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03:16:57 <MiffleZwip> question, Im runing windows 7 ultra win32 with the 2.0 beta 5 version and when I want to change the drive name it says it cant write to autorun.inf anyone know how to fix that?
03:17:39 <DannyMuniz> you can do it manually by opening the ini file if you want
03:17:58 <ZachThibeau> not if it's write protected which is his issue
03:18:18 <DannyMuniz> oh :"(
03:18:26 <ZachThibeau> you would need to right click the inf file and change the permissions so that it's writable and then you can edit it like that
03:19:10 <MiffleZwip> I tried that I have uac off
03:19:33 <OliverK> can you safely eject the drive?
03:20:02 <MiffleZwip> yes
03:20:23 <OliverK> okay, eject it and reinsert it
03:20:29 <MiffleZwip> also autorun inf seems to want to open with notepad is that normal?
03:20:30 <OliverK> don't start the menu or run anything
03:20:32 <OliverK> yes
03:20:36 <OliverK> its just a text file
03:20:56 <OliverK> change the "PortableApps.com" bit to whatever you want
03:21:01 <OliverK> save it, then restart the menu
03:21:08 <MiffleZwip> how do i get the icon into autorun features
03:21:16 <OliverK> after you've don't that, let us know if the issue persists
03:21:25 <OliverK> autorunning programs?
03:21:47 <MiffleZwip> to start portable apps
03:21:59 <MiffleZwip> in the autorun in control panel
03:22:23 <MiffleZwip> it doesnt show up in the 2.0 beta 5 ploatform install
03:23:40 <MiffleZwip> here is what I have now
03:23:43 <MiffleZwip> [Autorun] Open=StartPortableApps.exe Action=Start PortableApps.com Icon=PortableApps\PortableApps.com\App\Graphics\usb.ico Label=MiffleZwip
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03:24:25 <OliverK|Away> you can't autorun
03:24:31 <OliverK|Away> its been disabled by microsoft
03:24:59 <OliverK|Away> laters
03:25:03 <MiffleZwip> thanks
03:29:31 <MiffleZwip> still unable to write to autorun
03:30:25 <Computator> which permissions did you change?
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03:34:57 <Computator> MiffleZwip: there are two places for the permissions and you may have checked the wrong one
03:47:20 <MiffleZwip> hmm no permissions for the autorun.inf
03:47:32 <MiffleZwip> where does the autorun.ini go?
03:47:41 <Computator> inf you mean?
03:47:47 <Computator> in the root directory
03:47:50 <MiffleZwip> yes
03:47:52 <Computator> so x:\
03:48:07 <MiffleZwip> i read in the forums about autorun.ini too
03:48:14 <MiffleZwip> maybe thats the oldversion
03:48:24 <MiffleZwip> where are the two places to set permissions?
03:48:52 <Computator> well right click on the file and click properties
03:49:02 <MiffleZwip> if I right click the autorun.ini there is no tab for permissions
03:49:16 <MiffleZwip> er autorun.inf
03:49:18 <MiffleZwip> sorry
03:49:26 <Computator> ok
03:49:28 <Computator> good
03:49:35 <Computator> then it means there is only ine
03:49:39 <MiffleZwip> btw i have uac off
03:49:52 <Computator> one*
03:49:53 <Computator> ok
03:50:38 <Computator> at the bottom is there some checkboxes for read only system etc..
03:50:40 <Computator> ?
03:50:54 <MiffleZwip> yes but it keeps switching back
03:50:59 <Computator> hmmm
03:51:15 <Computator> so you uncheck the read only one and it changes back?
03:51:22 <MiffleZwip> and even when its set to read only off it still wont write to it this is a new install
03:51:35 <Computator> ok
03:51:40 <Computator> I have an idea
03:51:55 <Computator> double click the file to edit again
03:52:03 <MiffleZwip> ok
03:52:18 <Computator> but this time click save as and save it somewhere else (or to a different name)
03:53:06 <MiffleZwip> ok
03:53:15 <Computator> and then you can delete the original autorun file
03:53:26 <Computator> and then copy the one you saved back
03:53:39 <MiffleZwip> ok wait ill try it
03:53:45 <Computator> ok
03:54:27 <MiffleZwip> save as all files right?
03:54:34 <Computator> yeah
03:54:43 <MiffleZwip> with .inf
03:54:46 <Computator> yup
03:54:52 <Computator> the ini you saw was a typo
03:55:07 <Computator> or something like that
03:55:47 <MiffleZwip> ansi?
03:55:52 <MiffleZwip> or unicode?
