IRC Log from 2011-02-28
00:00:05 <pa_7331> it works fine in my other computer though
00:00:10 <pa_7331> why does it get worse?
00:02:06 <pa_7331> ?
00:03:10 <pa_7331> if i format my flash drive to ntfs will it be faster?
00:03:24 <mrmcpowned> No
00:03:30 <mrmcpowned> It also depends on port speeds
00:03:49 <mrmcpowned> Probably one of your computers is using USB2.0 and the other one is using USB1.0
00:04:25 <pa_7331> well thank you
00:04:31 <mrmcpowned> No problem
00:04:44 <mrmcpowned> Also, ntfs is a windows storage system format
00:04:59 <mrmcpowned> Portable drives are to be kept as FAT for universal convernience
00:05:07 <mrmcpowned> convenience*
00:05:57 *** JEnglish has quit (Quit: Leaving)
00:07:53 <gluxon> mrmcpowned: No, FAT32 I believe is faster than NTFS.
00:08:13 <mrmcpowned> That wasnt my point though
00:08:27 <mrmcpowned> If you format a portable drive to NTFS it becomes useless
00:08:41 <gluxon> Not useless.
00:08:47 <mrmcpowned> PArtialy useless
00:08:53 <mrmcpowned> Becasue youre limited to windows
00:08:56 <gluxon> FAT32 isn't used on drives since it has a capacity limit.
00:08:58 <mrmcpowned> Because*
00:09:15 *** pa_7331 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
00:09:47 <mrmcpowned> gluxon: But FAT32 is a universal format that's read upon many different systems.
00:09:59 <gluxon> True :-/
00:10:39 <mrmcpowned> If you format your portable drive to NTFS youre limited to using it on windows as no other system would recognize it.
00:11:03 <mrmcpowned> :)
00:12:18 * mrmcpowned loves making simple edits to html files for 5 bucks
00:13:00 <gluxon> ... I do too.. but I can't :'(
00:13:10 <DannyMuniz> well im out
00:13:12 <gluxon> Actually, I'm helping a friend with HTML now.. so
00:13:17 *** DannyMuniz has quit (Quit: Leaving)
00:13:27 <mrmcpowned> gluxon: Nice :D
00:13:33 <mrmcpowned> Html is simple :P
00:13:56 <mrmcpowned> php gets me sometimes though, heh
00:15:46 <gluxon> PHP is simple :P
00:15:53 <mrmcpowned> lol
00:15:55 <gluxon> JavaScript is what gets me.. since I barely know it.
00:15:56 <mrmcpowned> Speaking pf which
00:16:15 <mrmcpowned> I managed to fix my whmcs cart template a bit :D
00:16:21 <gluxon> A lot of people would probably disaggree with me, saying PHP is harder than JavaScript.
00:16:31 <mrmcpowned> gluxon: There kinda the same
00:16:44 <gluxon> Completely different functions though :-/
00:16:45 <mrmcpowned> in terms of complexity
00:16:51 <mrmcpowned> :D
00:17:00 <mrmcpowned> Though, they both use variables :P
00:18:20 *** kai_62656 (~kai_62656@unaffiliated/kai-62656/x-7765177) has joined #portableapps
00:23:14 *** Alley^Away has quit (Quit: Work- or sleeptime. Damn how that stuff interferes with my free time. *Miranda-IM rules*)
00:25:12 *** pa_5177 (ad3cd5c6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.60.213.198) has joined #portableapps
00:25:21 <mrmcpowned> Hi pa_5177
00:26:18 <pa_5177> Can someone help with this? I know it has to be simple, but how does one remove an application from the menu and drive? Thanks
00:26:27 <pa_5177> hi, btw
00:26:34 <mrmcpowned> :)
00:26:53 <mrmcpowned> I thin you can right click the program in the launcher and select to unisntall
00:27:00 <mrmcpowned> Least the beta version did that
00:27:16 <gluxon> Or if you're on 1.6, you just delete the folder the application is installed to.
00:27:33 <mrmcpowned> gluxon: How far is teh beta from being stable?
00:27:36 <pa_5177> you are right, and so was I, it IS simple, thank you so much.
00:27:36 <mrmcpowned> the*
00:28:18 <gluxon> mrmcpowned: The list of bugs are over here -> http://portableapps.com/node/24258
00:28:36 <gluxon> None of them are serious, so I would consider the Beta to be extremely stable.
