IRC Log from 2011-04-11

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03:39:25 <pa_7998> Can anyone help me with a general PC problem?
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03:42:59 <ChrisMorgan> pa_7998: this isn't the place for general issues. We deal with portable software.
03:43:54 <pa_7998> It's not really an issue. It is a question about backing up something. Eveyone else I've asked has been unhelpful.
03:45:30 <OliverK> try asking. If someone can help, they might
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03:56:50 <JohnTHaller> New Status Update posted: http://portableapps.com/blogs/johnhaller/2011-04-10_status_update
03:57:57 <Gizmokid2005> JohnTHaller: nice update
03:58:06 <Gizmokid2005> you're going to fix the scrolling bug in 2.0 I hope?
03:58:17 <JohnTHaller> which one?
03:58:35 <JohnTHaller> The slow animation effect? It's already fixed in my internal build
03:58:40 <Gizmokid2005> yeah :)
03:58:41 <Gizmokid2005> that one
03:58:47 <Gizmokid2005> that's still driving me up the wall
03:58:58 <JohnTHaller> Heh. Still not sure why it only affects some PCs
03:59:10 <Gizmokid2005> I favorited many more apps than I really need to/use because of it.
03:59:26 <Gizmokid2005> just to reduce scrolling..esp since i can't press a letter and scroll automatically to that part of the menu
04:00:58 <JohnTHaller> Well, the animation effect is gone. And scrolling by letter should make it into a final build within the next 2 releases
04:02:21 <Gizmokid2005> good to hear. There's not a whole lot more I can think of from a user perspective to add really...scrolling (END+HOME as well), jump by letter, and categories are the big things
04:03:16 <JohnTHaller> gonna add an optional scroll bar at some point. From a design perspective, it's kinda ugly, though
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04:04:16 <ChrisMorgan> Sure is.
04:04:48 <Gizmokid2005> I can see that, though there should be a way to make it blend in with the theme enough to not be too bad.
04:05:04 <JohnTHaller> I have a great component for scrolling that would look really nice... but it's not open source :(
04:05:26 <ChrisMorgan> What is it?
04:05:30 <Gizmokid2005> figures
04:05:37 <Gizmokid2005> that's how it always is these days
04:06:32 <JohnTHaller> Think it was this one: http://www.tmssoftware.com/site/advsmoothscrollbar.asp Not sure offhand.
04:11:25 <JohnTHaller> A lot of the things we'd like to have added at some point have some paid controls available. But using them would mean going partially closed source, which would not be a happy thing.
04:13:42 <JohnTHaller> Alright, must sleep. Another big coding day tomorrow. Gnight all.
04:13:49 <Gizmokid2005> requiring a non-free copy of delphi is bad enough :P
04:13:50 <Gizmokid2005> night JohnTHaller
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04:19:09 <agdurrette> Has John been on lately?
04:19:57 <agdurrette> oh just missed him :(
04:20:16 <agdurrette> :|
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06:10:41 <GizmoBot> sar3th hopes he will have more time for pa soon :/
06:10:58 <sar3th> "As our users will automatically receive upgrades from here on out, we won't need as prolonged a test period or to do as monumental (and time-consuming) updates as we have been."
06:11:21 <sar3th> ...wait...that means because we have the auto-updater, we won't be testing the new releases as mucht?
06:11:24 <sar3th> lame
06:30:00 <ChrisMorgan> sar3th: the correct reading is that "making a new release isn't such a big deal as people can upgrade easily. Thus we can have a much faster release cycle."
06:53:48 <ChrisMorgan> PADT question: when it comes to INI validation, should style (whitespace and order) matter?
06:54:15 <sar3th> ah, that makes much more sense, thanks
06:54:34 <sar3th> ini-style? well, not really
06:54:43 <sar3th> if it's key=value pairs it should be fine
06:56:02 <ChrisMorgan> With PAL, order hasn't been enforced much at all - it's too freeform for that. But with appinfo.ini, we have rigid order. And we do definitely have a distinct INI style standard.
06:56:54 <sar3th> you mean order as in sequence, right?
06:57:27 <ChrisMorgan> Yep
06:58:53 <sar3th> hm, according to normal ini conventions, that shouldn't matter
07:01:23 <ChrisMorgan> Oh, sure. But we like things to be polished as carefully as possible :-)
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09:28:16 <Kevin___> I had difficulties finding the correct place to contact you so I thought this might be the right place
09:29:04 <Kevin___> It's just about a link I'd like to have removed...
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19:18:43 <meemoo> hi, I want to give specific icons to folders on my usb device but they don't stick (properties change whenever the drive letter does). Help?
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19:33:11 <sar3th> meemoo: persistent folder icon customizations require a little more effort than usual things, if you want, i can try to help you with that. but the simple answer is that there is no easy way to do it
19:40:01 <meemoo> sar3th, thanks. I used the desktop.ini files in the portableapps.com suite as a basis and modified it
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19:46:03 <sar3th> meemoo: you need to 1) use relative paths in these files and 2) copy the icon files to your flashdrive
19:46:39 <meemoo> sar3th, got it. Looks like it works
19:46:53 <sar3th> example: WDLOGO.ICO; copy the file to the folder you want to have the icon, then set ICON=WDLOGO.ICO in the desktop.ini :)
19:46:59 <sar3th> good :D
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20:20:57 <GizmoBot> ptmb knows a lot about HTML+CSS, besides that, he is just a lunatic...
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23:19:13 <DannyMuniz> hi Chris! :")
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23:21:18 <DannyMuniz> ChrisMorgan: are you going to make a icon for PA.c DTK or are you going to use the one that it alredy has?
23:21:37 <ChrisMorgan> I had not planned on changing it.
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23:22:46 <DannyMuniz> I have put together a .psd file that has diferent options in it, if you are interested. :")
23:23:05 <DannyMuniz> they are from Oxygen just incase
23:24:38 <ChrisMorgan> Why do you think it should be changed?
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23:25:07 <DannyMuniz> to diferintiat it from all the other tools that use the same icon
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23:30:21 <ChrisMorgan> DannyMuniz: I may as well have a look at it; you definitely have a point (PAI and PAL both use it) - but psd won't be any good to me unless the GIMP can open it.
23:30:33 <OliverK> ChrisMorgan: it can
23:30:34 <ChrisMorgan> I think you have or should be able to find my email address.
23:30:52 <OliverK> but it converts text to images, last time I tried
23:31:02 <DannyMuniz> yes i maid it in gimp but saved it as .psd
23:31:03 <ChrisMorgan> OliverK: I know it can to a certain degree, depends on what features he uses (and can the GIMP open CS5 PSDs? No idea.)
23:31:37 <ChrisMorgan> Not everyone uses Photoshop ;-)
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23:31:56 <DannyMuniz> i sertingly don't use Photoshop
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23:34:47 <DannyMuniz> ChrisMorgan: can i send you the link for dowload in a PM?
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