IRC Log from 2011-05-16

00:11:29 <agdurrette> .seen JohnHaller
00:11:29 <GizmoBot> Sorry, I haven't seen johnhaller around.
00:11:35 <agdurrette> .seen JohntHaller
00:11:35 <GizmoBot> agdurrette: I last saw johnthaller at 2011-05-12 04:33:53 UTC on #portableapps
00:11:53 <agdurrette> :/
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00:57:46 <kAlug> .t
00:57:46 <GizmoBot> Mon, 16 May 2011 00:57:46 GMT
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01:09:49 <GizmoBot> D_D is agdurrette, most likely he is on minecraft.
01:26:37 <DannyMuniz> well guys im off, my allergys are acting up way to much, so good night
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06:18:38 <Bivor> hey
06:19:01 <agdurrette> hi
06:19:39 <Bivor> how is it going?
06:20:53 <agdurrette> soon much better :D Im off to bed after a long day
06:21:00 <Bivor> good night
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12:51:17 <BivorBikel> help!
12:51:18 <GizmoBot> BivorBikel: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
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12:53:48 <marlop> Bivor, how can i help you
12:54:26 <Bivor> sorry, i don't need any help right now. it was my mistake
12:54:35 <Bivor> thanks for your concern
12:56:25 <Bivor> well. maximum times when i open pchat portable the first time it never opens.
12:56:40 <Bivor> i always need to open it the second time for it to work
12:56:43 <Bivor> why is that?
12:57:03 <Bivor> after starting the pc though
12:57:30 <Bivor> after starting to pc i need to open it twice for it to work
12:57:32 <Bivor> marlop
12:58:46 <marlop> i can't understand why that hapens neither
12:59:56 <marlop> maybe ZachThibeau (he is pchat's dev) knows,
13:00:23 <marlop> hey ZachThibeau can you take a look at it ^^
13:05:18 <Bivor> it doesn't happen in pchat though
13:05:23 <Bivor> only in pchat portable
13:05:50 <marlop> he develops both
13:06:11 <ChrisMorgan> Bivor: are you quitting it properly?
13:06:21 <Bivor> ya
13:06:32 <Bivor> quitting properly?
13:06:44 <Bivor> doesn't it mean clickingthe cross logo?
13:06:58 <ChrisMorgan> As in exiting the app properly and ejecting the USB disk properly.
13:07:10 <Bivor> yes
13:07:20 <ChrisMorgan> Can't remember if closing the window quits or just goes to tray by default...
13:07:21 <Bivor> it happens even if it is in my pc hard drive
13:07:36 <Bivor> closing the window quits
13:07:41 <ChrisMorgan> OK, then that shouldn't be the issue.
13:07:48 <Bivor> minimizing gets it to tray
13:08:13 <Bivor> i tried it in different pc
13:08:16 <Bivor> same issue
13:08:23 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Have you tried renaming the "Data" directory?
13:08:30 <TPFC-SYSTEM> It contains your settings.
13:08:50 <Bivor> rename it to what?
13:09:05 <Bivor> i have never renamed the data directory
13:09:06 <marlop> it maybe the issue if the laucher receive the shutdown signal before pchat itself
13:09:33 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Bivor: no matter. Anything else than "Data" keeps the wrapper from finding that directory.
13:09:51 <Bivor> no
13:10:06 <Bivor> the programme is in a different folder
13:10:12 <Bivor> only that and nothing else
13:13:29 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Do you mean that you have tried with default settings?
13:13:50 <Bivor> yep
13:15:00 <Bivor> even if it does run the first time with default settings. i need my settings, right?
13:15:11 <Bivor> can't do anything without that
13:16:04 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Hm. The cause doesn't seem to be the settings (you have tried with defaults) or the computer (you've tested on a different PC).
13:16:13 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I'm out of ideas. :(
13:18:12 <ChrisMorgan> Bivor: if you can hang around till ZachThibeau gets to you, you'll have a better chance of getting help. Or post in our forums (that's probably a better idea).
13:18:34 <Bivor> sure
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18:37:20 <george2> Hey. What's up with this? --> http://www.exploit-db.com/search/?action=search&filter_description=Coolplayer+Portable
18:38:16 <george2> Is that PA-portable, or just some Coolplayer "portable" thing that they do themselves?