00:28:43 *** pa_5177 has quit (Client Quit)
00:28:53 <mrmcpowned> :)
00:31:07 *** gluxon is now known as gluxon|gone
00:50:51 *** marlop|away is now known as marlop
00:56:54 *** htbrdd1_ has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
01:05:48 *** gluxon|gone has parted #portableapps (None)
01:10:14 *** ptmb has quit (Quit: Leaving)
01:11:45 *** agdurrette|AFK has quit (Quit: Leaving)
02:04:23 *** gluxon (~DSi@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
02:21:18 *** marlop is now known as marlop|away
02:32:17 *** kai_62656 has quit (Quit: Leaving)
02:41:02 *** gluxon has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
03:43:46 *** mrmcpowned has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.86-rdmsoft [XULRunner 1.9.1/20090707221522])
03:45:03 *** mrmcpowned (~meh@unaffiliated/sh-chris) has joined #portableapps
03:49:43 *** OliverK has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
04:18:07 *** pa_3054 (62e7490a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.231.73.10) has joined #portableapps
04:18:11 <pa_3054> Hey!
04:20:40 *** pa_3054 has quit (Client Quit)
04:21:25 *** pa_5304 (62e7490a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.231.73.10) has joined #portableapps
04:24:51 <pa_5304> Anyone here?
04:32:05 *** pa_5304 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
04:49:28 *** Tapionp (~daryl@c-174-60-71-150.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
04:53:03 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-98-14-114-27.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps
04:53:20 <JohnTHaller> hola
04:57:11 *** SrgSiler|AFK is now known as SergentSiler
04:58:33 <mrmcpowned> Hey :D
04:58:55 <mrmcpowned> Whats todays new app? :P
05:03:48 *** Tapionp has quit (Quit: Leaving)
05:08:47 *** pa_2031 (62e7490a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.231.73.10) has joined #portableapps
05:14:11 *** superboyian (~superboyi@unaffiliated/superboyian) has joined #portableapps
05:14:44 <pa_2031> Hello?
05:15:00 <JohnTHaller> pa_2031: Hello. How can we help you
05:15:26 <pa_2031> Syncing
05:15:43 <pa_2031> To sych chrome settings, its all based on your google account, right?
05:16:15 <superboyian> Well, it should be.
05:16:39 <superboyian> I'm not too certain about chrome though because I don't use it that often
05:21:59 *** pa_2031 has quit (Quit: Page closed)
05:24:02 *** pa_2203 (62e7490a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.231.73.10) has joined #portableapps
05:24:36 <pa_2203> Hey John, I'd buy a branded flash drive, depending on the price. Just like the Ubuntu drives.
05:24:44 <pa_2203> Thought I should let you know.
05:25:31 <JohnTHaller> I know. The thing is drives are so cheap now that we'd have to price them pretty far above what they cost at, say, Staples, in order for it to be worth it to us.
05:28:48 <pa_2203> It would also depend on how big of a drive. I currently have everything installed on a drive and it takes up 7 GB
05:29:26 <pa_2203> Then again, this includes 4 versions of Chrome, 2 office suites, etc.
05:29:33 <mrmcpowned> JohnTHaller: branders.com does bulk orders for stuff like that
05:29:52 <mrmcpowned> Plus, like their name states, they brank it for you :P
05:29:56 <mrmcpowned> brand*
05:30:07 *** Scriptdaemon (~KennyW@139.182.23.153) has joined #portableapps
05:30:59 <pa_2203> And having them preloaded would be a nice touch
05:31:03 <JohnTHaller> We've been using CustomUSB with good luck. It doesn't matter who you use as the pricing is pretty much the same.
05:31:18 <mrmcpowned> :)
05:31:43 <JohnTHaller> The problem is that sourcing an 8GB drive, branded and pre-loaded costs about as much as most people expect to pay on sale at Staples for a drive. That's excluding shipping and us making any money.
05:32:38 <pa_2203> You could cut the BG down a lot since the 8GB includes a lot of apps that all do the same thing (office suites, web browsers, finance, media players, etc.)
05:32:39 <mrmcpowned> Hmm, sounds cheaper to simply donate
05:32:44 <pa_2203> GB*
05:34:13 *** sar3th|away has quit (Ping timeout: 250 seconds)
05:36:25 <JohnTHaller> It's kinda the same thing with any size. Most flash drives the margin is insanely small (cents), so people expect to pay next to nothing for them
05:36:42 *** marlop|away has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
05:47:27 *** pa_2203 has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
05:52:50 *** TaffinFoxcroft (~hypnotoad@CPE-58-168-50-229.lns8.cht.bigpond.net.au) has joined #portableapps
05:53:10 <TaffinFoxcroft> Hello all who are awake
05:53:33 <JohnTHaller> hola
05:57:33 <TaffinFoxcroft> hmmm, looks like Pyromaniac's found a problem nis edit itself...