03:56:06 <Computator> ummm, either should work
03:56:15 <Computator> whatever the default is
03:57:16 <Gizmokid2005> Unicode is safer
03:57:30 <Computator> ok
03:58:06 <Computator> i couldn't remember if autorun.inf files supported unicode on XP (in case it got used on there perchance)
03:59:55 <MiffleZwip> well it gets a new checkbox called archive
04:00:04 <Computator> ok good
04:00:10 <MiffleZwip> but even when I turn that off it still wont write to it
04:00:12 <MiffleZwip> maybe win 7?
04:00:26 <Computator> probably not
04:00:27 <mrmcpowned> Why not create a new inf?
04:00:33 <MiffleZwip> I did
04:00:40 <Computator> that's what doing that essentially did
04:00:42 <MiffleZwip> still the same
04:01:19 <MiffleZwip> in fact the usb isnt listed in the devices for autorun
04:01:19 <Computator> how about editing it and then saving it to a new file again
04:01:25 <MiffleZwip> i did that too
04:01:46 <Computator> except this time when you delete the old one just rename the new edited one
04:02:16 <Computator> that way it is already how you want it when it get's put there
04:03:15 <MiffleZwip> done but still the same
04:03:43 <MiffleZwip> hehe i been messing with this for 2 days
04:04:01 <Computator> lol
04:04:02 <MiffleZwip> I like geek menu too but i uninstalled it coz its too buggy still
04:04:05 <Computator> that's awhile
04:04:27 <Computator> well my guess then is that there might be something overwriting the file again
04:04:32 <MiffleZwip> btw where are you from?
04:04:39 <Computator> from?
04:04:47 <MiffleZwip> yes probaly in windows 7
04:05:00 <MiffleZwip> well im from america but i live in indonesia
04:05:18 <Computator> no it wouldn't be windows itself, mabye something else though like a virus
04:05:20 <Computator> oh ok
04:05:25 <Computator> I'm from america
04:05:56 <MiffleZwip> i even tried disconecting from the internet and shutting down all firewalls and av but still no luck hehe
04:06:18 <Computator> do you have another computer you could change it on?
04:06:31 <MiffleZwip> i think though its something with win 7 when I take it to work on an xp system it works just fine
04:06:50 <MiffleZwip> everything else works hehe
04:07:01 <MiffleZwip> so heck with it
04:07:05 <Computator> then it's probably a virus or something on your windows 7 one
04:07:10 <MiffleZwip> or as they say here tidak apa apa
04:07:22 <Computator> because I know for a fact that windows 7 itself wouldn't do that
04:07:28 <Computator> lol
04:07:28 <MiffleZwip> meand nevermind hehe
04:07:44 <Computator> cool
04:08:04 <MiffleZwip> yeah actualy im pretty impressed with win7
04:08:23 <MiffleZwip> first os from microcrap I have ever CONSIDERED buying
04:08:32 <MiffleZwip> i stress considered
04:08:32 <Computator> me too
04:08:34 <MiffleZwip> lol
04:08:47 <MiffleZwip> I still use it
04:09:00 <Computator> i use linux
04:09:15 <MiffleZwip> but at 10 million indonesian rupiah not a chance
04:09:23 <MiffleZwip> har matey!!!
04:09:28 <MiffleZwip> lol
04:09:37 <Computator> lol
04:09:39 <MiffleZwip> i do to
04:09:42 <Computator> yup tis expensive
04:09:47 <Computator> cool
04:09:59 <Computator> I use Ubuntu
04:10:08 <MiffleZwip> nice
04:10:09 <MiffleZwip> me too
04:10:22 <Computator> :)
04:10:40 <MiffleZwip> so does pa run on linux?
04:10:49 <Computator> under wine yes
04:11:02 <MiffleZwip> i see
04:11:16 <Computator> you know what wine is right?
04:11:19 <MiffleZwip> yes
04:11:22 <Computator> ok
04:11:24 <MiffleZwip> emulator
04:11:46 <Computator> well actually more of a wrapper but yeah
04:11:52 <MiffleZwip> I been around since the c64 days bro hehe
04:12:04 <MiffleZwip> oldtimer
04:12:22 <MiffleZwip> in fact i was one of the original developers for dalnet till we sold it
04:12:26 <MiffleZwip> wrote services
04:12:31 <MiffleZwip> ;)
04:12:33 <Computator> wine actually stands for Wine Is Not an Emeulator
04:12:35 <Computator> cool :)
04:12:58 <MiffleZwip> so you use windows as well?
04:13:03 <MiffleZwip> dual?
