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04:12:34 <JohnTHaller> Today's new release is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-03-15-_hot_spot_studio_portable_2.1_released
04:12:34 <JohnTHaller> Today's new release is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-03-15-_hot_spot_studio_portable_2.1_released
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04:12:49 <OliverK|Away> I see that
04:12:49 <OliverK|Away> I see that
04:12:59 <OliverK|Away> ^^ sounded better in head
04:12:59 <OliverK|Away> ^^ sounded better in head
04:13:07 <OliverK|Away> neat
04:13:08 <OliverK|Away> neat
04:13:26 <OliverK|Away> and thanks for getting pnotes up :)
04:13:27 <OliverK|Away> and thanks for getting pnotes up :)
04:13:37 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, it's kinda fun actually. May use it to make a couple fun PA.c Themes as soon as the new platform is up.
04:13:37 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, it's kinda fun actually. May use it to make a couple fun PA.c Themes as soon as the new platform is up.
04:13:42 <JohnTHaller> Sure thing. Thanks for the update :)
04:13:42 <JohnTHaller> Sure thing. Thanks for the update :)
04:14:09 <OliverK|Away> I did that kind of thing in autocad once
04:14:09 <OliverK|Away> I did that kind of thing in autocad once
04:14:27 <OliverK|Away> made a crystal and played with the lights . . .
04:14:28 <OliverK|Away> made a crystal and played with the lights . . .
04:14:34 <OliverK|Away> school doesn't have autocad anymore :/
04:14:35 <OliverK|Away> school doesn't have autocad anymore :/
04:14:35 <JohnTHaller> Our creative directory is a genius at stuff like that.
04:14:35 <JohnTHaller> Our creative directory is a genius at stuff like that.
04:14:50 <OliverK|Away> director*?
04:14:50 <OliverK|Away> director*?
04:15:11 <OliverK|Away> I was just playing around with random commands, I'm not any real good at that stuff
04:15:12 <OliverK|Away> I was just playing around with random commands, I'm not any real good at that stuff
04:15:24 <JohnTHaller> Our head designer dude.... that's his title :)
04:15:25 <JohnTHaller> Our head designer dude.... that's his title :)
04:15:34 <OliverK|Away> "creative directory"?
04:15:34 <OliverK|Away> "creative directory"?
04:17:23 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. Director. Heh. http://www.nowheremachine.com/projects/contentemporary/index.html
04:17:23 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. Director. Heh. http://www.nowheremachine.com/projects/contentemporary/index.html
04:17:52 <OliverK|Away> oh, wow
04:17:53 <OliverK|Away> oh, wow
04:18:15 <OliverK|Away> impressive
04:18:15 <OliverK|Away> impressive
04:18:53 <JohnTHaller> That first series he did as 2' x 3' panels and had an installation. It's a set that traces the eventual human-machine conciousness called Cascading Recombinance.
04:18:53 <JohnTHaller> That first series he did as 2' x 3' panels and had an installation. It's a set that traces the eventual human-machine conciousness called Cascading Recombinance.
04:19:35 <OliverK|Away> I don't get it . . . . but I'm dense
04:19:35 <OliverK|Away> I don't get it . . . . but I'm dense
04:19:40 <OliverK|Away> not very artsy :)
04:19:40 <OliverK|Away> not very artsy :)
04:20:00 <JohnTHaller> He's done a few jaw-dropping custom themes for PA.c that we'll release at some point. I keep trying to convince him to sell posters and prints online. The files are big enough that he can make huge versions of them. I think he did them at 5'x6' at 200dpi-ish
04:20:00 <JohnTHaller> He's done a few jaw-dropping custom themes for PA.c that we'll release at some point. I keep trying to convince him to sell posters and prints online. The files are big enough that he can make huge versions of them. I think he did them at 5'x6' at 200dpi-ish
04:20:21 <OliverK|Away> he should get them on deviant art
04:20:22 <OliverK|Away> he should get them on deviant art
04:21:04 <JohnTHaller> I know. Among other places. Sadly, he's been doing more corporate graphics design (big firm, fortune 500 clients) and less art. Gotta pay bills and all.
04:21:04 <JohnTHaller> I know. Among other places. Sadly, he's been doing more corporate graphics design (big firm, fortune 500 clients) and less art. Gotta pay bills and all.
04:21:07 <OliverK|Away> i laugh when people ask for ethereal
04:21:08 <OliverK|Away> i laugh when people ask for ethereal
04:21:09 <OliverK|Away> yeah
04:21:10 <OliverK|Away> yeah
04:21:19 <OliverK|Away> I need to find a man to work for myself :/
04:21:19 <OliverK|Away> I need to find a man to work for myself :/
04:21:39 <JohnTHaller> ethereal?