06:06:48 <JohnTHaller> It happens
06:07:36 <Scriptdaemon> Taffin needs voice btw.
06:08:00 <JohnTHaller> I know. I can't remember how to do it permanently
06:08:10 <JohnTHaller> And I am currently coding
06:12:25 <JohnTHaller> I know how to do it for right now.
06:19:42 <TaffinFoxcroft> Ah cool, forgot about voice
06:36:13 <JohnTHaller> Today's new app is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-02-27_-_cdex_portable_1.7_beta_2_released
06:37:55 *** Scriptdaemon has quit (Quit: Politeness, n. The most acceptable hypocrisy.)
06:39:30 *** pa_1598 (cbab4331@gateway/web/freenode/ip.203.171.67.49) has joined #portableapps
06:40:13 <pa_1598> Hi Guys, is there any cheduled release date for PA 2.0? Im really in need of a Categories feature thats said to be included in this release
06:41:01 <JohnTHaller> It'll be released in the beta very soon now. Best recommendation is to use Favorites for now (as most users don't use more than 20 apps regularly) so they all show up at the top.
06:41:49 <JohnTHaller> It'll be a 1.9 / 2.0 Beta 6 combined release. The updater is going 'stable'. The beta features like categories are enabled by checking a single box.
06:43:48 <pa_1598> It's more of an aesthetic thing for me... I dont need to see all of Open Offices applications in the main launcher window
06:44:14 <pa_1598> For now i'll just hide them and await the newer release
06:44:21 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. You can actually right-click and hide all the others. OOo and LO both have a solid picker that comes up and lets you pick the app you want.
06:44:36 <JohnTHaller> I've been debating just showing the main launcher to simplify things. We shall see.
06:45:13 <JohnTHaller> Or just favorite the main launcher and the other apps you use most. Even when we add categories, favorites can be used in conjunction with them and will later be more easily accessible as well :)
06:45:28 <pa_1598> Yeah im familiar with the way OO works. Sounds like good things to come :)
06:45:39 <pa_1598> Im new to PA, and i already couldnt live without it
06:46:21 <pa_1598> So thanks for you good work guys :)
06:46:48 <JohnTHaller> You're welcome. Just wait, you ain't seen nothing yet :D
06:47:04 <pa_1598> Hahah thats good to hear!
06:48:04 *** pa_1598 has quit (Quit: Page closed)
06:55:38 <JohnTHaller> Today's release thins out the "ready for release" thread a bit more, too. 5 left from 2009. 2 from 2010.
06:55:47 <JohnTHaller> 4 from 2010 I mean
06:58:52 <TaffinFoxcroft> Cool as
08:09:02 *** DannyMuniz (~Kiriko@unaffiliated/kiriko) has joined #portableapps
08:11:23 <DannyMuniz> hey John, you are up late. :)
08:11:50 <JohnTHaller> yeah. waiting on sleeping pill to kick in
08:12:03 <DannyMuniz> ah
08:23:29 <JohnTHaller> alright, gnight all
08:23:37 *** JohnTHaller has parted #portableapps (None)
08:23:37 <DannyMuniz> night
08:40:15 <DannyMuniz> can any one tell me how to set my name on my channel as a permanent operator
08:55:06 <TaffinFoxcroft> DannyMuniz: /msg Chanserv help flags
08:55:23 *** pa_2306 (ca81d405@gateway/web/freenode/ip.202.129.212.5) has joined #portableapps
08:55:59 <DannyMuniz> thank you
09:00:58 <TaffinFoxcroft> np
09:01:54 <pa_2306> i want to install xampp in my usb - can someone guide me to web pages which show me how to do it
09:02:23 <DannyMuniz> http://portableapps.com/apps/development/xampp
09:02:53 <pa_2306> Thnaks a lot - will check out the site ..great!
09:03:05 <DannyMuniz> :D
09:03:22 *** superboyian has quit (Quit: Leaving)
09:08:36 <pa_2306> danny ..i am reffering to the link and there is a section - "I want to start XAMPP without setup" where in it says u can unzip into the usb and it says"Not using the setup script, or selecting relative paths in the setup script, is preferred if you are installing XAMPP on a usb drive. Because on each pc such a drive can have an other drive letter. You can switch from absolute to relative paths at any time with the setup script.
