IRC Log from 2011-05-20
00:02:50 <Gizmokid2005> *their* :P
00:03:51 <DannyMuniz> lol
00:04:39 <DannyMuniz> here is the link http://gizmodo.com/5803643/lock-down-your-computer-like-the-nsa
00:05:10 <DannyMuniz> My computer is lagging so much that i was not abble to copy and paste the link in time
00:06:14 <Gizmokid2005> I won't lock down my computer like the NSA, because then the NSA knows how to hack it! :P
00:06:32 <DannyMuniz> lol
00:06:34 <sar3th> just truecrypt and you're done :D
00:06:44 <Gizmokid2005> ^^ yep
00:07:30 <DannyMuniz> yea well that is not the only problem, if we was to lockdown are computers like the NSA then we could be hacked a lot more quicker by everyone! :P
00:07:54 <Gizmokid2005> *if we were* and *a lot more quickly*
00:08:02 <Gizmokid2005> :P
00:08:04 <DannyMuniz> lol
00:09:17 <DannyMuniz> hey don't blame me for my spelling blame my dislexia :-P
00:13:37 <DannyMuniz> man it is some what agrevating keeping track of PA.c Log from my PSP since I can't reply back :(
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02:11:02 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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06:23:12 <DannyMuniz[AWAY]> well guys im off to bed latter
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07:08:21 <MondoCain> Hello?
07:09:05 <MondoCain> Help!
07:10:10 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Hi MondoCain, how can we help you?
07:11:26 <MondoCain> Thanks. I'm wondering what the button is that's next to the close [x] button. It appears to close or hide Portable Apps, but ProcExplorer shows it still running.
07:15:23 <TPFC-SYSTEM> It's supposed to allow you to eject your drive.
07:17:02 <MondoCain> Hmmm... and yet the app is till runing. (I have this instance installed on my local drive) Thanks for clearing that up, TPFC. Would be nice if the code monkeys put a descriptive bubble on stuff.
07:23:33 <MondoCain> Thanks, again, TPFC. G'nite! :)
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15:36:21 <pa_9092> hello
15:37:21 <pa_9092> how do I secure my flash drive once the software is loaded on the drive?
15:38:41 <gluxon> What do you mean by "secure"?
15:39:10 <pa_9092> I thought this software was used to password protect the drive
15:40:26 <gluxon> Actually, no.
15:40:43 <gluxon> Perhaps you're thinking of the dead U3 project?
15:41:28 <pa_9092> not sure, but need a way of making certaiin client data is protected. Any ideas?
15:41:55 <gluxon> Do you need the entire flash drive encrypted, or just some files?
15:42:32 <pa_9092> I can do just certain files
15:44:12 <pa_9092> can you expain how to do it?
15:46:51 <gluxon> There's an app called Toucan that should allow you to do this.
15:47:20 <gluxon> http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/toucan
15:47:46 <gluxon> Encypting/Decrypting an entire flash drive requires admin privileges.
15:48:09 <gluxon> So the best bet is to just encypt the files needed, instead of the whole drive.
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16:49:59 <pa_6994> hi
16:50:09 <pa_6994> I need a app for NNTP
16:50:33 <pa_6994> Can you send me... what's app?
16:51:55 <pa_6994> Nobody?
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16:54:06 <pa_6994> ?
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17:20:33 <Chris_____> hello
17:20:48 <Chris_____> i have a question
17:22:27 <Chris_____> ???
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18:24:01 <pa_6994> wath's up?
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20:43:27 <pa_5733> I am running the PortableApps suite over my wireless network, but it transfers a very large amount of data on startup - what is it doing?
20:46:41 <Gizmokid2005> it's polling all your folders/apps for the appinfo.ini files for names, icons, etc.
20:46:46 <Gizmokid2005> to populate the menu wit.
20:46:49 <Gizmokid2005> *with
20:48:10 <pa_5733> I would think *essentially* a directory listing would go quite fast. Even when I refresh the apps it takes an awfully long time.
20:48:43 <Gizmokid2005> it's not just getting what equates to a "dir" or "ls"
20:49:03 <Gizmokid2005> it's actually going into the folders (multiple levels) and reading/pulling the appicons, and appinfo files.
20:49:04 <pa_5733> Please explain...
20:49:18 <Gizmokid2005> the more apps you have
20:49:23 <Gizmokid2005> the more data that is transferred
20:49:31 <Gizmokid2005> and refreshing the list does the same thing
20:50:00 <pa_5733> Understood. Wanted to emphasize it wasn't just the load time...
20:50:33 <Gizmokid2005> you asked about the data being transferred, that's what it is.
20:50:35 <Gizmokid2005> what else is the issue?
20:51:38 <pa_5733> Does it have to transfer an exe in order to get the appicon?
20:51:53 <Gizmokid2005> no
20:52:03 <Gizmokid2005> but if you have anything set to auto-run when the menu starts it will
20:54:00 <pa_5733> So refreshing the icons takes over 30s with 802.11g wifi (about 500kbps)
20:54:03 <pa_5733> Expected?
20:54:22 <Gizmokid2005> how many applications do you have installed with the menu?
20:55:38 <pa_5733> There are 52 folders in the PortableApps directory.
20:56:41 <Gizmokid2005> \PortableApps\PortableApps.com\Data\PortableAppsMenu.ini <-- in that file, do you have [AppsAutoStart] with anything underneath it?
20:58:07 <pa_5733> Let me check. (30s is just Refresh App Icons)
20:58:50 <pa_5733> BTW, the PortableApps folder is 406MB per Windows Explorer.
20:59:52 <Gizmokid2005> if you copy the folder to your local machine and launch the suite does it still take a while?
20:59:56 <pa_5733> No. I have [DisplayOptions] and [AppsHidden]
21:00:08 <Gizmokid2005> k, so it's definitely just the normal polling
21:02:01 <pa_5733> Guess I wasn't expecting it to transfer that much data. Doesn't make it feasible to run over wifi.
21:02:11 <pa_5733> But if that's how it works...
21:02:20 <Gizmokid2005> well if you're expecting to run full apps off the wifi...what are you really expecting?
21:02:29 <Gizmokid2005> most apps aren't optimized to be i/o light
21:02:54 <pa_5733> lol. I don't mind waiting for apps to launch, but just to refresh the icons shouldn't take that long.
21:03:22 <pa_5733> I just talking about the Platform, not running anything via the menu.
21:03:23 <Gizmokid2005> like I said, try it on the local machine and see if it still takes a while, or even try to wireshark or similar and see what exactly is being transferred
21:03:44 <Gizmokid2005> You can use processmonitor too
21:04:34 <pa_5733> Processmonitor - Is that a sysinternal tool?
21:04:42 <Gizmokid2005> yep
21:05:11 <pa_5733> K. Well, thanks for the input. Really appreciate you trying to help.
21:05:18 <Gizmokid2005> no problem
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21:11:53 <GizmoBot> ptmb knows a lot about HTML+CSS, besides that, he is just a lunatic...
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22:27:37 <GizmoBot> ptmb knows a lot about HTML+CSS, besides that, he is just a lunatic...
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