04:13:05 <Computator> i have an old tandy 201
04:13:07 <Computator> yeah
04:13:19 <Computator> although i only boot into windows about once a month
04:13:31 <Computator> but I know a to nabout it because I have used it a lot
04:13:33 <MiffleZwip> billy boy named it right windows.... coz windows break
04:13:35 <Computator> ton*
04:13:41 <Computator> lol
04:14:04 <MiffleZwip> so your an old timer too
04:14:06 <MiffleZwip> ;)
04:14:10 <Computator> nope
04:14:12 <Computator> i'm 18
04:14:18 <MiffleZwip> how did you get a tandy?
04:14:25 <MiffleZwip> my god thats old
04:14:31 <MiffleZwip> I remember my first amiga
04:14:42 <Computator> but I've been using computers since I was 3 or so and programming since i was nine
04:14:45 <Computator> yeah it is
04:14:53 <Computator> i found it at a thrift store
04:14:59 <MiffleZwip> coolness
04:15:02 <Computator> :)
04:15:13 <Computator> and I know basic too so I can use it
04:15:16 <MiffleZwip> can i pm you?
04:15:30 <Computator> sure *shrugs*
04:15:44 <MiffleZwip> i learned asembly and ml a long time abo but forgot most of it
04:16:27 <Computator> ml?
04:16:32 <Computator> i know assembly
04:21:14 <MiffleZwip> ml is all 1 & 0
04:21:29 <Computator> oh ,machine language
04:21:33 <MiffleZwip> yes
04:21:39 <Computator> i know some of that too for x86
04:22:35 <MiffleZwip> thats cool
04:22:52 <Computator> :)
04:22:56 <MiffleZwip> especialy for someone your age to want to learn old languages
04:23:06 <Computator> :)
04:23:12 <Computator> i think they are interesting
04:23:17 <MiffleZwip> yes they are
04:23:31 <MiffleZwip> but nowadays I dont have time for programing anymore
04:23:42 <MiffleZwip> except for flash and java
04:23:48 <Computator> oh ok
04:23:52 <MiffleZwip> if i need something not available
04:24:04 <Computator> i know java but i want to learn flash sometime
04:24:10 <MiffleZwip> i just wait and let the otherguys work it out hehehe
04:24:17 <Computator> it's like javascript right?
04:24:18 <MiffleZwip> and help em sometimes with advice
04:24:18 <Computator> lol
04:24:21 <Computator> yeah
04:24:31 <MiffleZwip> work smarter not harder
04:24:33 <MiffleZwip> ;)
04:24:37 <Computator> :)
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04:25:00 <Computator> cuz actionscript is what flash uses right?
04:25:08 <MiffleZwip> yup
04:25:19 <MiffleZwip> silverlight is interesting
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04:25:37 <Computator> ok cool, well flash shouldn't bee too hard then since i know javascript
04:26:12 <MiffleZwip> flash is eazy but I dont use corel (used to be macromedia) i use swish max
04:26:24 <MiffleZwip> easier
04:26:27 <Computator> hmmm
04:26:29 <Computator> ok
04:26:36 <MiffleZwip> same result
04:26:45 <Computator> cool
04:26:57 <MiffleZwip> you can get a coppy off my server
04:27:35 <WifiWombat> heya folks, let's keep things legal, k? :)
04:27:52 <MiffleZwip> its portable
04:27:55 <Computator> :)
04:28:21 <MiffleZwip> ok oliver sorry
04:28:30 <WifiWombat> no worries :)
04:28:31 <MiffleZwip> veeger will comply
04:28:48 <WifiWombat> I had to be annoying about things like that, but it is one of the rules
04:28:55 <Computator> :)
04:28:58 <MiffleZwip> ;)
04:29:10 <MiffleZwip> i understand Im asn ex founder of dalnet
04:29:14 <MiffleZwip> ;)
04:29:24 <WifiWombat> k
04:30:23 <MiffleZwip> so you think win 7 is whats stoping it from writing oli?
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04:31:04 <MiffleZwip> win blocked autorun hmmm
04:31:13 <Computator> ive done it myself on 7 it's not the problem i don't think
04:31:19 <MiffleZwip> not surprising they also blocked what you hear from sb
04:31:27 <Computator> it could be your AV but that's unlikely
04:31:37 <MiffleZwip> or rather told sound blaster to not include it in the new drivers
04:32:07 <MiffleZwip> well im using comodo firewall and ms security essentials
04:32:38 <Computator> I haven't used that one so idk
04:32:51 <MiffleZwip> I wonder when the PA v2.0 will have a suite
04:33:19 <MiffleZwip> i used to be a zone alarm freak but doesnt work well on win7
04:33:31 <MiffleZwip> too bad too
04:33:42 <MiffleZwip> I was a PAYING customer
04:33:43 <MiffleZwip> they lost me
04:33:51 <Computator> lol
04:35:30 <MiffleZwip> btw what network is this dalnet?