09:11:32 <DannyMuniz> ok you want to do this form your usb drive?
09:11:43 <DannyMuniz> right?
09:13:40 <DannyMuniz> if so you should use the portable launcher http://downloads.sourceforge.net/portableapps/XAMPP_1.4.paf.exe?download
09:29:21 *** pa_2306 has quit (Quit: Page closed)
09:32:09 <DannyMuniz> well i hope he followed the instructions on hpw use Xampp
09:34:01 <DannyMuniz> how*
10:07:53 *** sar3th (sar3th@gateway/shell/shellium.org/x-kgkonxohvcicfbhj) has joined #portableapps
10:11:13 *** marlop (marlop@gateway/shell/shellium.org/x-ipayzhzzhgaxjhkb) has joined #portableapps
10:34:10 *** michaela (~Michaela@port-195-158-140-92.static.isionline-dialin.de) has joined #portableapps
10:34:45 *** michaela has parted #portableapps (None)
10:37:11 *** TaffinFoxcroft has quit (Quit: Leaving)
10:53:01 *** DannyMuniz has quit (Quit: Leaving)
10:53:36 <sar3th> mrmcpowned: these days, almost any linux distro will read ntfs by default
10:53:56 <sar3th> apart from that, fat32 lacks a journal which makes it more robust against failures
11:04:26 *** mrmcpowned has quit (Quit: *poof*)
11:19:13 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps
12:22:55 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps
12:26:36 *** ChrisMorgan has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
13:51:12 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps
13:53:36 *** rcmaehl has quit (Quit: Meh)
14:18:43 *** DannyMuniz (~Kiriko@c-76-119-69-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
14:18:46 *** DannyMuniz has quit (Changing host)
14:18:46 *** DannyMuniz (~Kiriko@unaffiliated/kiriko) has joined #portableapps
14:43:03 *** agdurrette (~agdurrett@unaffiliated/agdurrette) has joined #portableapps
14:51:53 *** DannyMuniz has quit (Quit: Leaving)
15:05:27 *** pa_5897 (7076a55a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.112.118.165.90) has joined #portableapps
15:06:58 *** pa_5897 has quit (Client Quit)
16:17:44 *** pa_9918 (600b44e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.11.68.230) has joined #portableapps
16:20:11 *** pa_9918 has parted #portableapps (None)
16:22:10 *** DannyMuniz (~Kiriko@c-76-119-69-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
16:22:10 *** DannyMuniz has quit (Changing host)
16:22:10 *** DannyMuniz (~Kiriko@unaffiliated/kiriko) has joined #portableapps
16:24:47 *** pa_3642 (600b44e6@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.11.68.230) has joined #portableapps
16:25:26 <pa_3642> i cannot login
16:26:04 <pa_3642> i created an account and have requested a new password several times but with no success
16:27:43 *** pa_3642 is now known as cralford
16:32:20 <DannyMuniz> cralford: ar eyou refedring to PA.c or IRC chat?
16:32:42 <DannyMuniz> are you*
16:34:46 <cralford> portable app registration
16:34:52 <DannyMuniz> ah
16:35:02 <DannyMuniz> you have to check your e-mail
16:35:53 <cralford> been there and followed the url. entered password twice and it said it was a strong password
16:36:16 <cralford> logged out and cannot get back in
16:36:43 <cralford> tried this cycle 3 times
16:36:48 <DannyMuniz> I do belive that it is case sensitive
16:37:03 <cralford> requesting a new password
16:37:17 <cralford> case is correct
16:37:44 <cralford> f1M17RQ#c was my last attempt
16:38:37 <DannyMuniz> sorry im not a staff member so i cant with new password or anything like that i can only give you advice
16:39:13 <cralford> i am wondering if i mistyped my userid and how I would find out what i entered for my original userid
16:39:26 <DannyMuniz> give that a try
16:40:17 <DannyMuniz> i do suggest that you use KeypassPortable http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/keepass_portable
16:40:24 <cralford> i am not sure how to find the original username. i thought that it was the same as my nickname on here
16:40:35 <DannyMuniz> no
16:41:02 <DannyMuniz> ok check the email that you get when you first register
16:41:11 <DannyMuniz> all the information is in there
16:43:45 <cralford> I do not see my username in there. just the urls to complete the process
16:43:58 <benedikt93> cralford, maybe wait for JohnTHaller to come by. He's the founder and as such also admin of PA.c. So he'll be the one who can help you.
