IRC Log from 2011-03-21

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00:00:48 <DADSGETNDOWN> Hi there, anyone here know a bit about Assualt Cube portable ?
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01:09:48 <DADSGETNDOWN> Hi there, anyone here know a bit about Assualt Cube portable ?
01:11:21 <Yarukinasu> why, yes...
01:13:40 <DADSGETNDOWN> Well hi there yarukinasu
01:14:00 <Yarukinasu> hello, I see you're still trying to get some help...?
01:14:14 <DADSGETNDOWN> yeppers lol..
01:15:28 <DADSGETNDOWN> try this, I have maps I have downloaded in zip files they have the map, cfg, textures, models, audio and such in them..
01:16:31 <DADSGETNDOWN> when you join a server and need the map, it downloads it and it seems to move them to, F:\PortableApps\AssaultCubePortable\Data\settings\packages\maps
01:17:06 <DADSGETNDOWN> but there are no audio, misc, texture and whatever folders
01:17:22 <Yarukinasu> well, it'll only download the map...
01:17:34 <Yarukinasu> erhm, something.cfg and something.cgz
01:17:43 <DADSGETNDOWN> they are back over in, F:\PortableApps\AssaultCubePortable\App\assaultcube\packages
01:17:48 <Yarukinasu> I don't even think AC will download additional textures...
01:19:42 <DADSGETNDOWN> so If I put the maps I downloaded in the DATA even though the APP area has a maps folder, then put the audio and texture etc over in the APP area will all be okay ?
01:21:07 <Yarukinasu> I'm sorry, I am confused with what you just said
01:21:29 <DADSGETNDOWN> or should I put everything in the APP area, which is the way the folder stucture of the zip looks, OR should I just put the contents of the zipz in the DATA area and make it have 2 identical structers
01:21:34 <DADSGETNDOWN> I know it's wierd..lol
01:21:49 <Yarukinasu> add everything in the DATA folder
01:22:33 <DADSGETNDOWN> I belive the maps that get downloaded whne you join a server IF you do not have it end up in the F:\PortableApps\AssaultCubePortable\Data\settings\packages\maps
01:22:48 <Yarukinasu> yes, that is true
01:23:46 <DADSGETNDOWN> the folder structure of the zips are identical to the , F:\PortableApps\AssaultCubePortable\App\assaultcube\packages
01:24:09 <Yarukinasu> yes, they are
01:24:25 <Yarukinasu> but add the additional maps to the Data\packages
01:25:06 <DADSGETNDOWN> and the audio, texture, misc, and models ?
01:25:11 <DADSGETNDOWN> where ?
01:26:34 <DADSGETNDOWN> the app area already has those folders, but the DATA does not..
01:26:35 <Yarukinasu> you can still add those folders to the Data
01:26:41 <DADSGETNDOWN> right..
01:26:42 <Yarukinasu> yes, you can create them
01:27:19 <DADSGETNDOWN> I am wondering... did they screw up ?
01:27:36 <DADSGETNDOWN> is the app area strictly used for maybe a server...
01:28:14 <Yarukinasu> yes...
01:28:14 <DADSGETNDOWN> if so they should have atleast made empty folderrs in the DATA dir :)
01:28:25 <Yarukinasu> oh well ;_;
01:28:30 <DADSGETNDOWN> hehe
01:28:44 <Yarukinasu> but yes, just extract those into the DATA director, and you're all set...
01:29:01 <DADSGETNDOWN> or maybe they want me to add the files to the app dir instead
01:29:36 <Yarukinasu> well then...
01:29:41 <Yarukinasu> do whatever works for you...
01:29:47 <DADSGETNDOWN> we both know it will work either way, but you see it is weird or they messed up,
01:30:01 <Yarukinasu> it's not messed up... p_p
01:30:05 <DADSGETNDOWN> lol
01:30:23 <DADSGETNDOWN> it sort of is..
01:31:08 <Yarukinasu> have you extracted the folders...?
01:31:17 <DADSGETNDOWN> reminds me of the old Unreal mapping problems with clients getting map mistach errors because people didn't rename the map after they edited it..
01:31:43 <DADSGETNDOWN> I have extarcted the whole thing to a folder on my desktop..
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01:32:18 <DADSGETNDOWN> I always manually do this stuff so it's correct and not duplicated and have years..lol
01:32:30 <Yarukinasu> ahh, I see...
01:32:33 <DADSGETNDOWN> lol
01:33:34 <Yarukinasu> anyway, for me, I just extracted the packages folder to the DATA directory, and it works, so...
01:34:00 <DADSGETNDOWN> so, if I put the maps over in the same folder as where the downloaded maps are which is in the data directory, and yet put all the other stuff way over in the APP directory it will work too huh ?
