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04:17:10 <JohnTHaller> Today's release has been posted: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-03-05_-_dshutdown_portable_1.72.1_released
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10:33:50 <pa_3381> hey
10:34:13 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Hi pa_3381
10:34:46 <pa_3381> is there a link you may not have listed to a version of the Suite that contains all of the applications?
10:35:33 <TPFC-SYSTEM> No. There is no "big download" that would include all PortableApps.com applications.
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10:36:16 <pa_3381> thank you
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15:31:22 <CruelC> 0hai.
15:31:36 <CruelC> Why is WPP using a x- prefix?
15:32:31 <TPFC-SYSTEM> For the same reason that PortableApps.com uses the "Portable" suffix.
15:32:39 <TPFC-SYSTEM> The applications are modified.
15:32:42 <CruelC> I think gimp_portable.paf.exe is better than x-gimp.zip
15:33:16 <CruelC> x-name.zip name_portable.paf.exe
15:33:58 <CruelC> x-BosWars_2.6.1_rev1.zip
15:34:55 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Now, if I write "GIMP Portable", other people know that I'm not talking about X-Gimp.
15:35:04 <TPFC-SYSTEM> That's a good thing. :)
15:37:00 <CruelC> they should've done it like _portable.wpp.exe
15:38:45 <CruelC> winpenpack uses a wicked license, but it provides a portability wrapper akin to pawrap, plus a "menu" (although not skinned)
15:39:02 <CruelC> winpenpack.com
15:40:42 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I think the largest advantage of winPenPack is faster updates. X-LibreOffice 3.3.1 came out in Thursday, while LibreOffice Portable is still at 3.3.0.
15:43:17 <CruelC> damn noisy orcs outside!
15:43:28 <CruelC> gotta close the window.
15:44:13 <CruelC> finally, no more orcish music
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15:45:29 <CruelC> if I simply want a portable Firefox and 2 or 3 games, should I stick with X or PAC?
15:45:38 <clutz> i am new to portable apps and tried installing tools to various places on my hard drive but can not run any tool please help
15:46:24 <CruelC> Make sure the entire set is copied.
15:46:41 <clutz> ok i have already dl them
15:46:44 <CruelC> simply run a .paf.exe (instead of trying to unpack it, as it's "flattened")
15:46:56 <clutz> ok
15:47:06 <TPFC-SYSTEM> CruelC: The differences between PA.c and WPP are almost nonexistent. Feel free to choose either or even both.
15:47:28 <CruelC> by "flattened", I mean the structure is intentionally broken to bypass Anti-Virus Software faster.
15:47:59 <clutz> where is paf.exe
15:48:16 <CruelC> something _portable that you downloaded
15:48:22 <clutz> ok
15:48:54 <CruelC> simply run it, add the drive letter when asked, and there ya go
15:48:54 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I personally use 48 natively portable applications, seven PA.c apps and two WPP apps.
15:49:23 <clutz> well all i did was download them and also compressed the app folder with that tool
15:49:39 <clutz> compressor from pa
15:50:48 <CruelC> 7za?
15:51:18 <clutz> i downloaded the branded compressor that was a addon to the platform
15:51:35 <CruelC> pa.c launcher?
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15:57:00 <clutz> any1 there
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15:57:52 <TPFC-SYSTEM> clutz: How do you try to run the tools?
15:58:04 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Oh, I was too slow.
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18:45:28 <Cael> how do i change it so it uses my U3 Sandisk 4GB Cruzer instead of my C Drive?
18:48:21 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Cael: What are you attempting to change?
18:48:50 <Cael> well i installed the App suite to my C drive thought i had to,
18:49:06 <Cael> but when i run it it shows current directory is C:\
18:49:17 <Cael> not N:\ (my U3 Cruzer)
18:49:48 <Cael> am i supposed to install it to the pendrive instead?
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18:49:55 <TPFC-SYSTEM> You can simply copy it from C:\ to N:\ . It will continue working.
18:50:01 <Cael> ok
18:50:20 <TPFC-SYSTEM> And yes, you were originally supposed to install it to the pendrive.