04:35:38 <WifiWombat> freenode
04:35:42 <MiffleZwip> ahh
04:35:46 <MiffleZwip> better
04:42:40 <MiffleZwip> well in win 7 there is no PA icon for autorun in the autorun popup
04:43:04 <Computator> yeah
04:43:09 <MiffleZwip> i did just install the platform and copy over the backup
04:43:09 <Computator> they disable that
04:43:44 <MiffleZwip> maybe a fresh install but that means alot of work lol
04:44:00 <MiffleZwip> just to find out it still doesnt work
04:44:53 <MiffleZwip> cant wait till they add categories like in the geek menu but the ones in geek menu dont work
04:45:06 <MiffleZwip> or at least get rid of the categories
04:45:11 <MiffleZwip> doesnt
04:45:50 <MiffleZwip> well im going back to work now its 12 noon herer
04:46:02 <MiffleZwip> and 98 degrees
04:46:08 <Computator> lol
04:46:10 <Computator> hot
04:46:12 <MiffleZwip> never gets cold here
04:46:23 <Computator> cool
04:46:25 <MiffleZwip> right on the equator
04:46:40 <MiffleZwip> the real spice islands
04:47:27 <MiffleZwip> kayu manis and cenke as well as a wealth of other spices grow here
04:47:29 <MiffleZwip> oops
04:47:35 <MiffleZwip> cinnamon and cloves
04:47:49 <Computator> cool
04:48:01 <MiffleZwip> hehe foregot you cant speak indonesian you wouldnt have a clue about kayu manis
04:48:09 <MiffleZwip> it meand wood sweet
04:48:15 <MiffleZwip> (sweet wood)
04:48:23 <MiffleZwip> but in the pasive
04:48:32 <Computator> hmmm
04:48:36 <Computator> interesting
04:49:19 <MiffleZwip> this is where chris columbus was trying to find but he found the carribean instead
04:49:25 <MiffleZwip> WAY off course
04:49:28 <Computator> yeah
04:49:31 <MiffleZwip> lol
04:49:35 <Computator> lol yup a long way
04:49:49 <MiffleZwip> yes 36 hours by plane
04:49:54 <MiffleZwip> from atlanta
04:50:06 <Computator> wow
04:50:09 <MiffleZwip> been here 8 years now
04:50:14 <MiffleZwip> love it
04:50:19 <Computator> cool
04:50:39 <MiffleZwip> home of bali
04:51:05 <MiffleZwip> its about 45 min flight from here or aq 4 hour drive
04:51:39 <MiffleZwip> but scary sometimes
04:51:50 <MiffleZwip> especialy after what happened in japan
04:51:57 <MiffleZwip> we are part of that system
04:52:03 <Computator> oh that's true
04:52:06 <MiffleZwip> indonesia is like hawaii
04:52:10 <MiffleZwip> all volcanoes
04:52:19 <Computator> oh lol
04:52:32 <Computator> cool
04:52:41 <MiffleZwip> im 3 hours from merapi
04:52:46 <Computator> well sorry but igtg :(
04:52:52 <MiffleZwip> but i have one thats semi active in my backyard almost
04:52:56 <Computator> lol
04:53:00 <MiffleZwip> 30 min from here
04:53:06 <MiffleZwip> me too got to go to work
04:53:13 <MiffleZwip> thans nice meeting you
04:53:16 <Computator> ok cool
04:53:17 <MiffleZwip> er thanks
04:53:18 <Computator> you too
04:53:26 <MiffleZwip> im lisdexic today
04:53:35 <Computator> lol :)
04:53:54 <MiffleZwip> welp see you soon .... PoOf!
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04:54:03 <Computator> lol
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06:04:11 <DannyMuniz> hey the new app of the day link is not working?
06:04:28 <DannyMuniz> http://portableapps.com/news/2011-03-23-_quick_cribbage_portable_3.2.4.1_released
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06:06:43 <DannyMuniz> nevermind its fixed
06:07:13 <DannyMuniz> Hola John como estas?