16:44:05 <cralford> It refers to me by my full name Charles Alford
16:44:43 <DannyMuniz> yea i think that you are going to have to wait for JohnTHaller...
16:45:30 <cralford> ok, thanks for all your help. This should be pretty simple unless I did a typo on my userid :(
16:46:19 <DannyMuniz> don't weary it will get sort it soon. So don't mad be glad! XD
16:46:53 <cralford> will do :)
16:47:23 <DannyMuniz> And by the way, Welcome To PortableApps.com
16:47:45 <DannyMuniz> :)
16:47:51 <cralford> Thanks, I love it so far
16:47:58 <DannyMuniz> :D
16:55:33 <sar3th> john will be able to help you, he can find out what username is associated with your email, so best is to ask him that :)
16:58:51 <cralford> Is John likely gone for the day? I notice his first login was pretty early.
16:59:10 <DannyMuniz> no he is in and out
16:59:16 <DannyMuniz> he has alot to do
16:59:45 <cralford> Thanks, I will just hang around for an hour or so
17:00:14 <DannyMuniz> cralford: did you rehisterd your name here?
17:01:59 <cralford> I registered at portableapps.com
17:02:46 <DannyMuniz> ok you need to register your nickname here, the one that you are using at the moment, if that is the one that you want to keep
17:04:45 <sar3th> you only need to register if you will be around regularly and want to prevent anyone from using your nick
17:05:20 <DannyMuniz> thanks sar3th :P
17:09:32 <cralford> Yes that is the userid I use everywhere possible. I have never ran into a problem with it being in use before unless it was me and I had forgotten I had registered :)
17:10:15 <DannyMuniz> so are you planing to registering it here in that chat
17:10:16 <DannyMuniz> ?
17:10:48 <cralford> tell me where to start
17:11:34 <DannyMuniz> simple replace the password and email address /msg nickserv register your_password your_email_address
17:12:01 <DannyMuniz> then check your e-mail for verification
17:12:50 <DannyMuniz> also are you using the web browser chat or are you using a IRC client?
17:13:10 <cralford> browser
17:13:43 <DannyMuniz> do you have a portable im client?
17:13:52 <cralford> no
17:14:20 <cralford> I am logged onto my full firefox browser
17:14:26 <agdurrette> portableapps.com is giving me a 404 ?
17:14:39 <agdurrette> Page Not Found (404 Error)
17:14:39 <agdurrette> The page you are looking for might have been removed, had its name changed, or is temporarily unavailable.
17:14:39 <agdurrette> http://portableapps.com/����.rar
17:15:06 <DannyMuniz> what page are you looking for?
17:15:14 *** andreasma (~andi@p5B07E086.dip.t-dialin.net) has joined #portableapps
17:15:21 <agdurrette> portableapps.com
17:15:21 <sar3th> agdurrette, it works here
17:15:29 <agdurrette> :/
17:15:39 <DannyMuniz> just use one of this clients http://portableapps.com/support/chat
17:15:42 <agdurrette> it works now
17:16:42 <DannyMuniz> Cralford: use one of the clients from that link
17:17:10 <DannyMuniz> or you can keep using your browser that of to you
17:17:42 <DannyMuniz> up*
17:18:13 <cralford> That is the url I am using now
17:18:48 <DannyMuniz> yes i know but when you scroll down you will see that it has links to use pidginportable and other clients
17:22:51 <cralford> I see them. Is there anything wrong with the way I came in?
17:23:00 <DannyMuniz> no ther is not
17:23:15 <DannyMuniz> plz don't be offended
17:24:04 <DannyMuniz> I am just giving a sujestion
17:25:51 <cralford> I am not offended at all. I was just trying to determine if there was a real need to install another piece of software on my computer.
17:27:24 <cralford> I try not to add apps if I am not going to use them much
17:27:41 <DannyMuniz> that make sence
17:28:14 <cralford> I appreciate your help and suggestions. Its great to have people willing to help!!!
17:28:41 <DannyMuniz> :D
17:29:35 * DannyMuniz im of to launch, ill be back in a little bit.