01:34:19 <Yarukinasu> yes
01:34:38 <Yarukinasu> if that doesn't work, someone messed it up for sure
01:35:39 <Yarukinasu> but... I've been playing AC for times, and there is no map inside the maps folder in the APP directory
01:35:53 <Yarukinasu> just folders, and servermaps, official, and previews
01:36:51 <DADSGETNDOWN> it's also wierd that when you join a server and havae to download a map it goes from the incoming folder which is in the , F:\PortableApps\AssaultCubePortable\App\assaultcube\packages\maps\servermaps then moves it all the way over to the , F:\PortableApps\AssaultCubePortable\Data\settings\packages\maps directory.. lol
01:39:15 <DADSGETNDOWN> in my app dir, the maps folder has 5 maps and cfg's to match, and official folder with alot of maps, and a servermaps folder..same 5 maps as the maps folder.
01:40:12 <Yarukinasu> do they work...?
01:40:14 <Yarukinasu> or load?
01:42:07 <DADSGETNDOWN> yep
01:42:21 <Yarukinasu> Nice shot
01:43:18 <DADSGETNDOWN> and over in the Data\settings\packages\maps it has 28 objects, some are maps with matching cfg's some are just maps..
01:43:42 <Yarukinasu> the cfg files are the configuration for that map, such as fogs, textures, etc.
01:43:50 <Yarukinasu> to the corresponding name
01:45:07 <DADSGETNDOWN> right and it not only tells it what to lok for but where right ?
01:46:14 <Yarukinasu> sure...
01:50:11 <DADSGETNDOWN> so does it lok for the audio and textures and such in the same dir as the map like, APP , but what if the map is in APP and the rest of the stuff is in Data ?
01:50:51 <Yarukinasu> just add everything to the Data
01:50:55 <DADSGETNDOWN> lol
01:50:57 <Yarukinasu> ;_;
01:51:37 <DADSGETNDOWN> that;'s the simple way but according to the existing folder structure, may not be correct..
01:53:06 <DADSGETNDOWN> you see things like this not only make me wonder, but potentially cause problems.. or what not...
01:53:27 <Yarukinasu> I understand... and I've never really thought of that
01:53:31 <DADSGETNDOWN> if I got into it more, I would figure out what is right and wriong, and the problemsare..
01:53:31 <Yarukinasu> I just... play
01:53:41 <DADSGETNDOWN> hehe..
01:53:54 <Yarukinasu> well, I play and script, that's pretty much about it
01:54:01 <Yarukinasu> I don't make maps or anything..
01:54:03 <DADSGETNDOWN> well not sure how long AC has been out and how long it may last or if its dying..
01:55:09 <DADSGETNDOWN> but like Unreal tournament my iids and I might start map making or dong a little coding..
01:55:14 <DADSGETNDOWN> er kids!
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02:28:54 <DADSGETNDOWN> Yarukinasu do you have maps in the AssaultCubePortable\App\assaultcube\packages\maps folder ?
02:29:13 <Yarukinasu> nope
02:32:47 <DADSGETNDOWN> when you join a server and download the map or getmap where does it go ?
02:34:15 <Yarukinasu> it goes to the data directory
02:34:19 <DADSGETNDOWN> you know this community mappack does NOT come with textures ?..lol...what ? lol..
02:35:12 <DADSGETNDOWN> whoops. my fault...I LIED!
02:35:27 <Yarukinasu> lolwut... just join random servers, and you'll get full collections of maps...
02:35:32 <DADSGETNDOWN> <---LIAR....not on purpoose :D
02:35:57 <DADSGETNDOWN> and textures ?
02:36:04 <DADSGETNDOWN> and sounds ?
02:38:00 <DADSGETNDOWN> I have some maps in the Data\settings\packages\maps but they do not have cfg's to them,. you know why ?
02:38:22 <DADSGETNDOWN> I think they are the ones that were downloaded via in game.
02:39:53 <DADSGETNDOWN> maybe they don't need a cfg..
02:41:27 <Yarukinasu> maps don't need cfg...
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03:07:53 <DADSGETNDOWN> Is there a way to check if 2 maps with the same name, and same file size but different modified dates are identical or not ?..
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03:32:49 <JohnTHaller> hola
03:33:53 <DADSGETNDOWN> aloha
03:36:59 <DannyMuniz> hey John, how is it going?
03:41:13 <JohnTHaller> It's a-going
03:55:56 <JohnTHaller> Today's new release is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-03-20_-_frhed_portable_1.6.0_released
04:03:42 <mrmcpowned> oh cool a hex editor
04:03:52 <DannyMuniz> yea not bad
04:08:39 <Yarukinasu> looks as if it's a very simple hex editor, but hex editors are neat...