04:21:39 <JohnTHaller> ethereal?
04:21:46 <OliverK|Away> wireshark :)
04:21:47 <OliverK|Away> wireshark :)
04:22:22 <JohnTHaller> Oh yeah. I have a bug into them to fix the format issues. We're gonna list them even with the driver issue as it can install/uninstall cleanly (with proper cleanup) with admin rights.
04:22:22 <JohnTHaller> Oh yeah. I have a bug into them to fix the format issues. We're gonna list them even with the driver issue as it can install/uninstall cleanly (with proper cleanup) with admin rights.
04:22:40 <OliverK|Away> I did it in nmap :)
04:22:40 <OliverK|Away> I did it in nmap :)
04:23:07 <OliverK|Away> which was some of their launcher, but I cleaned up alot of crud. Their launcher wasn't so great :/
04:23:07 <OliverK|Away> which was some of their launcher, but I cleaned up alot of crud. Their launcher wasn't so great :/
04:23:20 <OliverK|Away> mostly just melded launchers and changed some things around
04:23:20 <OliverK|Away> mostly just melded launchers and changed some things around
04:23:42 <OliverK|Away> actually, it was just zenmap come to think of it
04:23:42 <OliverK|Away> actually, it was just zenmap come to think of it
04:23:50 <OliverK|Away> commadline issues
04:23:50 <OliverK|Away> commadline issues
04:24:17 <JohnTHaller> yeah, the wireshark launcher is based on a pretty old version of one of ours.
04:24:17 <JohnTHaller> yeah, the wireshark launcher is based on a pretty old version of one of ours.
04:25:24 <OliverK|Away> zenmap was back in 2009
04:25:24 <OliverK|Away> zenmap was back in 2009
04:25:32 <OliverK|Away> gosh, I was young. Stupid to
04:25:33 <OliverK|Away> gosh, I was young. Stupid to
04:25:35 <OliverK|Away> too*
04:25:35 <OliverK|Away> too*
04:25:49 <JohnTHaller> We're always young and stupid. Relatively speaking.
04:25:49 <JohnTHaller> We're always young and stupid. Relatively speaking.
04:26:44 <OliverK|Away> I think we're always stupid
04:26:45 <OliverK|Away> I think we're always stupid
04:26:56 <OliverK|Away> we just stop being young and stupid and become old and stupid
04:26:56 <OliverK|Away> we just stop being young and stupid and become old and stupid
04:27:33 <OliverK|Away> but, it would be awesome to be old and wise
04:27:33 <OliverK|Away> but, it would be awesome to be old and wise
04:27:41 <JohnTHaller> When you get old and stupid and set in your ways... that's when it gets dangerous. And that's always relative, too. That can happen when you're young.
04:27:41 <JohnTHaller> When you get old and stupid and set in your ways... that's when it gets dangerous. And that's always relative, too. That can happen when you're young.
04:28:01 <JohnTHaller> I'm old and a wise-ass. Does that count? Partial credit maybe?
04:28:01 <JohnTHaller> I'm old and a wise-ass. Does that count? Partial credit maybe?
04:28:47 <OliverK|Away> hmm
04:28:47 <OliverK|Away> hmm
04:28:51 <OliverK|Away> partial credit I think
04:28:52 <OliverK|Away> partial credit I think
04:28:58 <OliverK|Away> but you don't qualify as old :p
04:28:58 <OliverK|Away> but you don't qualify as old :p
04:29:02 <OliverK|Away> not at what, 35?
04:29:03 <OliverK|Away> not at what, 35?
04:29:05 <OliverK|Away> less then?
04:29:05 <OliverK|Away> less then?
04:29:37 <JohnTHaller> 37
04:29:37 <JohnTHaller> 37
04:29:59 <JohnTHaller> It's relative. Though the group I surround myself with ranges from 23 to 45.
04:29:59 <JohnTHaller> It's relative. Though the group I surround myself with ranges from 23 to 45.
04:30:15 <JohnTHaller> Younger if you count virtually and relatives of course
04:30:15 <JohnTHaller> Younger if you count virtually and relatives of course
04:30:19 <OliverK|Away> I prefer the old range myself
04:30:20 <OliverK|Away> I prefer the old range myself
04:30:29 <OliverK|Away> yeah, most of the people I know online are around my age
04:30:30 <OliverK|Away> yeah, most of the people I know online are around my age
04:30:49 <OliverK|Away> but in real life I prefer people who are older.