17:31:45 *** kAlug (~kalug@187.74.5.52) has joined #portableapps
17:35:50 *** benedikt93 has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
17:37:15 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps
17:40:55 *** agdurrette has quit (Quit: Leaving)
17:42:17 *** kaeos (~Miranda@90.164.135.241) has joined #portableapps
17:46:51 *** TPFC-SYSTEM (~opera@cs181105044.pp.htv.fi) has joined #portableapps
17:52:28 *** superboyian (~superboyi@027d6778.bb.sky.com) has joined #portableapps
17:52:29 *** superboyian has quit (Changing host)
17:52:29 *** superboyian (~superboyi@unaffiliated/superboyian) has joined #portableapps
18:18:45 *** benedikt93 has quit (Ping timeout: 252 seconds)
18:20:54 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps
18:21:26 *** kaeos has quit (Quit: kaeos)
18:23:44 * DannyMuniz man was launch good! :D
18:26:08 *** cralford has quit ()
18:37:03 *** agdurrette (~agdurrett@unaffiliated/agdurrette) has joined #portableapps
18:38:34 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;))
18:47:53 *** superboyian has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
18:48:13 *** superboyian (~superboyi@027d6778.bb.sky.com) has joined #portableapps
18:48:13 *** superboyian has quit (Changing host)
18:48:13 *** superboyian (~superboyi@unaffiliated/superboyian) has joined #portableapps
18:49:43 *** superboyian has quit (Client Quit)
18:50:07 *** superboyian (~superboyi@027d6778.bb.sky.com) has joined #portableapps
18:50:07 *** superboyian has quit (Changing host)
18:50:07 *** superboyian (~superboyi@unaffiliated/superboyian) has joined #portableapps
18:50:53 <superboyian> join #wrongplanet
18:51:04 <superboyian> crap, I forgot how to join channels
18:51:08 <DannyMuniz> lol
18:51:11 <DannyMuniz> it happends
18:51:38 <superboyian> I done it earlier though
18:51:43 <DannyMuniz> you forgot to add /join #channel
18:51:54 <superboyian> oooooo thats why, lol
18:52:06 <DannyMuniz> :P
18:52:40 *** OliverK (~OliverK@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps
18:56:35 *** agdurrette has quit (Quit: Leaving)
19:07:02 *** kai_62656 (~kai_62656@unaffiliated/kai-62656/x-7765177) has joined #portableapps
19:40:57 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@74-141-213-46.dhcp.insightbb.com) has joined #portableapps
19:40:57 *** rcmaehl has quit (Changing host)
19:40:57 *** rcmaehl (~rcmaehl@unaffiliated/rcmaehl) has joined #portableapps
19:57:10 *** sar3th is now known as sar3th|away
20:03:09 *** TPFC-SYSTEM has quit (Quit: TPFC-SYSTEM)
20:06:22 *** sar3th|away is now known as sar3th
20:18:29 <DannyMuniz> do you guys know of any alternative program to Adobe Flash to edit flash file format?
20:25:35 *** kai_62656 has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
20:30:25 *** agdurrette (~agdurrett@unaffiliated/agdurrette) has joined #portableapps
20:43:57 *** benedikt93 (~benedikt9@unaffiliated/benedikt93) has joined #portableapps
20:45:15 *** JohnTHaller (~JohnTHall@cpe-98-14-114-27.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps
20:47:15 <DannyMuniz> hey John! :D
20:47:22 <JohnTHaller> Hola
20:47:34 <DannyMuniz> how is it going?
20:47:56 *** kai_62656 (~kai_62656@68-118-55-232.dhcp.crsn.ca.charter.com) has joined #portableapps
20:47:56 *** kai_62656 has quit (Changing host)
20:47:56 *** kai_62656 (~kai_62656@unaffiliated/kai-62656/x-7765177) has joined #portableapps
20:48:04 <JohnTHaller> Busy busy. Working on LibreOffice at the moment
20:48:38 <DannyMuniz> ah new update or upgrade?
20:48:54 <JohnTHaller> 3.3.1
20:49:36 <DannyMuniz> cool! :D
20:52:29 <DannyMuniz> wow wait im looking at the System Requirements and it says it needs "Up to 1.5 Gb available hard disk space"!!
