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00:16:20 <kAlug> ChrisMorgan: did you had time to review the docs for SaveLanguage? I want to make sure I didn't forgot anything before commiting and exporting it.
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00:21:56 <ChrisMorgan> kAlug: in [Language]:SaveLanguage, I think it should be "equivalent to the following code (for an appropriate value of AppNamePortable):"; a line break in between the two INI sections is good style, too.
00:22:38 <ChrisMorgan> And in the release notes it should be "using A or B", not "using A and B"
00:23:16 <ChrisMorgan> I didn't say that well. Let me rephrase it.
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00:29:40 <ChrisMorgan> I think I'd like to expand it somewhat, I'll write something further out.
00:30:11 <ChrisMorgan> kAlug: wasn't there another option added to [LanguageFile] to specify what value to write?
00:30:46 <kAlug> Well, I'm pretty sure that SaveAs needs a rewrite. Looking into SaveLanguage now.
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00:31:07 <kAlug> SaveAs
00:31:25 <ChrisMorgan> Oh yeah, that was it. I was thinking true/false.
00:32:53 <kAlug> The use for each option is respectively mentioned: SaveAs when using [LanguageFile] and SaveLanguage when working with environment variables (e.g. LANG).
00:33:37 <ChrisMorgan> SaveAs documentation could do with a little more information mentioning how TrimLeft and TrimRight won't be taken into account, nor will quotes be added, so registry files will need SaveAs='"%PAL:LanguageCustom%"', other things may need the TrimLeft and TrimRight values inserted before and after the %PAL:LanguageCustom% in the value, et cetera.
00:34:31 <ChrisMorgan> And SaveLanguage should specify that it is mutually exclusive with [LanguageFile] and designed for use in cases where an environment variable (such as LANG) stores the language.
00:38:41 <kAlug> Trim*: do you mean SaveLanguage, right? Actually they are processed, but it's an "implementation detail" and can be "added and removed at the whim of the developers". SaveAs's %PAL:LanguageCustom% is the same as currently. I'll rewrite them anyway.
00:42:48 <ChrisMorgan> Trim* only apply to [LanguageFile] and thus [LanguageFile]:SaveAs, right?
00:47:57 <kAlug> Theoretically, yes, but in practice, SaveLanguage is implemented as a kind of [LanguageFile]. But users should not rely on it. [LanguageFile] is not even supposed to be present in this case.
00:49:25 <ChrisMorgan> Yep, they are mutually exclusive.
00:50:38 <kAlug> SaveAs follow the rules of [FileWriteN], so I think I can mention this instead of the quotes.
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00:55:50 <ChrisMorgan> Give a link to [FileWriteN]:Value, but I think it's also worth mentioning the examples that I listed for registry files, and about how TrimLeft and TrimRight need to be considered.
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01:07:02 <kAlug> Trim* done, but what examples? The only thing I could find is http://kyra.kalug.net:49201/ini.html#keys
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01:12:13 <kAlug> I've also added a small note at the end of http://kyra.kalug.net:49201/topics/languages.html#languages-custom
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02:41:43 <kAlug> ChrisMorgan: regarding the quotes in registry files, I believe it's better to update the [FileWriteN] documentation instead, as it applies to it too.
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04:58:48 <DannyMuniz> hey guys
04:59:32 <OliverK> heya
05:00:15 <DannyMuniz> im sure you guys saw the news of the tornato that went trought Massachussets my home town.... :"(
05:00:40 <OliverK> ouch
05:01:28 <DannyMuniz> yea that felt like a movie, i swera i was watchin Twiater in the big screen from my living room when it happend
05:01:45 <OliverK> lol
05:02:26 <DannyMuniz> and to think that i slept trought most of it
05:06:51 <OliverK> is there anything really better to do?
05:07:00 <DannyMuniz> lol
05:07:33 <OliverK> i mean, you could scream in terror, but that won't accomplish much
05:07:56 <DannyMuniz> well we had 4 death and so far 33 injerd
05:08:07 <OliverK> ouch
05:08:46 <DannyMuniz> yea we had people that took there kids out side to go and see the tornado cause they have never seen a tornato by sides the tv and movies
05:09:04 <OliverK> must have been pretty neat
05:10:10 <DannyMuniz> you can find more about it here www.wwlp.com
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07:11:03 <Bensawsome> DannyMuniz you live in springfield?
07:11:12 <DannyMuniz> yes i do
07:11:24 <Bensawsome> dude that sucks :(
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07:11:48 <Bensawsome> me and my parents go through there all the time. its a nice area. we had one touch down in groton CT
07:11:54 <DannyMuniz> and i live in Downtown be hind mass mutual center
07:12:10 <Bensawsome> wasnt that one of the shelters?
07:12:17 <DannyMuniz> yeap
07:12:27 <Bensawsome> i was listening to the police radio and heard them say something about it
07:12:52 <DannyMuniz> yea people that lost there homes are in there
07:13:02 <Bensawsome> ya :(
07:13:07 <Bensawsome> how strong was it?
07:13:42 <Bensawsome> i heard that a lot of people were trapped in basements through the police radio.
07:13:49 <DannyMuniz> im guesing it was an ef2 and no more but it might be an ef3
07:14:25 <DannyMuniz> yea i stayed home and i maid sure to stay in contact with my family
07:14:35 <Bensawsome> if i remember correctly from junior high tornados that destroy houses are considered to be atelast f2
07:14:39 <Bensawsome> ya thats good.
