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00:29:26 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
00:29:26 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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03:07:30 <JohnTHaller> Today's new release is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-03-16_-_explorerplusplus_portable_1.2_released
03:07:30 <JohnTHaller> Today's new release is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-03-16_-_explorerplusplus_portable_1.2_released
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04:50:22 <ChrisMorgan> Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear... just realised what happens when for some incomprehensible reason palogbot fails to authenticate. We get two copies of everything in the logs.
04:50:22 <ChrisMorgan> Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear... just realised what happens when for some incomprehensible reason palogbot fails to authenticate. We get two copies of everything in the logs.
04:50:34 <JohnTHaller> ouch
04:50:35 <JohnTHaller> ouch
04:51:24 <ChrisMorgan> Started to go sour at http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/irc/logs/?t=2011-03-14#T05-47-05
04:51:45 <JohnTHaller> Wow. That's annoying.
04:51:46 <JohnTHaller> Wow. That's annoying.
04:51:49 <ChrisMorgan> :P
04:51:52 <JohnTHaller> hehe
04:52:10 <JohnTHaller> btw - PeaZip is now PAL and 32+64bit
04:52:39 <ChrisMorgan> At least I know that dboki89 and computerfreaker look at the logs; they noticed and told me via GizmoBot... so just after I said my "Oh dear" line it tells me.
04:53:19 <ChrisMorgan> I think I need to put in a lock to prevent that from happening so that two instances of the same script can't join the same channel.
04:53:54 <ChrisMorgan> Now I just wish I knew why it got renamed to 64MAAEGPF rather than Guest123456...
04:56:28 <ChrisMorgan> Well, I'll need to go through those lines of the logs and clear it out. That'll need to wait till this evening or so when I get home.
04:59:08 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: good... I think some time I should add a dozen or two more entries to the "apps using PAL" list and then give it up except for special cases. At least I can use /MODE=ADDALL to get all the new apps to quickly find the ones which are PAL!
04:59:19 <ChrisMorgan> Bye, I'm off to a tutorial now.
04:59:25 <JohnTHaller> Ok, later man
04:59:32 <ChrisMorgan> Hopefully palogbot will behave itself more.
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05:35:27 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005 is working on KVIrc Portable: http://portableapps.com/node/23424
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06:40:06 <DannyMuniz> hey guys i have to ask, why is it that i have permition to edit InfraRecorederPortable story page?
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07:46:46 <GizmoBot> dbdii407 is Dave, Owner of the ScrapIRC Network.
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08:09:07 <WaseemALKurdi> i have a new app how could i package it for portableapps.com menu?
08:09:36 <WaseemALKurdi> os65k
08:09:42 <WaseemALKurdi> i have a new app how could i package it for portableapps.com menu?
08:09:44 <WaseemALKurdi> i have a new app how could i package it for portableapps.com menu?
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09:12:27 <auscompgeek> heh
09:12:49 <auscompgeek> did I ever mention that we're lacking group cloaks here?
09:13:01 <auscompgeek> err, group/project cloaks
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11:26:59 <ChrisMorgan> auscompgeek: we've been in Freenode's backlog for three or four years, and don't ever really expect to get through.
11:42:15 <MaienM> their backlog is probably huge
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11:43:01 <MaienM> they are working on a better way to process those requests (GMS/group management system) but I don't really know how the progress is on that
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11:43:25 <MaienM> I'm guessing they're mostly putting off processing the backlog till that is finished/usable
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14:08:09 <pa_1354> any admins of the site for the apps here?
14:09:52 <pa_1354> hello?
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14:10:03 <pa_1354> Any admins online?
14:10:46 <pa_1354> I wish to report your software as dangerous
14:10:54 <pa_1354> Containing Virii
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14:11:04 <pa_1354> one in particular.
14:11:34 <pa_1354> And that one has 245 counts in the one application.
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14:13:22 <pa_2627> Hello? I need help regarding installation of the Suite?
14:15:48 <benedikt93> pa_1354, did you verify that at virustotal or similiar or was it only reported by one anti-virus program? In that case it would most likely be a false positive. What kind of virii were reported exactly in which exact application?