18:50:50 <Cael> Ahh
18:52:17 <Cael> i got this pendrive as a gift at the local bar by my friend who works there, he said he found it on the ground a fe wmonths ago and no one cameback for it. just found out the otherday Sandisk dropped the U3 line awhile ago
18:53:15 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Luckily, portable software is designed to tolerate drive letter changes. :)
18:54:29 <Cael> :3
19:10:54 <Cael> ohh sweet this even works on my micro-drive ( an MicroSD Reader w/ a 2gb Card thats no bigger than my thumbnail.
19:12:52 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Glad to hear that. :)
19:16:48 <Gizmokid2005> Cael: of course it will
19:16:56 <Gizmokid2005> it will work on ANY device that can be used as a mass storage device
19:17:17 <Gizmokid2005> even iPods with mass storage capabilities.
19:17:39 <TPFC-SYSTEM> ...provided that there is enough disk space.
19:17:48 <Gizmokid2005> that's a given...
19:28:26 <benedikt93> btw, ZachT|ZzZz , MaienM , Gizmokid2005 , are you able to edit the topic? There's still the link to the old logserver in there.
19:28:58 <Gizmokid2005> palogbot: uri
19:28:58 <palogbot> http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/irc/logs?t=2011-03-06#T19-28-58
19:29:36 *** Gizmokid2005 changed the topic to: "Welcome to the PortableApps.com support channel. If you need assistance, just say "help!", or ask your question, and WAIT rather than just leaving. | Please don't PM without asking first | This channel is logged: http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/irc/logs/ | The #PortableApps IRC rules are here: http://gizmokid2005.com/paircrules Read and abide by them"
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19:49:50 <agdurrette> .whoami
19:49:56 <agdurrette> .who
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19:50:22 <agdurrette> wrong channel :/
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21:00:53 <GizmoBot> D_D is agdurrette when he is on minecraft
21:03:22 <D_D> .def is agdurrette when he is on minecraft or agdurrette is in use
21:03:22 <GizmoBot> D_D: Def manipulation is only allowed in #gizmokid2005, #gizmokid2005-def
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21:26:42 <pa_1564> help
21:26:42 <GizmoBot> pa_1564: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
21:28:04 <pa_1564> I have a question regarding the autorun.exe virus. I had a USB to run with Portable apps, everything was fine until the day I used it in a public computer. Is there a way to remove this virus?
21:31:20 <gluxon> Reinstalling PortableApps.com should work.
21:31:29 <pa_1564> thats what I thought
21:31:32 <pa_1564> will try that
21:31:35 <pa_1564> thanks
21:31:38 <gluxon> It'll set the platform to run instead of the virus again.
21:32:06 <agdurrette> have you done a virus scan
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21:38:33 <pa_1564> I have. It seems that I can accesss my files, but strange thing is there are copies of the folders that I have files in. The copies of the folders shows as folders with the same name, only thing is that they show as shortcuts
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21:39:12 <gluxon> pa_1564: Probably unlikely, but perhaps you have symbolic links on your drive?
21:39:35 <gluxon> Is it FAT32 or something else?
21:39:43 <pa_1564> do I just delete the shortcut twin folders?
21:40:07 <pa_1564> the original folders with files, look like they are faded ghost files
21:41:54 <pa_1564> FAT32
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21:46:12 <gluxon> Yeah, forget the stuff I said about symbolic links. They don't work on FAT32. Probably just shortcuts?
21:46:32 <gluxon> If a file is partly transparent, then it means they're hidden.
21:46:49 <gluxon> By default, Windows doesn't even show the hidden files. So virus executables are commonly hidden.
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21:59:45 <pa_1564> ok
22:00:14 <pa_1564> will try to reinstall p.a.
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23:19:32 <cruelc> 0hai. :)
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23:37:46 <agdurrette> hello
23:46:55 <cruelc> Is there any good portable RTS other than BosWars?
23:47:39 <cruelc> maybe a business sim, but not as deep as OTTD/Simutrans
23:47:58 <Gizmokid2005> cruelc: http://portableapps.com/apps/games right now, that's what we've got...
23:49:29 <cruelc> NP is kinda glitchy, WZ - Eidos is a clam on a chain
23:50:08 <cruelc> I thought maybe you know of some good medium-depth business RTS's that are portable either natively, on pac or on x
23:50:36 <cruelc> like if a fully playable open Stronghold existed