07:15:33 <DannyMuniz> man my brother is lucky, the townhouse that he was suppost to move to next week or so was demolished
07:15:42 <Bensawsome> oh shit D:
07:15:45 <DannyMuniz> thank God they did not move
07:16:13 <Bensawsome> ya definetly
07:16:54 <DannyMuniz> at the moment they dont have pawoer but they are ok and the kids are good
07:17:20 <Bensawsome> ya. really dont need power during the summer
07:17:38 <Bensawsome> may get a bit hot but thats generally barable
07:17:49 <Bensawsome> how hot is it up there?
07:17:55 <Bensawsome> wait how are you on the internet?
07:18:22 <DannyMuniz> lol well i have power but my brother dose not
07:19:06 <DannyMuniz> things are calme and slow going but at list we only had 4 death and 33 injerys
07:19:10 <Bensawsome> ah
07:19:21 <Bensawsome> ya thats good
07:19:21 <DannyMuniz> it could have been worset
07:19:28 <Bensawsome> definetly
07:19:37 <Bensawsome> was it closer to the city area?
07:19:54 <Bensawsome> err
07:19:55 <DannyMuniz> it was in my front window
07:19:59 <Bensawsome> O_O
07:20:01 <Bensawsome> shit
07:20:08 <Bensawsome> which side of the river you live on?
07:21:20 <DannyMuniz> i was sleeping when it hit and my brother called and i woke up and heard it on the radio i ran to the window to see how far it was and all i see is tree branch flying
07:21:32 <Bensawsome> shit
07:21:49 <DannyMuniz> im behind mass mutual center
07:22:06 <DannyMuniz> i sware it was like watcin a movie
07:22:13 <Bensawsome> ya
07:22:29 <Bensawsome> shit i need to get to bed
07:22:34 <DannyMuniz> ok man
07:22:35 <Bensawsome> glad you and your family are ok man
07:22:41 <DannyMuniz> thanks
07:22:46 <Bensawsome> nite :)
07:22:57 <DannyMuniz> nite
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08:25:18 <DannyMuniz> well guys im off to bed now
08:25:23 <DannyMuniz> latter all
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12:59:42 <pa_6304> good morning
13:00:06 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Hi pa_6304
13:00:30 <pa_6304> I have a question about portable apps
13:01:06 <pa_6304> It's better install on a fat32 on ntfs formatted usb flahdrive?
13:01:52 <TPFC-SYSTEM> No matter. I don't know ANY portable application that needs a specific filesystem.
13:02:32 <pa_6304> ok many thanks! thank you for your great work!
13:02:58 <pa_6304> I will support you with a donation because I like very muck you work ;)
13:03:26 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Thanks (even though I'm just a user like you)! :)
13:03:54 <pa_6304> thank you anyway for your support
13:04:15 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Sure thing.
13:04:34 <pa_6304> I'm using a corsair Voyager 32 GT that died 10 minutes ago formatted in ntfs...
13:05:14 <pa_6304> I think that the problem is only because the pendrive was faulty
13:05:41 <pa_6304> anyway thank you and greetings from Italy ;)
13:05:57 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I think so too. Usually thumb drives last for years even with heavy use.
13:07:26 <pa_6304> thanks again, I think that I will try to support the project translating in italian.
13:07:43 <TPFC-SYSTEM> That's nice. :)
13:09:30 <pa_6304> you are a nice comunity.. I like your work and I would like to help you in any way... I will start right now with a donation
13:09:39 <pa_6304> thanks again and have a nice day ;)
13:10:06 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Thanks, you too!
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13:45:59 <kAlug> ChrisMorgan: I've finished the save_language docs (http://kyra.kalug.net:8000/rev/2982909115d1) and put a small notice on [FileWriteN]:{Key,Value} regarding .reg files (http://kyra.kalug.net:49201/ref/launcher.ini/filewriten.html#key).
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17:29:05 <GizmoBot> ptmb knows a lot about HTML+CSS, besides that, he is just a lunatic...
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19:19:56 <DannyMuniz> hey everyone!
19:20:19 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Hi DannyMuniz
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19:34:10 <rcmaehl_mobile> TPFC-SYSTEM: http://www.portablefreeware.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=9736
19:34:21 <rcmaehl_mobile> agdurrette: ^
19:36:24 <TPFC-SYSTEM> rcmaehl: I don't use KidSafe myself, so please don't notify me about unstable releases. :)
19:37:14 <rcmaehl_mobile> I wouldn't call it unstable
19:37:46 <rcmaehl_mobile> it is stable but doesn't have all features added
19:38:22 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Do you want me to update the TPFC entry?
19:39:15 <rcmaehl_mobile> TPFC-SYSTEM: Not yet. I have to add the math unlock system first.
19:39:53 <rcmaehl_mobile> currently coding it now
19:40:13 <TPFC-SYSTEM> OK
19:45:18 <rcmaehl_mobile> TPFC-SYSTEM: the math unlock system should be done in about 3 hours >< adaptiveness is very hard to code
19:45:56 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I'll go to bed before that. :(
19:46:13 <rcmaehl_mobile> oh
19:51:11 <rcmaehl_mobile> "Now these points of data make a beautiful line. And we're out of beta. We're releasing on time." :D Actually we're releasing ahead of time
19:52:12 <TPFC-SYSTEM> :)
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22:56:03 <DannyMuniz> man i need to keep my mind ocupide with somthing other than this tornado stuff
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