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18:40:20 <george2> Is Coolplayer different than Coolplayer+ ?
18:41:46 <TPFC-SYSTEM> They seem to refer to the CoolPlayer+ Portable of PortableApps.com.
18:42:52 <TPFC-SYSTEM> However, exploits shouldn't be spesific to the portable version.
18:43:15 <TPFC-SYSTEM> PA.c doesn't recompile software, let alone introducing vulnerabilities.
18:44:00 <george2> It shouldnt. I wonder why they are listed specifically as "Coolplayer Portable"?
18:44:17 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Me too.
18:45:01 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Maybe the hackers simply use portable applications themselves... :/
18:45:42 <george2> From here, http://portableapps.com/apps/music_video/coolplayerp_portable it looks like maybe John changed Coolplayer a little more from the original, and made it "Coolplayer+ Portable". --> "CoolPlayer+ Portable is based on CoolPlayer."
18:45:56 <george2> I know that's unusual, but...
18:46:32 <george2> And at the bottom of the page, "Source Code: launcher source (included), CoolPlayer+ source"
18:49:25 <george2> The download link listed in the exploit is http://download.cnet.com/CoolPlayer-Portable/3000-2139_4-75448619.html, which is PA's Coolplayer+ Portable.
18:50:00 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Yes, I noticed that.
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18:51:48 <sar3th> CoolPlayerPlusPortable_2.19.2.paf.exe is affected
18:52:23 <sar3th> sha1: 9B72DF9FF416507472679503DC6214C4916AC932
18:52:41 <george2> Well, there's only one way to tell for sure if it's a bug in the original code, or in the PA version.
18:52:46 <ZachThibeau> I've been working on patching the code but it's better to start afresh, the code is a mess to work with
18:54:13 <george2> Well, if you;re working on it, do you know if it is PA-specific, or a bug in the original CP source?
18:54:22 <george2> *you're
19:01:21 <sar3th> it seems coolplayer 2.1.9 is affected too
19:03:43 <george2> Yep. Just tried it. I guess that's a good thing. I still wonder why it was listed as a cp portable sploit, though. Pretty wierd.
19:04:43 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Maybe the hacker only tested it with the portable version.
19:04:55 <sar3th> well, not so sure now actually
19:05:10 <TPFC-SYSTEM> That would tell us something about popularity of portable software... :)
19:05:21 <george2> Guess so.
19:05:24 <sar3th> calc.exe did not launch, i wonder if it's due to the fact that i use win7 or due to the fact that only the portableversion is affected
19:05:52 <george2> sar3th: I just tested the sploit with coolplayer non-portable, and it succeeded.
19:06:02 <george2> Look at your systray.
19:06:13 <sar3th> what about it?
19:07:09 <george2> Oh, duh. Didn't realise cp had a smiley for the tray icon. I guess all it did as crash Coolplayer.
19:07:15 <george2> *was
19:07:26 <sar3th> exactly, which makes the exploit useless
19:08:00 <george2> Still a dos, just not a usefull buffer overflow. Did you try Portable?
19:08:38 <sar3th> oryes, same
19:08:44 <sar3th> #Tested on: Windows Xp Sp3
19:08:51 <sar3th> i don't have that here right now
19:08:55 <george2> Hm.
19:08:55 <sar3th> only win7 x64
19:09:04 <george2> I'm on Vista
19:09:51 <TPFC-SYSTEM> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_space_layout_randomization
19:10:15 <sar3th> not only that TPFC-SYSTEM
19:10:21 <TPFC-SYSTEM> ASLR might keep the exploit from working on Vista/7.
19:14:03 <george2> Well, I feel better now I know it's not a PA-introduced bug. That's all I was really worried about. ZachThibeau: Are the Coolplayer folks not updating or something? Why do you have to fix it?
19:14:40 <ZachThibeau> it's not a pa introduced bug and I'm fixing it as I'm the current dev that's working on a coolplayer fork
19:15:03 <george2> Oh, ok.
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22:40:55 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
22:40:58 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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