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09:41:04 <pa_9894> help
09:41:05 <GizmoBot> pa_9894: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
09:41:46 <pa_9894> you are not allowed to write to the registry (what can I do)
09:44:07 <benedikt93> ? You should not leave stuff in the registry, but you can have a launcher copy data there before the application is started and back it up again after it finished. PAL (see the developement page) can do this for you
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09:45:36 <benedikt93> of course you need to take care of locally installed versions of the application (i.e. backup there data for the runtime of the portable version), but PAL does so by default
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15:39:20 <pa_4986> Is there any way arounf autorun.inf being detected/blocked by antivirus?
15:40:03 <sar3th> not really
15:40:37 <pa_4986> so just run the .exe should be fine
15:40:41 <sar3th> yes
15:40:51 <pa_4986> thx!
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19:25:48 <JohnTHaller> Hey guys
19:26:04 <sar3th> hello JohnTHaller
19:26:09 <JohnTHaller> How goes it?
19:27:26 <sar3th> okay so far
19:27:34 <ZachThibeau> hey John
19:32:17 <agdurrette> Hi
19:33:15 <JohnTHaller> So you guys are familiar with the current themes in the 2.0 Beta 5 build. Including the default theme: http://portableapps.com/files/forumimages/platform2b5/ThemeDefault.png
19:33:28 <JohnTHaller> And the dark theme: http://portableapps.com/files/forumimages/platform2b5/ThemeDark.png Correct?
19:33:36 <gluxon> Yep.
19:33:45 <agdurrette> kinda
19:33:45 <ZachThibeau> yeah
19:34:04 <gluxon> They aren't making it into 2.0 final, right?
19:34:27 <JohnTHaller> They are. But we've been debating an updated look as the default.
19:34:30 <JohnTHaller> Less 3d
19:35:43 <agdurrette> I think we should have a poll for a 3d ish one and a flat one
19:36:04 <gluxon> agdurrette: We haven't seen the flat one yet though.
19:36:34 <JohnTHaller> Lemme screenshot a possibility...
19:37:28 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/PAThemeTest1.png
19:39:01 <agdurrette> :D I like
19:39:13 <gluxon> Heh, LibreOffice.org Portable Math :P
19:39:43 <gluxon> It's hard to decide between those two.
19:39:43 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, the .org is a typo in the current one
19:44:00 <JohnTHaller> Any thoughts on the new design?
19:44:39 <agdurrette> I like it but think it could be a bit lighter
19:46:53 <gluxon> Yeah, I agree with agdurrette. :)
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19:50:19 <JohnTHaller> http://portableapps.com/temp/PAThemeTest2.png
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19:51:34 * benedikt93 would prefer the darker version, though it somehow looks..pale
19:52:04 <gluxon> Hm.. looks nice, but I'd have to go with Test1.
19:52:08 <benedikt93> but I definitly prefer it over the current default
19:52:13 <gluxon> LibreOffice Math dissapeared :'(
19:52:26 <agdurrette> :P
19:53:00 <JohnTHaller> We'd do a white version as well: http://portableapps.com/temp/PAThemeTest3.png
19:53:17 <gluxon> When you're using Ctrl + Tab to compare the two, the dissapearing of a menu entry is pretty noticable. :P
19:53:59 <gluxon> Test 1's starting to grow on me.
19:55:02 <agdurrette> My fav is test 3
19:55:19 <benedikt93> nope, 1 :P
19:55:35 <gluxon> 1
19:55:40 <JohnTHaller> I've got our designer looking into it now, too
19:55:53 <sar3th> 3 looks best, it's not as dark as the other ones
19:56:21 <Guest77719> blast
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19:56:57 <benedikt93> I like these showing more edges than the previous themes
19:57:17 <JohnTHaller> benedikt93: Not sure what you mean
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20:00:44 <JohnTHaller> This is just the default theme (may call it glow). You'll still be able to select other colors as well with this new chrome: http://portableapps.com/temp/PAThemeTest4.png
20:02:10 <JohnTHaller> As well as background images: http://portableapps.com/temp/PAThemeTest5.png
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20:03:43 <gluxon> Sweet :D
20:03:55 <benedikt93> JohnTHaller, the edges appear softer to me in the old themes, probably due to lower contrasts
20:04:19 <gluxon> benedikt93: I think it's because of the border.
20:04:25 <benedikt93> or the shadows
20:04:26 <JohnTHaller> benedikt93: Ah ok. Yeah, that's due to the beveling affect. They contrast more now, so look more defined. They're actually unchanged.
20:04:39 <JohnTHaller> (the beveling affect we removed, that is)
20:06:00 <JohnTHaller> Compare that rainbow image: http://portableapps.com/temp/PAThemeTest5.png to the one with the old chrome: http://portableapps.com/files/forumimages/platform2b5/ThemeRainbow.png
20:06:09 <JohnTHaller> (though it's dark bg vs white of course)
20:08:35 <gluxon> I miss the reflection affect.
20:08:46 <JohnTHaller> reflection?
20:10:22 <gluxon> On the old Rainbow theme, the theme becomes lighter between ClamWin Portable and CoolPlayer+ Portable.
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20:11:04 <JohnTHaller> ah ok. yeah, that was part of the gradients and the beveling. When the bevelling is removed, the gradients there look a bit out of place.
20:11:46 <JohnTHaller> Here's the dark version btw: http://portableapps.com/temp/PAThemeTest6.png
20:12:01 <benedikt93> the colors show to advantage (?) better in the new one IMO
20:12:37 <JohnTHaller> Yeah. There's less 'in the way' of any backgrounds or colors you select.
20:12:39 <gluxon> Ah, that (Test6) looks awesome :D
20:12:52 <JohnTHaller> compare it to the equivalent of the old: http://portableapps.com/files/forumimages/platform2b5/ThemeRainbow.png
20:13:14 <JohnTHaller> That's using the exact same background image, too. The colors definitely pop more.
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20:57:49 <JohnTHaller> Ok, designer did some more tweaking and added a bit more of the dimensionality back to it. So a base color (solid color background, no 'glow') would look like this: http://portableapps.com/temp/PAThemeTest7.png
20:59:29 <OliverK> bottom is to dark
20:59:54 <OliverK> the button\lettering don't "pop" enough
20:59:57 <JohnTHaller> The words at the bottom?
21:00:02 <JohnTHaller> Oh yeah, I didn't update those, yet
21:00:02 * benedikt93 liked the previous "new" version more, somehow
21:01:51 <JohnTHaller> Here it is with the 'glow' effect and the space font lightened a bit: http://portableapps.com/temp/PAThemeTest8.png
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21:28:50 * Alley^Away thinks the rainbow one's pretty cool
21:31:27 <JohnTHaller> Here it is refined a bit with the new chrome: http://portableapps.com/temp/PAThemeTest9.png
21:56:54 <OliverK> pops a little better
21:57:13 <OliverK> i'm not sure if I like the purple at the bottom though, though might get used to it :)
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21:57:47 <JohnTHaller> Like the chrome overlay, though? (same as in Test8)
22:01:18 <OliverK> the star burst thingy
22:02:01 <OliverK> ?
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22:46:54 <kAlug> JohnTHaller: what are we supposed to do about http://portableapps.com/node/27631#comment-175349 ?
22:48:08 <JohnTHaller> Ignore it. It's unusded atm
22:48:23 <kAlug> ok
22:48:55 <JohnTHaller> Actually, have people fix it if they want. But no worries if they can't. We'll fix em when it's displayed (probably 2.1)
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