tips his monocle like a fancy man.
09:45:15 <ChrisMorgan> gleetings unto all lest I be busy responding for the next N+5 minutes
09:45:33 <kiriko> np :)
09:45:59 <ChrisMorgan> Any questions for me, either of you, or are you just being sociable?
09:46:11 <TaffinFoxcroft> Just sociable :P
09:49:19 <ChrisMorgan> kiriko: a few days ago you asked me if I had any ideas for your development kit; my answer for that is I've still never tried it at all.
09:49:33 <kiriko> ah
09:50:40 <kiriko> i know John said they are working on making one as well, do you know how the progres on that is goin?
09:57:05 <ChrisMorgan> That's my project, PortableApps.com Development Toolkit (and I had that name quite some time before you did yours)
09:57:30 <ChrisMorgan> I haven't got to work on it for quite some time, in a week or two I should get round to an alpha release (I said that a couple of months ago...)
09:57:45 <TaffinFoxcroft> Don't worry, we all operate on Valve time here
09:58:03 <kiriko> ah
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10:02:24 <kiriko> you know that is the same as when you tell someone that you have a great idea for something you can make money out of, and in the nex few days your home watchin tv and what do you know they are selling that great idea that you just told your frind the other day
10:02:35 <kiriko> friend*
10:05:42 <ChrisMorgan> kiriko: ours run along quite different lines, though; yours is mainly a compilation of apps to help you do it, mine is a single app to manage the whole process
10:05:57 <ChrisMorgan> And I would never be in that situation. We don't have a TV at home. A good thing.
10:06:10 <kiriko> lol
10:07:18 <kiriko> i like that idea of having one app better than using so many
10:08:59 <TaffinFoxcroft> You don't have tv? why?
10:09:53 <ChrisMorgan> TaffinFoxcroft: you have TV? Why?
10:10:23 <TaffinFoxcroft> Because it's used to supply news and comedic entertainment to the entire family?
10:11:46 <ChrisMorgan> News: if you wish it, you can get it online or on the radio. Personally I don't really bother with it at all. And as for entertainment - however did families survive before TV?
10:12:17 <ChrisMorgan> I believe that there is no need for TV; moreover, I believe it is destructive and unhealthy.
10:13:28 <kiriko> if you are going to look at a tv in that way then a computer is no diferent
10:14:01 <ChrisMorgan> kiriko: and I think that to a large degree on that point you're right.
10:14:28 <TaffinFoxcroft> Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying TV is the only source for stuff, but it does make it a fair bit more accessible. There's no dedicated news radio station where I live, and my internet's incredibly slow so videos tend to take their time to load, and I like visual stimuli with my news. Yeah, there's entertainment before TV but it is rather good to be able to sit down with your family and watch a movie together, w
10:14:28 <TaffinFoxcroft> hich is something we do a fair bit
10:14:46 <TaffinFoxcroft> And yeah, computers aren't too far off
10:17:58 <ChrisMorgan> Most families don't have enough people or a reasonable sized back garden or nearby park to play a good game of soccer or cricket... we like doing this in the evenings in summer, good fun.
10:18:03 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Personal choices. One shouldn't need to justify (not) using either a computer or a TV.
10:18:44 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Computer is my choice: I don't have a TV either.
10:19:29 <kiriko> you know we should just be glad that we have good maners and that we each use what we have for the best and not the worst :D
10:20:38 <TaffinFoxcroft> True :P
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12:33:29 <kiriko> ChrisMorgan: I need a fave, can you help me with this if so plz send me a pm
12:33:43 <ChrisMorgan> kiriko: with what?
12:34:19 <kiriko> I need your personal opinion with a deal that i am trying to make with a company
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12:40:30 <kiriko> this is the company http://www.coffeecup.com/
12:46:10 <ChrisMorgan> Sorry, I'm off to bed now
12:46:40 <kiriko> ok np :D
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16:43:38 <WifiWombat> hehe
16:44:29 <kiriko> wifiwonbat: Grats! XD
16:44:45 <WifiWombat> thanks
16:45:04 <WifiWombat> but I've been an op for awhile now :)
16:45:20 <kiriko> lol
16:54:45 <WifiWombat> [modified 2 years, 14 weeks, 3 days, 21:53:01 ago]
16:54:47 <WifiWombat> :)
16:55:18 <kiriko> nice :D
16:55:46 <kiriko> wow you realy went back in the log files XD
16:57:02 <WifiWombat> nope, just checked the flags :)
16:57:12 <kiriko> ah
16:57:17 <WifiWombat> I'm lazy
16:57:29 <kiriko> :D
17:05:30 <kiriko> ok im out guys see you later
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17:14:04 <BenMcLean> Hey people
17:14:14 <BenMcLean> I need to do some linux programming for an operating systems class
17:14:24 <BenMcLean> trobule is, I don't have a linux computer to do it on
17:14:33 <BenMcLean> need to use university windows computers that I don't get admin privileges to
17:14:41 <BenMcLean> so i need to get a virtual machine
17:15:03 <BenMcLean> but dunno how to get one that doesn't require administrative privileges
17:15:05 <BenMcLean> anybody know?
17:16:23 <WifiWombat> you can't, sorry
17:16:43 <WifiWombat> the best you might do is something called QEMU
17:16:54 <WifiWombat> do you know if you can boot off of a USB drive?
17:17:20 <BenMcLean> nah can't boot off usb drive
17:17:46 <BenMcLean> surely somebody somewhere has a portable QEMU and a linux install virtual machine image
17:18:02 <WifiWombat> well, QEMU is natively portable (I think)
17:18:11 <WifiWombat> but its not PAF'd.
17:21:24 <BenMcLean> yeah doesn't need to be PAF'd
17:21:47 <WifiWombat> try QEMU, it doesn't have to have admin privs to work, but it will be terribly slow
17:21:57 <WifiWombat> do you not have a laptop or something?
17:21:58 <BenMcLean> PAFification is nice, I have nothing against it, but i think it's important to distinguish between a portable app and a PAFd app. PAF'd apps are a subset of portable apps
17:22:04 <BenMcLean> not a decent one
17:22:21 <WifiWombat> is there a reason you don't have linux on it?
17:22:26 <BenMcLean> i really really really need a laptop really
17:22:31 <BenMcLean> but i has no moneys
17:22:38 <WifiWombat> I fully understand
17:22:47 <WifiWombat> I was going to suggest dual booting your laptop
17:22:54 <BenMcLean> This looks promising http://www.erikveen.dds.nl/qemupuppy/
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20:11:04 <Kiriko> hi guys!
20:12:15 <OliverK> hola
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22:48:18 <Kiriko> good night everyone
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