04:09:05 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, some people like em. And JW took the time to portablize it, so there it is
04:09:54 <Yarukinasu> very nice
04:12:08 <JohnTHaller> brb
04:12:12 <DannyMuniz> brb
04:16:07 <Yarukinasu> wow, this hex editor actually great
04:16:11 <Yarukinasu> it's nice
04:28:12 <JohnTHaller> cool
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09:10:14 <Guest63289> help
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11:40:42 <pa_6336> hello
11:42:18 <pa_6336> can i download and install all applications at the same time??
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16:20:12 <Fear941> Hello everyone
16:22:17 <Gizmokid2005> 'allo Fear941
16:23:09 <Fear941> I wanted to ask one thing, the new version of skype and open office is not in portable format. you will succeed? sorry but I do not speak English well
16:24:48 <Gizmokid2005> Fear941: Skype hasn't been officially updated to 5.2. It's still 5.1 if you go to the site.
16:25:20 <Gizmokid2005> Openoffice is not OpenOffice anymore. You can see here Fear941: http://portableapps.com/node/19705
16:27:13 <Fear941> But on the official website of the Open Office version 3.3.0 and is available on the official Skype version 5.2 is available
16:27:44 <Gizmokid2005> Fear941: OpenOffice is LibreOffice now.
16:27:52 <Gizmokid2005> and where do you think you see Skype OFFICIAL 5.2?
16:28:03 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/windows/5-1/
16:28:07 <Gizmokid2005> the download link takes you there.
16:28:13 <Gizmokid2005> it's NOT out as 5.2 yet.
16:28:28 <Fear941> http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/windows/5-2/
16:28:49 <Gizmokid2005> http://www.skype.com/intl/en-us/get-skype/on-your-computer/windows/ <-- use that link. It is NOT out.
16:29:35 <Fear941> I used your link but I get always the version 5.2
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16:35:33 <Gizmokid2005> Fear941: it's still 5.1 from the main site. It's not official yet.
16:41:07 <Fear941> ok then we'll wait, thanks good day
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19:17:43 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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19:25:05 <ZachThibeau> hey John
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19:25:56 <GizmoBot> ptmb knows a lot about HTML+CSS, besides that he is just a lunatic...
19:26:32 <JohnTHaller> hola
19:27:15 <ZachThibeau> whats new?
19:27:27 <ptmb> hello
19:27:33 <JohnTHaller> just a-workin
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20:31:07 <mrmcpowned> my donate button is coming along quite swell :D
20:31:41 <JohnTHaller> donate button?
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20:34:47 <pa_6809> hi, is there a way to download PA and all the tools in one link? or a simple way to get the tools i want to try other than manually downloading each one separetly?
20:35:18 <JohnTHaller> There will be in a few days :)
20:35:52 <JohnTHaller> The tools are already done and in the current beta, just disabled while we finish the visual polish, icons, etc. But the next update will have it enabled right in "Manage Apps"
20:36:06 <mrmcpowned> JohnTHaller: Yeah, fr my personal site
20:36:09 <mrmcpowned> for*
20:36:27 <pa_6809> thank you john
20:36:40 <pa_6809> that is good to hear
20:36:46 <JohnTHaller> Sure thing pa_6809. Just keep an eye on RSS, newsletter, facebook or twitter
20:36:49 <JohnTHaller> It'll be announced on all.
20:37:17 <mrmcpowned> JohnTHaller: I'm in need of a new pc, but i currently aint making the necessary amount of cash I need. It's not like I expect people to donate so soon, but it's a nice thing to have.
20:38:00 <JohnTHaller> Should have been out already, but we had quite a few releases. Being Mozilla's licensee for portable stuff entails us doing lots of additional language packs and the betas and release candidates and it's been a good amount of work leading up to 4.0 tomorrow.
20:38:44 <mrmcpowned> So 4.0 is doing live tomorrow?
20:38:58 <pa_6809> oh, i understand, keep the good work
20:39:12 <JohnTHaller> That's the plan, yes. The possible final builds are already going out to the release servers. We'll have it out within a few hours of Mozilla.
20:39:18 <JohnTHaller> pa_6809: Thanks, we will :)
20:39:29 <mrmcpowned> Oh that sounds fantastic :D
20:39:44 <pa_6809> btw is PA wine compatable?
20:40:19 <JohnTHaller> Yup :) We purposely build the platform and all our tools (updater, backup, installer, launcher, menu, etc) to work with Wine, so whenever the apps do, our packages do, too.
20:40:31 <mrmcpowned> Oh cool :D
20:40:48 <mrmcpowned> JohnTHaller: Ever though of offering PA dvd's?