14:16:10 <benedikt93> pa_2627, probably you're best just asking your question :)
14:16:22 <pa_1354> 18/03/11 00:23 Trojan.Win32.Generic.127762F7 High Trojan File deleted
14:16:31 <pa_1354> That's one of 145
14:16:41 <pa_1354> I have the log right here
14:17:27 <pa_1354> What do you want me to do?
14:17:48 <pa_2627> I've downloaded the Setup 1.6.1 exe file onto my portable and when I double click on it, it says "...is not a valid Win32 application." (Thanks benedikt93. Sorry, slow typer.)
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14:19:20 <benedikt93> pa_1354, can you put it here http://pastie.org/ or at a similiar service so I could look at it? That "generic" code looks pretty much like something detected by "heuristic" algorithm. These tend to false positives
14:20:02 <MrDrewW> on 245 files?
14:20:03 <benedikt93> pa_2627, I'd redownload it, most likely the file has been damaged (due to an unstable connection or similiar)
14:20:14 <MrDrewW> I downloaded it 3 times
14:20:32 <benedikt93> MrDrewW, I meant somebody else :)
14:20:36 <MrDrewW> The third time I kept the log to complain.
14:20:45 <benedikt93> I thought you had one long log
14:21:39 <pa_2627> benedikt93, this was the second download...I'll go try it a few more times and be back if still a no go. Thanks!
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14:23:59 <benedikt93> MrDrewW, can you upload the file(s) here http://www.virustotal.com/ and check whether it is reported positive by other tools? Also which app did you have problems with and what anti-virus do you use?
14:24:22 <MrDrewW> I use Rising.
14:24:29 <MrDrewW> It's never failed me.
14:24:51 <MrDrewW> That web address does not exist
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14:26:52 <MrDrewW> That web address doesn't exist
14:27:04 <MrDrewW> The program was the Portable VNC Player
14:27:33 <benedikt93> hmm, for me it does though. you could try this one: http://virusscan.jotti.org/de
14:28:18 <MrDrewW> Server not found
14:29:29 <benedikt93> the reason why apps from this project are often detected as virii when they aren't is that they (in many cases) use some compression to save space on your drive. But similiar approaches can be used to obfuscate malware.
14:30:09 <MrDrewW> to compress drive space???
14:30:15 <MrDrewW> Why the hack would anyone want that?
14:30:26 <MrDrewW> heck^^
14:30:58 <benedikt93> hmm, for me both work. Then I cannot really help you further. I'd guess y false positive, but I can ofc not be entirely sure.
14:31:57 <benedikt93> compress files = shorter loading times as usb flash drives in most cases are *slow*. Also may the space you have on a thumb drice be limited
14:32:29 <MrDrewW> wrong
14:32:54 <MrDrewW> compressed = longer loading
14:33:02 <MrDrewW> Because it has to be decompressed
14:33:10 <MrDrewW> Thus, it would be the same amount of time.
14:33:36 <benedikt93> nope as the cpu must be extremly slow for that to be true
14:33:39 <MrDrewW> I've only had this virus issue with VNC
14:33:52 <MrDrewW> That's wrong Bene
14:35:45 <benedikt93> Also which app do you mean *exactly* and where did it come from? I just checked PA.c and did not find any VNC player
14:37:09 <MrDrewW> Music and Video
14:37:22 <MrDrewW> sorry... VLC Media Player Portable
14:37:41 <MrDrewW> I'm just trygin to play DVDs... LEGIT DVDs, not rips
14:41:33 <benedikt93> I'm just uploading it to virustotal to check, but this will take me some time
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16:53:06 <GizmoBot> agdurrette Dont mind him he is a nobody.
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16:56:38 <GizmoBot> ptmb knows a lot about HTML+CSS, besides that he is just a lunatic...
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20:34:41 <pa_0900> hi gizmobot
20:34:41 <GizmoBot> Hello pa_0900
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20:53:45 <Mir_ppc> GizmoBot!
20:53:45 <GizmoBot> Mir_ppc!
20:53:51 <Mir_ppc> hi Gizmokid2005
20:53:55 <Mir_ppc> err
20:53:58 <Mir_ppc> :<
20:54:04 <Mir_ppc> hello anyways
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22:39:18 <GizmoBot> ptmb knows a lot about HTML+CSS, besides that he is just a lunatic...
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