21:06:22 *** andreasma has quit (Quit: Verlassend)
21:06:38 * DannyMuniz is going to take a nap. :P
21:15:27 <JohnTHaller> That's if you install all the languages
21:29:51 *** ptmb (~PTMblogge@a79-169-160-141.cpe.netcabo.pt) has joined #portableapps
21:35:40 *** gluxon (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
21:45:35 <OliverK> 'ello JohnTHaller
21:45:53 <JohnTHaller> Hola
21:46:05 <JohnTHaller> Posting Geany Portable today, btw :)
21:46:26 <OliverK> thanks :)
21:48:55 <OliverK> http://s.sftf.us/5b
21:52:39 *** marlop has quit (Ping timeout: 272 seconds)
21:53:32 *** sar3th has quit (Ping timeout: 276 seconds)
21:59:32 *** sar3th (~sar3th@unaffiliated/sar3th) has joined #portableapps
22:05:17 *** ChrisMorgan (~ChrisMorg@unaffiliated/chrismorgan) has joined #portableapps
22:06:34 <JohnTHaller> hey ChrisMorgan, how goes it?
22:08:41 <ChrisMorgan> Fygne
22:09:05 <JohnTHaller> Haven't seen you online much, how's everything going?
22:09:38 *** Simeon (~Itunes@dslb-094-216-005-215.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #portableapps
22:09:43 <Simeon> hi all
22:09:50 <JohnTHaller> hi Simeon
22:09:54 <Simeon> hi JOhn
22:10:12 <Simeon> THanks for the flow of updates! :)
22:10:26 <JohnTHaller> Sure thing. Working in LibreOffice at the moment
22:10:35 <Simeon> nice
22:10:47 <Simeon> the new icons ( i have it locally) are nice
22:10:55 <JohnTHaller> Can't really have it only install your own language, but I'm debating adding an option to remove the other languages once installed.
22:11:01 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: I've been busy with work and in my spare time mostly the new inkscape.org (http://djink.chrismorgan.info); now Uni has started so I should have more time to work on things here.
22:11:36 <JohnTHaller> Nice, that looks good :)
22:11:52 <Simeon> good. My 1gb drive is probably too small for LO. but the option is good for people with 2gb drives.
22:12:57 <JohnTHaller> Unfortunately, it would still be a 400MB install if you wanted, say, just German. Then it would remove the other 110MB of translations.
22:13:53 <Simeon> I am thinking about creating a file for bleachbit or DiskCleaner so it removes unneeded lang files but the changing drive letter gives me a hard time. Thought about doing an app that does it but I'd have to learn Python or it would be extreme spaghetti-code in NSIS :(
22:14:22 <JohnTHaller> So it wouldn't save time and you'd still need enough space, but it might be a nice option. It's relatively easy with custom code in the installer. It's just tough to handle it with multiple optional sections (one for each lang) in an automated fashion.
22:14:36 <Simeon> 300 gb is still a lot - I really should get a pocket hdd ;)
22:15:24 <Simeon> what if you only support one additional language? (=one optional section)
22:15:48 <JohnTHaller> You can't do that for all the langs. It's hard-coded at compile time of the installer.
22:15:56 <JohnTHaller> I'd have to build one installer for each lang.
22:17:32 <Simeon> then I'd save the work for later and do other stuff now *whistle*
22:17:43 *** benedikt93 has quit (Quit: Bye ;))
22:18:36 <Simeon> @ChrisMorgan: Nice home page! a bit overloaded with the 2 lines of buttons imho though.
22:19:08 <ChrisMorgan> Simeon: "2 lines of buttons"?
22:19:54 <Simeon> one with About. Learn, Download and one with Overview, Features, Gallery etc.
22:21:03 <ChrisMorgan> What browser are you using?
22:21:08 <Simeon> ah - the one only changes the picture :) had to turn noscript off to see that! ;) sorry.
22:21:43 <Simeon> sometimes noscript is bad for your browsing-experience...
22:22:10 <ChrisMorgan> You deserve what you get if you use noscript.
22:22:10 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. I'm not a fan.
22:23:01 <ChrisMorgan> That's approximately my attitude in web development. I won't go out of my way to break it, but I won't normally make sure that it /does/ work
22:24:35 <Simeon> oh about the branded flash drive idea: I think there are enough people who would pay a bit more for a good drive if they know it supports pa.com.
22:25:13 <JohnTHaller> Same here. I don't test if it'll work with JavaScript disabled anymore.
22:25:39 <JohnTHaller> I'm chatting with one of the major manufacturers about doing a PA.c drive with optimizations and encryption at the moment
22:26:33 <JohnTHaller> I think the % with JS disabled is under 1% now.
22:27:14 <Simeon> encryption? i like that. never used it till now but that may change as I lost my drive twice in the last 6 months. I found it one time though.