20:40:55 <mrmcpowned> thought*
20:40:58 <JohnTHaller> We list Wine compatibility for most apps within the Download Details section (scroll down or click Download Details below the big Download button on each app page)
20:41:27 <JohnTHaller> Some apps, like FF4, require specific Wine settings (like setting Wine in Win2K mode due to its attempted hardware acceleration).
20:42:33 <pa_6809> thank you for being so kinde answering my questions
20:42:47 <JohnTHaller> Anytime, pa_6809. If you need anything else, just pop in and ask.
20:45:33 <pa_6809> can anyone give me the TRUE facebook page link? too many with the same name!!!
20:47:14 <JohnTHaller> http://facebook.com/portableapps
20:47:25 <JohnTHaller> Linked in the sidebar from most pages on PortableApps.com
20:49:06 <pa_6809> silly me
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21:00:32 <JohnTHaller> Today's new release is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-03-21_-_kobo_deluxe_portable_0.5.1_released
21:04:30 <mrmcpowned> Lol, more games xD
21:05:28 <JohnTHaller> What's wrong with games?
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21:11:51 <mrmcpowned> nothin, just a lot of them have been portabalized lately :)
21:12:04 <mrmcpowned> Cant wait for Portal 2 too
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22:36:40 <Jamster> hey guys wanted to ask a question
22:37:10 <Jamster> i know you always have a full plate
22:38:13 <Jamster> got a problem with xmaap
22:38:35 <Jamster> cant get the apache server to run
22:39:50 <Jamster> is there any thing else that runs Apache
22:40:14 <Jamster> doing a cisco class and need apache
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22:40:41 <ZachThibeau> first of all where is xampp stored on your device
22:41:02 <Jamster> on my sd card
22:41:09 <Jamster> 16gb
22:41:18 <ZachThibeau> root level?
22:41:25 <Jamster> yes
22:41:53 <ZachThibeau> like xampp portable needs xampp at Drive:/ and the launcher at Drive:/portableapps/xamppPortable
22:42:05 <ZachThibeau> if you can confirm that say so
22:42:45 <Jamster> I installed it at root like K:
22:43:00 <Jamster> and it installed a floder
22:43:53 <ZachThibeau> sounds like you could have a blocked port possibly, apache usually refuses to run if the port usually port 80 isn't open
22:44:04 <Jamster> with all the files for apache.ect
22:44:30 <Jamster> I did get a system 5 error
22:45:11 <Jamster> how do I open 80
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22:46:08 <Jamster> aaaaaaaaaaaaah dont leave me hanging now
22:46:10 <ZachThibeau> I would recommend asking the apache friends group since this is their territory
22:46:25 <Jamster> you da man bro
22:47:14 <Jamster> I do appricate this I know you guys are real tied up with other projects
22:47:55 <Jamster> you have a link to those guys
22:48:06 <ZachThibeau> can be found on the xampp portable page
22:48:51 <Jamster> like ice burg in iceland
22:48:53 <ZachThibeau> http://www.apachefriends.org/en/xampp-windows.html#641
22:48:57 <Jamster> coolness
22:49:04 <ZachThibeau> from there you can find a help link
22:50:37 <Jamster> may the birds of luck and prospairty shead lots of dropings on you
22:50:41 <Jamster> LoL
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23:48:05 <Alley^Away> ZachThibeau: as a sometimes simpler alternative, there's http://uniformserver.com/
23:48:59 <Alley^Away> doesn't integrate with portableapps I think, but has always been my simpler 'n' smaller alternative to xampp
23:49:45 <DannyMuniz> Alley^AwayJo: can it be made to work with PA.c Platform?
23:50:31 <OliverK|Away> that's a red herring
23:50:42 <Alley^Away> probably quite easily - but will need a tiny launcher app I guess
23:50:48 <OliverK|Away> you can put it in th eportableapps folder and have it be deteted
23:51:09 <OliverK|Away> but the platform doesn't make things portable, it has to be portable to begin with
23:51:19 <DannyMuniz> yea i know
23:51:49 <DannyMuniz> so who is goig to take stabe it to make it in PAF
23:52:22 <Alley^Away> it actually is fully portable, but never been made in PAF format
23:52:46 <DannyMuniz> ah ;")
23:53:00 <Alley^Away> I've even run it from a cd with just changing 5 lines in the configs, a few years back thou
23:54:30 <Alley^Away> I used to run support on the forums and even helped dev a few versions even further back - it was originally the smallest WAMP package out there, <5 mb back in those days :)
23:54:56 <DannyMuniz> :")
23:56:07 <Alley^Away> I can easily get the head devs approval of a PAF version, but am not quite up to do the .paf
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