04:30:49 <OliverK|Away> but in real life I prefer people who are older.
04:31:04 <OliverK|Away> my "real life" peers are generally idiots
04:31:04 <OliverK|Away> my "real life" peers are generally idiots
04:31:16 <JohnTHaller> My close friends are about my age +/- 5 years
04:31:16 <JohnTHaller> My close friends are about my age +/- 5 years
04:33:03 <OliverK|Away> I very
04:33:03 <OliverK|Away> I very
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04:33:14 <OliverK|Away> usually, upwards and not downwards
04:33:14 <OliverK|Away> usually, upwards and not downwards
04:33:24 <JohnTHaller> Yeah
04:33:24 <JohnTHaller> Yeah
04:33:30 <JohnTHaller> Man Google Chrome releases too often
04:33:30 <JohnTHaller> Man Google Chrome releases too often
04:33:33 <OliverK|Away> computer people I have to know people that are close to my age. But I do so many other things then just computer stuff
04:33:33 <OliverK|Away> computer people I have to know people that are close to my age. But I do so many other things then just computer stuff
04:33:51 <OliverK|Away> and people my age don't know squat about it
04:33:51 <OliverK|Away> and people my age don't know squat about it
04:34:43 <OliverK|Away> back later
04:34:43 <OliverK|Away> back later
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04:35:02 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. A lot of folks seem stuck on one thing.
04:35:02 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. A lot of folks seem stuck on one thing.
04:35:48 <OliverK|Away> yeah. I do to much
04:35:48 <OliverK|Away> yeah. I do to much
05:08:11 <OliverK|Away> JohnTHaller: I'm not much for electronic art, wood working gives me enough trouble: http://soliloquyforthefallen.net/blog/2010/08/18/cutom-guitar-case/
05:08:11 <OliverK|Away> JohnTHaller: I'm not much for electronic art, wood working gives me enough trouble: http://soliloquyforthefallen.net/blog/2010/08/18/cutom-guitar-case/
05:08:51 <JohnTHaller> That's cool. Both my dad and granddad do/did woodworking. My granddad was a tool and die maker.
05:08:51 <JohnTHaller> That's cool. Both my dad and granddad do/did woodworking. My granddad was a tool and die maker.
05:09:16 <JohnTHaller> I'd have a workshop myself if I wasn't in a NYC apt.
05:09:16 <JohnTHaller> I'd have a workshop myself if I wasn't in a NYC apt.
05:09:30 <OliverK|Away> its awesome
05:09:30 <OliverK|Away> its awesome
05:09:46 <OliverK|Away> I can't imagine not having a workshop at my disposal
05:09:47 <OliverK|Away> I can't imagine not having a workshop at my disposal
05:10:33 <JohnTHaller> I know. I sometimes busy myself fixing random stuff. And the fact that the super knows I have more tools and borrows em.
05:10:33 <JohnTHaller> I know. I sometimes busy myself fixing random stuff. And the fact that the super knows I have more tools and borrows em.
05:10:47 <OliverK|Away> its relaxing
05:10:47 <OliverK|Away> its relaxing
05:11:25 <JohnTHaller> I'm hoping to get to take a break sometime this summer and work up in CT with my dad on a couple projects.
05:11:25 <JohnTHaller> I'm hoping to get to take a break sometime this summer and work up in CT with my dad on a couple projects.
05:11:38 <OliverK|Away> go for it
05:11:39 <OliverK|Away> go for it
05:12:13 <OliverK|Away> my brother actually has that case, in Ohio. I gaze on the pictures sometimes :/
05:12:14 <OliverK|Away> my brother actually has that case, in Ohio. I gaze on the pictures sometimes :/
05:13:38 <JohnTHaller> Once I have the money and time, I'd like to make more of the furniture for my own place. I'd have to in CT now, but at least my dad has a full setup there. Lathe and all.
05:13:38 <JohnTHaller> Once I have the money and time, I'd like to make more of the furniture for my own place. I'd have to in CT now, but at least my dad has a full setup there. Lathe and all.
05:13:50 <OliverK|Away> :O
05:13:51 <OliverK|Away> :O
05:13:55 <OliverK|Away> I wish for a lathe
05:13:55 <OliverK|Away> I wish for a lathe
05:15:01 <JohnTHaller> You'd love this one. OLD school lathe. Was my grandfather's. Drill press, band saw, upright sander, table saw, you name it. My dad's rigged up vacuum hoses to get rid of the sawdust, too. Plus a complete set of nearly every Stanley tool that used to be made 40 years ago.
