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01:58:46 <pa_2615> help!
01:58:47 <GizmoBot> pa_2615: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
02:00:19 <pa_2615> ok i have a problem where i cannot use the portable apps launcher at work
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02:06:12 <pa_2615> the admins removed the tray so i cannot see the portableapps.com icon
02:06:42 <pa_2615> anyone have any idea to get around this?
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02:10:37 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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02:16:34 <DannyMuniz> hey JohnTHaller! :")
02:16:38 <JohnTHaller> Hola
02:24:31 <kAlug> Hi JohnTHaller! It's been a while since the last time we saw you.
02:25:03 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, busy couple weeks
02:26:58 <DannyMuniz> oh yeah Boston wins 4-2
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02:59:53 <DannyMuniz> well good night guys im off
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05:17:26 <DannyMuniz> hey im having troble making WinHTTrack Portable save the regitry settings from windows system to the settings folder. What should i do?
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10:24:32 <ela_> huhu
10:25:04 <ela_> wie kann ich portable apps machen ?????
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10:26:53 <pa_2852> Hi
10:27:33 <pa_2852> help!
10:27:33 <GizmoBot> pa_2852: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
10:27:49 <ela_> huhu
10:28:04 <pa_2852> Hi!
10:28:05 <ela_> bekommt mann auch eine antwort hier ????
10:28:21 <pa_2852> English?
10:28:29 <ela_> ne deutsch
10:28:37 <pa_2852> oh
10:28:51 <ela_> kannst du deutsch
10:28:53 <ela_> ????
10:29:03 <pa_2852> sorry no deutsch
10:29:13 <ela_> oh nicht gut
10:29:27 <ela_> wollte wissen wie ich portable apps machen kann
10:29:42 <pa_2852> When I download any app, do I save it to my desktop or usb drive?
10:30:41 <ela_> ne wie ich die selber machen kann
10:32:02 <pa_2852> nevermind! I found there are installation guides...
10:32:04 <pa_2852> thanks you!
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10:32:20 <ela_> how I can make them same this I wanted to know with pleasure
10:33:54 <ela_> noch da
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11:47:13 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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19:29:00 <Simeon> hi all hi John!
19:29:21 <JohnTHaller> