IRC Log from 2011-05-30

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00:54:07 <kAlug> can I make a quick off-topic poll here?
00:54:30 <kAlug> what GUI editor do you use? Windows/Linux
00:58:15 <gluxon> kAlug: -ot
00:58:33 <gluxon> And Windows/Linux isn't a GUI editor.
00:58:44 <gluxon> One is an Operating System and the other is a kernel.
00:59:34 <kAlug> gluxon: I know that. I mean for both OSes
00:59:41 <gluxon> Oh, sorry.
01:03:56 <ChrisMorgan> kAlug: I use PySide/PyQt4 and use Qt Designer for designing the GUIs. PADT is done that way.
01:11:42 <gluxon> ChrisMorgan: Does PyQt require Python installed on the user's machine?
01:12:02 <ChrisMorgan> gluxon: for development, naturally. For deployment, it can all be bundled up.
01:12:15 <ChrisMorgan> PyQt4 and PySide are just libraries for Python.
01:12:30 <gluxon> So yes, but not like .NET?
01:12:54 <kAlug> ChrisMorgan: I mean text editors.
01:13:28 <kAlug> gluxon: nope. You can bundle it in a dozen files.
01:13:45 <ChrisMorgan> kAlug: ah. I use Vim exclusively, gVim (GUI version rather than console version) most of the time.
01:14:17 <ChrisMorgan> gluxon: what precisely are you defining as similarity or dissimilarity? What are your metrics?
01:15:14 <gluxon> Well, I've never bothered programming in Python due to the dependency.
01:16:31 <ChrisMorgan> gluxon: could you please explain further?
01:17:01 <ChrisMorgan> What is your concern - development or deployment?
01:17:08 <gluxon> Deployment.
01:18:01 <ChrisMorgan> It isn't an external dependency at all. You ship a bundled executable.
01:18:44 <gluxon> Ah, that's the answer I was looking for.
01:21:19 <ChrisMorgan> As demonstrated with PADT, BPBible, Task Coach, and not a few other of our apps.
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03:25:11 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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03:35:10 <pa_1697> hello, when i am trying to check for updates i get an error "unable to connect to portableapps.... "
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03:37:01 <pa_1697> Gizmokid2005: hello
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03:42:07 <ChrisMorgan> pa_1697: are you behind a proxy?
03:42:57 <pa_1697> no
03:43:15 <pa_1697> i do this on a regular basis
03:43:22 <pa_1697> never had a problem
03:46:51 <ChrisMorgan> What's the full message?
03:48:48 <pa_1697> "unable to connect to portableapps.com to retrieve portableapps. please try again later [send request error]"
03:49:43 <pa_1697> cannot update any apps individually either
03:58:10 <ChrisMorgan> Are you behind a firewall?
03:58:49 <pa_1697> although i can launch every apps, i think something hass happened to the PA.
03:59:07 <pa_1697> Norton
03:59:23 <pa_1697> but i don't see the icon loaded just now
03:59:30 <pa_1697> i'm on win7
03:59:38 <ChrisMorgan> Home or work?
04:00:04 <ChrisMorgan> That error tends to mean that it's blocked somewhere, I believe.
04:00:36 <pa_1697> home
04:00:58 <pa_1697> been doing this everyday
04:01:09 <pa_1697> haven't changed anything
04:02:52 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm. I'm not sure what the issue would be, then.
04:03:06 <ChrisMorgan> You're in America, I believe?
04:03:17 <pa_1697> yes
04:04:06 <pa_1697> i do the "check for updates" regularly then i update the virus and spybot manually
04:04:28 <pa_1697> but i cannot even update anything manually
04:04:59 <pa_1697> i'm going to reboot and return.. will you be arround?
04:06:00 <ChrisMorgan> I expect to be.
04:06:05 <ChrisMorgan> First of all, though, try accessing http://update.portableapps.com/platform/applications.ini
04:06:50 <pa_1697> yes i can reach that by clicking the link
04:09:06 <ChrisMorgan> That's not the URL that the Updater looks for any more, but I think it should be on the same server, so it should have failed then if it were going to. I think then that firewall blocking it is most likely.
04:09:53 <kAlug> http://portableapps.com/updater/update.ini
04:11:03 <ChrisMorgan> kAlug: thanks
04:11:45 <ChrisMorgan> pa_1697: I think that it's most likely that the firewall is blocking the process from accessing the Internet. Should be able to configure it somewhere, somehow. You may be best to post on the forums.
04:12:43 <pa_1697> hmm.. wondering what changed .. i do this regularly
04:21:25 <kAlug> ChrisMorgan: is there any way to download/search the IRC logs, besides a massive wget? I'm doing this right now.
04:22:15 <ChrisMorgan> kAlug: not now.
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10:38:31 <pa_2745> Morning
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10:39:49 <carbonize> Well guess no one is here right now but when you do get back can you have a look at http://portableapps.com/node/13421 which now has a password on the zip file
10:40:05 <carbonize> I mean the password is in the filename but right at the end and nomention of it anywhere.
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12:44:42 <pa_3451> salve
12:44:53 <pa_3451> qualcuno รจ italiano?
12:45:41 <pa_3451> hello
12:46:40 <pa_3451> ho bisogno di aiutooo
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12:48:55 <pa_3451> qualcuno mi aiuta?
12:49:12 <pa_3451> WHOIS
12:52:12 <pa_3451> hello can someone help me?
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19:31:53 <DannyMuniz> man it looks like is going to be a boing day for me
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21:48:46 <GizmoBot> ptmb knows a lot about HTML+CSS, besides that, he is just a lunatic...
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