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02:01:24 <pa_4104> does anyone here know about dealing with registry key?
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02:05:00 <pa_4104> guess i am alone on this one :(
02:05:34 <agdurrette> are you using PAL
02:05:41 <pa_4104> yes
02:06:12 <pa_4104> i read this http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/launcher/manual/topics/registry/?highlight=registry
02:06:44 <pa_4104> specifically the section on "Keys and values to ignore"
02:08:04 <pa_4104> wonder if this can be ignored HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Direct3D\MostRecentApplication\Name: "xxxxxxx.exe"
02:08:31 <pa_4104> any support would be appreciated
02:21:23 <pa_4104> no support?
02:23:25 <agdurrette> i'm a bit busy
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02:24:41 <agdurrette> have you you posted on the forum?
02:25:00 <Everest> There is a problem with Google Chrome Portable (Dev)
02:25:18 <Everest> http://portableapps.com/node/27475
02:25:52 <Everest> can someone confirm ?
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02:27:15 <agdurrette> pa_4104: if you post on the forum i can get to later
02:27:42 <pa_4104> ok thanks
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02:45:30 <JohnTHaller> New app replacement for Friday's missed app is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-04-05_-_popman_portable_1.3.1_released
02:47:04 <agdurrette> Hello JohnTHaller
02:47:08 <JohnTHaller> hi
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03:14:00 <agdurrette> people on #gpodder are not very helpful :/
03:16:59 <JohnTHaller> how so
03:25:36 <JohnTHaller> New app replacement for Saturday's missed app is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-04-05_-_scorched_3d_portable_43.2a_released
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03:48:36 <JohnTHaller> New app replacement for Sunday's missed app is up: http://portableapps.com/news/2011-04-05_-_tinytask_portable_1.45_released
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03:54:04 <JohnTHaller> Ok, as we're back at 126 new apps in 126 days, I'm going to bed. Gnight all.
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08:13:26 <pa_8095> hello
08:13:38 <pa_8095> it's possible iTunes Portable ???
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09:10:13 <pa_8095> gello
09:10:15 <pa_8095> hello
09:10:36 <pa_8095> it's possible division for categories (like Menu Mod.30) in to version 2.0 ???
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15:24:54 <DannyMuniz> hey guys! :")
15:26:06 <DannyMuniz> I am having a bit of trobble using PopManPortable, I can't get it to connect properly to retrive e-mailinformation
15:27:17 <DannyMuniz> i keep getting timeout error and connection failure; ErrCode: 401
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17:06:15 <vf2nsr> does anyone know coming languages and map has to support before it can be labeled as multilingual
17:06:24 <vf2nsr> map=app
17:07:55 <vf2nsr> okay let's try this again, does anyone know how many languages and application has to support before can be labeled as multilingual.... Man am I typoing today
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17:09:06 <kAlug> vf2nsr: more than one
17:09:32 <vf2nsr> thanks, that is what I thought. Back to work on making portable and application
17:11:23 <kAlug> vf2nsr: if that was not the case, the Languages field would have to support multiple languages
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17:18:51 <DannyMuniz> have you guys had any luck configuring PopMap
17:19:01 <DannyMuniz> PopMan**
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17:35:30 <thorbjorn> Hey.
17:36:06 <thorbjorn> I'm leading the Mana and The Mana World projects, and we would like to provide an updated version of The Mana World Portable.
17:36:31 <Gizmokid2005> thorbjorn: send an email to the developer contact on the contact us page :)
17:36:31 <thorbjorn> How does that work?
17:36:47 <thorbjorn> Ah, alright.
17:37:06 <Gizmokid2005> you can also post here: http://portableapps.com/node/19705
17:37:09 <Gizmokid2005> that it's updated
17:37:15 <Gizmokid2005> that'll give you the most visibility by doing both
17:37:17 <Gizmokid2005> enjoy! :)
17:38:29 <thorbjorn> Outdated Official? I don't know the person who put the current version online. It probably doesn't count as "Official". :)
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17:41:27 <thorbjorn> CodyMartin: Did you read http://portableapps.com/node/11772 ?
17:42:17 <thorbjorn> CodyMartin: Apparently we could put it there, but we should name it TheManaWorldPortable_0.5.1_Dev_Test_1_English.paf.exe first (not sure about the "English" part since we're multilanguage).
17:45:44 <CodyMartin> It has the splash screen from the old release included, not the "Development Test Splash Screen" as this site wants.
17:47:00 <thorbjorn> CodyMartin: Well, I don't know if that's really important.
17:49:38 <thorbjorn> CodyMartin: Or do you mean you'd like to skip the testing phase?
17:49:51 <thorbjorn> CodyMartin: I guess it's probably a good idea to make an official test release.