05:15:01 <JohnTHaller> You'd love this one. OLD school lathe. Was my grandfather's. Drill press, band saw, upright sander, table saw, you name it. My dad's rigged up vacuum hoses to get rid of the sawdust, too. Plus a complete set of nearly every Stanley tool that used to be made 40 years ago.
05:15:12 <OliverK|Away> oh, wow
05:15:12 <OliverK|Away> oh, wow
05:15:18 <OliverK|Away> I would get lost and not come out for days
05:15:19 <OliverK|Away> I would get lost and not come out for days
05:15:32 <OliverK|Away> I passed on a chnace to get an old old craftsman lathe
05:15:33 <OliverK|Away> I passed on a chnace to get an old old craftsman lathe
05:15:39 <OliverK|Away> should have done it
05:15:39 <OliverK|Away> should have done it
05:15:46 <JohnTHaller> When you're a tool and die maker, you get big discounts. Or you did back then when they made all the tools right in CT.
05:15:46 <JohnTHaller> When you're a tool and die maker, you get big discounts. Or you did back then when they made all the tools right in CT.
05:15:57 <OliverK|Away> I've got a table top drill press, chop saw, scroll saw, jig saw
05:15:57 <OliverK|Away> I've got a table top drill press, chop saw, scroll saw, jig saw
05:16:14 <OliverK|Away> I do a ton of work with the last two, and drill nearly every hole I drill with the drill press
05:16:15 <OliverK|Away> I do a ton of work with the last two, and drill nearly every hole I drill with the drill press
05:16:37 <OliverK|Away> wood working, go figure :)
05:16:37 <OliverK|Away> wood working, go figure :)
05:16:40 <JohnTHaller> heh
05:16:41 <JohnTHaller> heh
05:17:03 <JohnTHaller> If I didn't go into computers (or somthing art-related), I'
05:17:03 <JohnTHaller> If I didn't go into computers (or somthing art-related), I'
05:17:09 <JohnTHaller> d have been a carpenter or woodworker
05:17:10 <JohnTHaller> d have been a carpenter or woodworker
05:18:05 <OliverK|Away> I was(did technically) become an engineer. Then I releazed that it took all the fun out of my life. So I switched to computer stuff
05:18:05 <OliverK|Away> I was(did technically) become an engineer. Then I releazed that it took all the fun out of my life. So I switched to computer stuff
05:19:06 <JohnTHaller> I was an electrical engineering major for exactly 1 week my freshman year. I looked at the course load and it wasn't what I wanted. I tried to create a mid-ground computer engineering custom degree and course load and they wouldn't let me. So I did CS and took a bunch of fun electives.
05:19:06 <JohnTHaller> I was an electrical engineering major for exactly 1 week my freshman year. I looked at the course load and it wasn't what I wanted. I tried to create a mid-ground computer engineering custom degree and course load and they wouldn't let me. So I did CS and took a bunch of fun electives.
05:19:49 <OliverK|Away> cool
05:19:49 <OliverK|Away> cool
05:20:06 <JohnTHaller> Did engineering have nearly no electives at your school?
05:20:06 <JohnTHaller> Did engineering have nearly no electives at your school?
05:20:17 <OliverK|Away> I took engineering electives
05:20:17 <OliverK|Away> I took engineering electives
05:20:30 <OliverK|Away> Mechanical engineerng tech. The "practical" side
05:20:31 <OliverK|Away> Mechanical engineerng tech. The "practical" side
05:20:33 <JohnTHaller> Oh ok
05:20:33 <JohnTHaller> Oh ok
05:20:43 <OliverK|Away> but, I dabbled. Little of this, little of that
05:20:44 <OliverK|Away> but, I dabbled. Little of this, little of that
05:20:50 <OliverK|Away> some welding, machining, CNC
05:20:51 <OliverK|Away> some welding, machining, CNC
05:20:55 <OliverK|Away> touch of elctronics
05:20:55 <OliverK|Away> touch of elctronics
05:21:18 <OliverK|Away> anyway, I need to get to bed
05:21:18 <OliverK|Away> anyway, I need to get to bed
05:21:20 <OliverK|Away> goodnight
05:21:21 <OliverK|Away> goodnight
05:21:33 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, same here. After 1. Gnight man
05:21:33 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, same here. After 1. Gnight man
05:21:47 <JohnTHaller> Gnight all
05:21:47 <JohnTHaller> Gnight all
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13:39:45 <CruelC> 0hai
13:39:45 <CruelC> 0hai
13:39:53 <CruelC> Glest is dead
13:39:53 <CruelC> Glest is dead
13:40:04 <CruelC> will MegaGlest be portabilized, or is it too large?
