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01:53:35 <Scriptdaemon> ... That doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
01:54:29 <Scriptdaemon> I'm working on the latest version of Maxima. In the maxima.bat file, maxima_prefix is defined as the installation directory. I completely remove that, and somehow maxima_prefix is still defined.
02:00:48 <Scriptdaemon> Ah, I had to unset it.
02:03:49 <Scriptdaemon> I'm about ready to give up on Maxima. There's no reason for it to not work, yet the maxima process keeps terminating.
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02:08:49 <ChrisMorgan> Scriptdaemon: got Linux and Wine at all?
02:10:02 <ChrisMorgan> Wine can be very handy for things like that, because while in Windows there's no easy way of getting the process's stdout/stderr once it's in the window subsystem, in Wine you get it automatically (and various Wine debug messages which can be very helpful - e.g. it'll tell you what CRT is missing when Windows will just fail silently or if run directly say it failed to run)
02:10:28 <Scriptdaemon> Not on my laptop.
02:10:54 <ChrisMorgan> Does running maxima.exe directly work?
02:11:50 <ChrisMorgan> What happens when you run it (directly if that doesn't work or via the launcher if it does)? (a) doesn't start or vanishes within a second, (b) starts and stays running for a bit, then exits, (c) other
02:14:55 <Scriptdaemon> It worked before I uninstalled the local copy (because the maxima_prefix env var was set to the local install path), and since then it hasn't been working. I learned that Windows 7 doesn't like spaces in %dp0.. apparently, so I tried commenting out that line in the maxima.bat file and let PAL take care of it.
02:15:22 <Scriptdaemon> Using process explorer, PAL sets the env var to what it should be, yet it still doesn't want to work.
02:15:30 <ChrisMorgan> %dp0.. -> "%dp0.."?
02:15:37 <Scriptdaemon> Tried that too.
02:25:08 <Scriptdaemon> I'm taking a break from this.
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02:31:17 <Scriptdaemon> ChrisMorgan, I have a question about language switching for Bos Wars. They have language files for the same itself and for the engine, defined by different values in a config file. They generally share the same nameing scheme for both, except the english files are completely different from each other (bos.pot and engine.pot). Do you have any idea how to go about doing custom code for this?
02:31:27 <Scriptdaemon> game*
02:31:57 <ChrisMorgan> The pot files are templates. The English has no file.
02:32:05 <ChrisMorgan> The strings are embedded in the program.
02:32:14 <Scriptdaemon> Ah, hmm.
02:32:26 <ChrisMorgan> CheckIfExists and DefaultIfNotExists=en
02:37:38 <Scriptdaemon> ChrisMorgan, StratagusTranslation="languages/engine.pot", GameTranslation="languages/bos.pot"
02:37:50 <Scriptdaemon> When I set it back to English, that's what those values are set to.
02:37:54 <Scriptdaemon> Are they just dummy values then?
02:38:53 <Scriptdaemon> Hmm, nvm. Looks like it.
02:38:54 <ChrisMorgan> Eek. It really does that? That's actually slightly bad. They may or may not be dummy values, but you probably want to be able to deal with them so that you can use [LanguageFile] to read them if the language is changed inside the app.
02:40:56 <Scriptdaemon> Yeah.
02:41:29 <Scriptdaemon> Turns out they are dummy values though, because changing them (to something that doesn't exist) still loads it in English.
02:50:47 <Scriptdaemon> Also, using a lua file as a config file is a really bad idea.
03:05:53 <ChrisMorgan> Oh, I don't know. I don't see anything wrong with it so long as an error doesn't break the app.
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07:56:01 <Kiriko> do any of you know of a free registry editor that is simple to use but very helpfull
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08:52:06 <Kiriko> ChrisMorgan: What did you think of the icon i gave you
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09:20:03 <ChrisMorgan> Kiriko: I've come up with an idea or two of my own, going more with the "package" aspect of it
09:20:42 <Kiriko> what do you mean?
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09:23:45 <Kiriko> that is odd im login twoce??
09:23:57 <Kiriko> brb
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09:25:36 <DannyMuniz> ok that is better
09:26:59 <DannyMuniz> ChrisMorgan: Do you mean that you are going to make something similar to what i made with PAD Kit?
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09:28:23 <ChrisMorgan> DannyMuniz: no idea as I haven't seen that.
09:28:44 <xl362002> ?
09:28:57 <xl362002> hi
09:29:25 <xl362002> hi man！
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09:29:45 <DannyMuniz> Ok PAD Kit is just a multy program launcher that includes the ini templates
09:32:02 <ChrisMorgan> DannyMuniz: I mean I haven't seen its icon
09:32:17 <DannyMuniz> oh oh ok
09:32:25 <DannyMuniz> well i used the same icon you did
09:32:59 <DannyMuniz> exept i removes the usb drive and only used the chrome cirrcle
09:33:47 <DannyMuniz> give me a sec ill get the link for the file in a min
09:38:38 <DannyMuniz> this is the one i put together for you http://www.mediafire.com/file/nlu6hn73j27k2rd/PA.c_DTK.psd
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09:44:09 <ChrisMorgan> DannyMuniz: I got that, I'm asking about "what i made with PAD Kit"?