06:08:11 <JohnTHaller> nada interesante
06:08:20 <JohnTHaller> oh wait, heh
06:08:22 <JohnTHaller> sorry, sleepy
06:08:26 <DannyMuniz> lol
06:08:41 <DannyMuniz> ah pills are kicking in :"P
06:22:21 <DannyMuniz> JohnTHaller: you should take a look at this app and see if it could be made in PAF http://yoono.com/
06:23:14 <DannyMuniz> it runs Xulrunner, they do have a portable version but it is 110mb after decomprest
06:23:57 <JohnTHaller> Ow
06:24:08 <DannyMuniz> yea but it is a good app
06:24:22 <DannyMuniz> im using there portable version and it works great
06:24:44 <DannyMuniz> they did good in keeeping it portable just not in space wise
06:25:07 <DannyMuniz> they made the portable version to run on linux windows and osx
06:25:16 <JohnTHaller> Right, which is why it's huge
06:25:23 <DannyMuniz> yeap
06:25:25 <JohnTHaller> They should do a PAF. It'd be 1/3 the size
06:25:35 <JohnTHaller> Smaller with AppCompactor.
06:25:39 <DannyMuniz> yea
06:25:49 <JohnTHaller> Drop em a note :)
06:26:18 <DannyMuniz> i would have done it my self but it is similar to sunbird
06:26:41 <DannyMuniz> I will send them an e-mail in amin
06:26:46 <DannyMuniz> a min*
06:28:34 <DannyMuniz> and the other thing is that it is a ff and ggc addon so any one can use it
06:30:01 <DannyMuniz> lol witch of the e-mails should i use http://yoono.com/about.html
06:30:16 <JohnTHaller> partners
06:30:22 <DannyMuniz> ok cool
06:30:29 <DannyMuniz> thanks ^_^
06:32:18 <JohnTHaller> Oh yeah, today's release is out: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-03-23-_quick_cribbage_portable_3.2.4.1_released
06:32:24 <JohnTHaller> and the legacy firefox versions are up
06:35:47 <JohnTHaller> Ack. Yoono's EXE portable launcher is AutoIT which means false positives galore
06:36:11 <DannyMuniz> yea i know
06:36:28 <JohnTHaller> We can probably help them with that. Using PAL probably.
06:36:47 <DannyMuniz> i am wrighting them an e-mail now, and i will also explain that to them
06:37:24 <JohnTHaller> Be sure and let em know it's open source and free for them (since their app is free) and they'd then get listed on PA.c with exposure to around 5m users.
06:37:48 <DannyMuniz> wow o
06:37:50 <DannyMuniz> ok*
06:38:31 <JohnTHaller> AppCompacted, excluding the profile, it's 22MB and working.
06:38:33 <DannyMuniz> i think that they might have a cow when i tell them that
06:38:59 <DannyMuniz> nice
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06:41:19 <JohnTHaller> XULRunner apps are pretty easy to do using PAL, so they wouldn't have to maintain AutoIT code either.
06:44:52 <DannyMuniz> John im goig to send you a link to what i have written in a PM
06:45:03 <JohnTHaller> ok
07:01:13 <DannyMuniz> JohnTHaller: is there any way that a prototype of Yoono can be made with pal just to show them?
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07:04:13 <JohnTHaller> DannyMuniz: Yeah, we could.
07:04:20 <JohnTHaller> Alright, off for the night. Gnight all.
07:04:30 <DannyMuniz> night
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07:18:12 <DannyMuniz> brb
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23:31:49 <Jedrzej_s> hi
23:33:01 <Jedrzej_s> Does anybody know if Digicam will be in PortableApps ???
23:34:27 <agdurrette> is it in portable apps format?
23:37:11 <Jedrzej_s> no
23:37:48 <Jedrzej_s> Would be nice to have it portable
23:38:32 <agdurrette> you can request it here http://portableapps.com/forums/general/request_apps
23:39:05 <Jedrzej_s> ok, thx :)
23:39:31 <agdurrette> do you have a link to the Digicam homepage?
23:40:14 <Jedrzej_s> http://www.digikam.org/
23:41:35 <Jedrzej_s> agdurrette: It's one of the coolest project in open source ;)
23:41:59 <agdurrette> It looks interisting
23:42:44 <Jedrzej_s> People says: better than Google Picassa
23:42:55 <agdurrette> but i dont know if it will be possible to put it in PA.c format
23:43:30 <Jedrzej_s> On Win it's need KDE 'emulatio'...
23:43:42 <Jedrzej_s> *emulation
23:44:04 <agdurrette> i see the windows download
23:44:23 <Jedrzej_s> It's installed by 'KDE on Windows'
23:44:41 <Jedrzej_s> Little crazy for Win user...
23:46:04 <agdurrette> i'm downloading it now to take a quick look at it
23:53:35 <Jedrzej_s> Do you take it by KDE on Windows ?
23:54:30 <Jedrzej_s> Digikam installer it's something new... But it gives old release, 1.7
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23:59:19 <Jedrzej_s_> agdurrette: ?
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