22:28:10 <ChrisMorgan> I avoid JavaScript where possible, but in this case it just couldn't be done properly. If the tab switching was done purely with the hash and CSS (:target etc.) it moved the location on the page (of course). Though this could be got round (I did) it wasn't the neatest way of doing it, so I threw it away and controlled it all in a simple bit of JavaScript. The transition is CSS though :-)
22:31:54 <OliverK> ChrisMorgan: if your site fails with noscript, I won't visit your site unless I really want something. You lose, not me
22:36:59 <Simeon> oh - another noscript user!
22:39:56 <Simeon> gnight all - looking forward to a bright new shiney app in the morning!
22:42:21 *** Simeon has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
22:58:08 *** JohnTHaller1 (~JohnTHall@cpe-98-14-114-27.nyc.res.rr.com) has joined #portableapps
22:58:25 *** JohnTHaller has quit (Disconnected by services)
22:58:31 *** JohnTHaller1 is now known as JohnTHaller
22:59:55 <JohnTHaller> OliverK: NoScript users usually think like that. But most big sites simply don't care about that small a percentage of users. The % of people disabling JS has dropped so significantly, I don't think most web devs even consider it except for search engines.
23:02:01 *** gluxon1 (~gluxon@c-71-234-105-104.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
23:02:19 *** kiriko (~Kiriko@c-76-119-69-200.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) has joined #portableapps
23:02:19 *** kiriko has quit (Changing host)
23:02:19 *** kiriko (~Kiriko@unaffiliated/kiriko) has joined #portableapps
23:02:43 *** ZachT|AFK (~ZachThibe@unaffiliated/zachthibeau) has joined #portableapps
23:03:25 *** Suiseiseki has quit (Disconnected by services)
23:03:33 *** Venusaur (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps
23:04:02 *** MaienM_ (~MaienM-F@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps
23:04:07 *** MaienM_ has quit (Excess Flood)
23:04:34 *** MaienM_ (~MaienM-F@unaffiliated/maienm) has joined #portableapps
23:06:29 *** mrmcpowned (~meh@unaffiliated/sh-chris) has joined #portableapps
23:06:41 *** McNinja (~OliverK@pool-98-108-117-8.chi01.dsl-w.verizon.net) has joined #portableapps
23:06:41 *** McNinja has quit (Changing host)
23:06:41 *** McNinja (~OliverK@unaffiliated/oliverk) has joined #portableapps
23:06:47 *** Thasmo (~thasmo@d86-32-70-59.cust.tele2.at) has joined #portableapps
23:08:00 *** gluxon has quit (*.net *.split)
23:08:00 *** agdurrette has quit (*.net *.split)
23:08:01 *** DannyMuniz has quit (*.net *.split)
23:08:01 *** OliverK has quit (*.net *.split)
23:08:04 *** MaienM has quit (*.net *.split)
23:08:05 *** ZachThibeau has quit (*.net *.split)
23:08:05 *** z3uS has quit (*.net *.split)
23:08:07 *** ZachT|AFK is now known as ZachThibeau
23:08:24 <JohnTHaller> yay netsplit
23:08:36 *** KindOne1 is now known as KindOne_shell
23:08:40 <mrmcpowned> Lol
23:08:47 <mrmcpowned> JohnTHaller: Youre here pretty early
23:09:17 <mrmcpowned> Great, gotta kickstart my ircbot
23:09:34 <McNinja> lol
23:09:49 *** McNinja is now known as BenedictOfAmber
23:09:55 <BenedictOfAmber> let's go incognito
23:10:33 *** sar3th is now known as JohnMirror
23:10:38 <JohnMirror> okay BenedictOfAmber
23:10:50 <BenedictOfAmber> hehe
23:11:09 <mrmcpowned> BenedictOfAmber: ZOmg, bretheren :O
23:11:12 <mrmcpowned> lol
23:12:01 <BenedictOfAmber> hmm?
23:12:12 <mrmcpowned> McNinja :P
23:12:14 <mrmcpowned> :D
23:12:16 <BenedictOfAmber> would be better if I was on zelazny.freenode.net, hmm?
23:13:06 *** z3uS (plzhalp@plzhalp.us) has joined #portableapps
23:18:47 *** Venusaur has quit (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
23:32:12 *** Suiseiseki (~desu@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) has joined #portableapps
23:36:36 *** rcmaehl has quit (Quit: Meh)
23:40:25 *** JohnMirror has quit (Quit: "Our culture doesn't get smarter, it just finds new ways of being retarded.")
23:54:46 *** kaeos (~Miranda@90.164.135.241) has joined #portableapps