09:46:52 <DannyMuniz> ChrisMorgan: ok PAD Kit is made with this http://www.longtion.com/autorunenterpriseii/autorunpro.htm
09:48:33 <ChrisMorgan> DannyMuniz: I was talking about the icon
09:49:13 <DannyMuniz> i made the i con with Gimp
09:49:19 <DannyMuniz> icon*
09:50:17 <DannyMuniz> and i used the Oxygen icons with PA.c old USB image
09:53:44 <DannyMuniz> ChrisMorgan: Do you have the new USB icon without the orb infront of it?
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09:58:52 <ChrisMorgan> Not currently
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10:00:19 <DannyMuniz> that sucks... you only need the USB by it self and you can replace the one I used with the new one
10:05:00 <ChrisMorgan> The new logo isn't yet in general usage; only in some utilities, not in the new site or the press material or any such stuff.
10:06:38 <DannyMuniz> yea i know that is why I had to cut and paste just the orb for my PAD Kit, that is the only part of it that i used
10:07:06 <DannyMuniz> John showed me the site and it look great! XD
10:10:09 <ChrisMorgan> It does look pretty good.
10:10:35 <ChrisMorgan> At first I had some reservations, but the more I looked at it the more I liked it... as is often the way with redesigns.
10:10:53 <DannyMuniz> lol yea that is true
10:13:08 <DannyMuniz> the one thing i can't wait is for the new upgrade of Drupal..
10:20:56 <Alley^Away> is it still wednesday anywhere?
10:21:43 <DannyMuniz> not for me, It is 6:20AM and I have to go to bed soon
10:21:45 <DannyMuniz> lol
10:22:06 <Alley^Away> hehe
10:22:59 <DannyMuniz> I need me some more coffee before I go to bed, all I need now is some donuts
10:23:44 <Alley^Away> I got an hour or 2 now, but still no pa.c lang file... oh well, maybe I find time again next week
10:25:07 <DannyMuniz> Im waiting for a reply for a peiodic table program
10:26:17 <DannyMuniz> periodic table***
10:27:09 <Alley^Away> periodic table 'program'?
10:27:21 <Alley^Away> ain't it just a ... table?
10:28:12 <Alley^Away> heh, that problem w/ Skype having to log in twice - I got that on the new version too
10:28:13 <DannyMuniz> yea but it provide great information about the chemicals and the people that discoverd it and there properties
10:28:34 <Alley^Away> ah ok - I always just wiki it, but ok
10:29:33 <DannyMuniz> http://www.crystalmountainsoftware.com/
10:29:41 <Alley^Away> I wonder if the problem with skype involves the firewall permission - I did allow it before trying first login, but sen it happen a few times before with earlier versions too
10:29:56 <Alley^Away> s/sen/seen*
10:30:36 <Alley^Away> ok, nice - doesn't really need it anyway hehe, but cool
10:31:24 <DannyMuniz> the thing is that i have been thinking of puting together a suite for school kids
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10:59:22 <DannyMuniz> man there are just to programs that i would like to see as official release and that is LMMS and avidmux
11:06:14 <DannyMuniz> wow this is nice http://www.librecad.org/
11:09:59 <DannyMuniz> well im out guys, it is good night for me even though it is morning. :"P
11:10:34 <DannyMuniz> latter guys
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12:06:06 <pa_0648> when is opera going to be updated?
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12:42:19 <pa_7594> @ChrisMorgan hello, can I update the portable apps version of opera by simply switching the .exe file?
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17:47:19 <Alcsar> Hi, anyone know a file recovery tool that doesn't require admin rights?
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17:47:20 <GizmoBot> ptmb knows a lot about HTML+CSS, besides that, he is just a lunatic...
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18:00:40 <Alcasar> hi
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19:06:03 <WLP|Away> Is there a known compatibility problem between Portable Firefox and the Session Manager extension? SM doesn't seem to be working. It loads. It's menus work. But sessions don't load. :(
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20:17:55 <pa_7904> i am trying to create my first portable app, can some send me in the right direction to start doing that?
20:18:20 <sar3th> pa_7904: read the field guide: http://portableapps.com/node/14868 :)
20:18:34 <sar3th> ask here if you have any questions or need help :)
20:18:40 <pa_7904> I will give that a try! Thanks
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21:42:55 <GordCaswell> ChrisMorgan: I forgot about noting permission for VirusTotal & Balabolka. it's noted now for both
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23:28:28 <george_> anybody know more than i do abt the PAM RC release date?
23:28:43 <george_> Waiting is horrible :-)
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23:31:54 <george_> what was that?
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23:33:52 <george__> again? is freenode having issues? I keep getting kicked off
23:40:44 <gluxon> george__: I haven't had issues.
23:41:31 <george__> I just got booted twice- something about NickServ
23:41:55 <gluxon> george__: The only one who knows more about the PortableApps.com Platform 2.0 RC release is John.
23:42:05 <gluxon> Everyone else just knows it's coming later this week.
23:42:44 <george__> Ok. had to ask
23:43:00 <gluxon> george__: If you logged in as "george", that nickname was likely taken already.
23:45:20 <george__> I know, it always renames me. Maybe george_ was registered while i was on right now, and it kicked me off that too
23:47:31 <george__> Sorry i signed in just to bug about the PAM. I've been anxiously waiting since 2b5, and just cant wait until the RC/final gets out.
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