17:50:32 <CodyMartin> It has to be tested, because I did not test with the portableapps suite.
17:51:01 <thorbjorn> CodyMartin: Then we need a Dev_Test_1 build of the installer with that splashscreen.
17:54:03 <CodyMartin> Ok, I change the spash screen and name it TheManaWorldPortable_0.5.1_Dev_Test_1. My upload is very slow, so it will be ready in 15 minutes.
17:57:16 <DannyMuniz> you guys have to see this vid, http://tinyurl.com/6zrdf4f
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18:16:59 <CodyMartin> The installer has now the dev splash screen. The real splash is renamed to splash2.jpg. http://www.uni-bonn.de/~sdombrow/TheManaWorldPortable_0.5.1_Dev_Test_1.paf.exe
18:35:40 <thorbjorn> CodyMartin: Downloading. So now we should make a post about that here: http://portableapps.com/forums/development/beta_testing
18:36:48 <thorbjorn> I'll make a post using the template.
18:38:54 <CodyMartin> thorbjorn: Don't forget to mention that this is an offical release, because iceslice and 4144 have posted in that forum too.
18:39:20 <thorbjorn> CodyMartin: Where is iceslice's post? 4144 of course is named differently.
18:39:38 <CodyMartin> thorbjorn: http://portableapps.com/node/23604
18:39:41 <thorbjorn> CodyMartin: Anyway this whole forum is supposed to be only for the actual authors.
18:41:00 <thorbjorn> Hmm, so Mana Portable is underway since a year already.
18:41:18 <thorbjorn> CodyMartin: Should I use your download link?
18:42:51 <CodyMartin> thorbjorn: If you upload it to manasource it looks more offical, but I can keep the link alive so a couple of month.
18:43:08 <thorbjorn> CodyMartin: Ok I will put it there.
18:43:08 <CodyMartin> well, i hope it gets accepted in a couple of days
18:51:50 <DannyMuniz> guy you can also make a post here http://portableapps.com/node/11772 that John will see it, making it to be released faster
18:52:20 <thorbjorn> DannyMuniz: Alright, I'll add it there too then, thanks.
18:52:39 <DannyMuniz> no problem :")
18:52:46 <thorbjorn> DannyMuniz: But when he makes an official release, the splash screen should be different, right? Will he then ask us to make one with the right splash screen?
18:53:12 <DannyMuniz> he makes it
18:53:58 <DannyMuniz> John will add a deferent splash ones it is officialy released
18:55:05 <DannyMuniz> it will have an updated splash with the new design
18:55:22 <thorbjorn> So there's first of all the post in the beta forum: http://portableapps.com/node/27490
18:57:52 <thorbjorn> Oh crap, forgot to mention anything about the previous version.
18:58:13 <DannyMuniz> also note that this has to be tested by other users and hope that they would post feadback on it
18:58:58 <DannyMuniz> that will also help to push it to official release faster aslong as it is all good feadback
19:00:21 <DannyMuniz> you guys can also host it in http://www.mediafire.com/
19:00:55 <thorbjorn> Nah hosting isn't a problem.
19:01:17 <thorbjorn> So basically, I was the one testing this release and CodyMartin built it.
19:02:23 <thorbjorn> Hmm, the comment template here is messed up: http://portableapps.com/node/11965
19:02:43 <thorbjorn> Contains <pre> and has the HTML all encoded.
19:03:09 <thorbjorn> Well, copying it out of the preview works. :)
19:03:31 <thorbjorn> Ok but probably I shouldn't use that template anyway.
19:06:45 <thorbjorn> Wow somebody else commented in the same minute.
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19:07:14 <DannyMuniz> Yea that is John for you
19:08:00 <thorbjorn> Nice. :)
19:08:26 <DannyMuniz> so yea you could make your own splash or he can make it if you want
19:08:35 <thorbjorn> CodyMartin: So what do you think? He's offering to update the splashscreen.
19:08:59 * DannyMuniz I will be back soon, I have to go to the Pharmacy.
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19:09:58 <CodyMartin> Yeah, very nice. He can update the splash as he likes. And we don't use the registry, so a regshot will not show any leave-behinds.
19:10:23 <thorbjorn> CodyMartin: Right, our installer does, but the one you made doesn't?
19:11:58 <DannyMuniz[AWAY]> lol I see that you did not get to post it at "Apps Ready For Official Release,"
19:13:02 <thorbjorn> CodyMartin: You haven't tested upgrade, right?
19:14:00 <CodyMartin> thorbjorn: No, I upgrade my portable apps by deleting the old one first.
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19:15:54 <CodyMartin> thorbjorn: or maybe I don't understand what you mean with upgrade
19:17:19 <thorbjorn> CodyMartin: Talking about "And I think it will properly upgrade an old install as well (which is key with updates)."