13:40:05 <CruelC> will MegaGlest be portabilized, or is it too large?
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15:02:15 <CruelC> 000_000
15:02:15 <CruelC> 000_000
15:02:33 <CruelC> tried to make MegaGlest portable, but it's h3ll
15:02:33 <CruelC> tried to make MegaGlest portable, but it's h3ll
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15:11:07 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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15:11:07 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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15:36:05 <CruelC1> ZTh: Will MegaGlest be portabilized any soon? main Glest is dead
15:36:05 <CruelC1> ZTh: Will MegaGlest be portabilized any soon? main Glest is dead
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16:12:47 <susanna> I have Keypass on my WinXP and just got a MacPro - do I need a new software or will the portable on a flash drive work on the Mac?
16:12:47 <susanna> I have Keypass on my WinXP and just got a MacPro - do I need a new software or will the portable on a flash drive work on the Mac?
16:12:56 <susanna> The WinXP is at home and the MacPro is at work.
16:12:56 <susanna> The WinXP is at home and the MacPro is at work.
16:16:12 <Gizmokid2005> susanna: windows apps don't run on osx natively
16:16:12 <Gizmokid2005> susanna: windows apps don't run on osx natively
16:16:25 <Gizmokid2005> you could try running it in wine, or use a virtual machine, but no, the same version will not work on both computers
16:16:25 <Gizmokid2005> you could try running it in wine, or use a virtual machine, but no, the same version will not work on both computers
16:16:38 <Gizmokid2005> but you can use the same keypass database on both computers by installing native Keepass on the mac
16:16:38 <Gizmokid2005> but you can use the same keypass database on both computers by installing native Keepass on the mac
16:17:32 <susanna> I didn't think Keypass would work on the Mac? If it will then that solves the problem.
16:17:32 <susanna> I didn't think Keypass would work on the Mac? If it will then that solves the problem.
16:18:04 <susanna> I can keep the keypass database on the server and it will be available if I'm at home or work.
16:18:05 <susanna> I can keep the keypass database on the server and it will be available if I'm at home or work.
16:19:01 <susanna> Thank you!
16:19:01 <susanna> Thank you!
16:19:37 * CruelC is mad
16:19:38 * CruelC is mad
16:19:53 <CruelC> Win7 is a komplete offload
16:19:53 <CruelC> Win7 is a komplete offload
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16:20:46 * CruelC wishes win7 wasn't a complete offload, or M$ released a better OS.
16:20:46 * CruelC wishes win7 wasn't a complete offload, or M$ released a better OS.
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16:22:53 <CruelC> 7 is a dress of vomit on the pig of Vista
16:22:53 <CruelC> 7 is a dress of vomit on the pig of Vista
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17:23:00 <Gizmokid2005> CruelC: not even close. Win7 is the best thing since XP
17:23:00 <Gizmokid2005> CruelC: not even close. Win7 is the best thing since XP
17:23:05 <Gizmokid2005> vista was MEv
17:23:05 <Gizmokid2005> vista was MEv
17:23:08 <Gizmokid2005> *MEv2
17:23:08 <Gizmokid2005> *MEv2
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18:49:26 <GizmoBot> ptmb knows a lot about HTML+CSS, besides that he is just a lunatic...
18:49:27 <GizmoBot> ptmb knows a lot about HTML+CSS, besides that he is just a lunatic...
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20:44:36 <GizmoBot> computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and Iron Portable, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback.
20:44:36 <GizmoBot> computerfreaker is working on KidSafe and Iron Portable, and would very much like to have folks test them and give feedback.
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22:21:24 <Simeon> hi all
22:21:24 <Simeon> hi all
22:21:43 <Simeon> hi John, Chris, GizmoKid
22:21:43 <Simeon> hi John, Chris, GizmoKid
22:26:56 <Simeon> anyone here?
22:26:56 <Simeon> anyone here?
22:32:05 <Simeon> @JohnTHaller: Could you please have a look here: http://portableapps.com/node/26931 and here: http://portableapps.com/node/26761 ? Thanks.
22:32:05 <Simeon> @JohnTHaller: Could you please have a look here: http://portableapps.com/node/26931 and here: http://portableapps.com/node/26761 ? Thanks.
22:33:38 <Simeon> bye all
22:33:38 <Simeon> bye all
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