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19:18:02 <CodyMartin> thorbjorn: I don't see a reason an old install will hurt. But it will download the world data again. But tmw made a good job in keeping the updates small. I test it.
19:18:28 <thorbjorn> CodyMartin: You mean on upgrade the data will get deleted?
19:23:00 <thorbjorn> I guess maybe I shouldn't have tried to explain my position regarding Mana / The Mana World, heh.
19:30:49 <CodyMartin> thorbjorn: Overwriting an old version shows names of other players in green. No idea how that can happen.
19:31:10 <thorbjorn> CodyMartin: No idea.
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20:03:59 <CodyMartin> thorbjorn: To allow upgrades I fear we have to make another version. I guess with [FilesToRemove] we can remove the old config.xml and tmw.log. And the dataDir should be changed to the same as the configDir, because then the already downloaded updates can get reused.
20:07:46 <thorbjorn> CodyMartin: Is this cause updates are in the logs directory?
20:09:22 <CodyMartin> yes! I don't think we need a logs directory. Changing this is easy with the portable.xml, so no compiling is needed.
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20:27:49 <DannyMuniz> thorbjorn: CodyMartin: Yes you do have to make a nother installer to remove those files
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20:29:06 <CodyMartin> I have tested with the new version and upgrades now work. Upload will be finished in 9 minutes 42 seconds.
20:29:19 <DannyMuniz> ok cool
20:29:45 <DannyMuniz> the sooner all the bugs get fixed the sooner it will be out
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20:30:20 <DannyMuniz> hey gluxon! :")
20:30:28 <gluxon> Hey.
20:31:45 <thorbjorn> CodyMartin: So you called that Dev_2?
20:32:01 <thorbjorn> CodyMartin: Please describe the exact changes, so I can list those when updating the beta forum post.
20:32:33 <DannyMuniz> i hope he named it dev_2?
20:33:21 <CodyMartin> Yes, I did. Even if the name is wrong, it is ftp, so I can easily change it.
20:34:39 <DannyMuniz> yes you can do that but remember that the AppInfo.ini also has to say Dev_2
20:41:47 <Alley^Away> any news on translation updates?
20:43:55 <DannyMuniz> Alley^Away: have you given this app a try, its for translating. http://portableapps.com/node/27069
20:44:04 <CodyMartin> I have found nothing in the format docu where in AppInfo.ini it has to say it is a dev version.
20:44:06 <CodyMartin> thorbjorn: http://www.uni-bonn.de/~sdombrow/TheManaWorldPortable_0.5.1_Dev_Test_2.paf.exe It now deletes tmw.log and config.log. Furthermore logs and updates are now written in the settings folder (so old updates get reused).
20:44:07 <DannyMuniz> well it helps you with it
20:44:51 <CodyMartin> s/config.log/config.xml
20:44:53 <Alley^Away> DannyMuniz: sure, got it installed, but don't really need it
20:45:16 <DannyMuniz> cool! :") that is one of my projects
20:45:55 <Alley^Away> but if I'm to update danish for PA.c upcoming I'll need the lang file(s) - got an hour to spare right now, otherwise won't be looking at it until sometime next week
20:46:10 <Alley^Away> if even then
20:48:15 <DannyMuniz> hmm that sucks
20:49:38 <DannyMuniz> unfortianate I speack and read spanish but I can't spell ither of them, not even to save my own life! :"P
20:50:24 <CodyMartin> thorbjorn: That means changes are: The installer.ini has now a [FilesToRemove] section and the portable.xml has changed.
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21:01:49 <thorbjorn> DannyMuniz: Am I supposed to edit the topic for dev 2 or should I make a new post?
21:02:12 <DannyMuniz> just edit the topic
21:02:16 <thorbjorn> Alright.
21:02:40 <DannyMuniz> it will show as an update in the main forum
21:03:00 <DannyMuniz> in the time line that is
21:03:07 <thorbjorn> Ok.
21:04:07 <DannyMuniz> don't forget to add what the changes are
21:04:19 <thorbjorn> Sure, doing that now.
21:04:27 <DannyMuniz> ok :")
21:07:15 <thorbjorn> Updated: http://portableapps.com/node/27490
21:08:29 <DannyMuniz> nice
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21:19:31 <DannyMuniz> BRB
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21:27:29 <GizmoBot> sar3th hopes he will have more time for pa soon :/
21:37:12 <DannyMuniz[AWAY]> hey sar3th! :")
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21:43:10 <sar3th> hello DannyMuniz
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22:25:48 <Gizmokid2005> gimme_p: ZachThibeau looks to be the only mod currently on.
22:26:17 <gimme_p> ok thanks Gizmokid2005
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23:44:17 <DannyMuniz> well guys im out for now latter
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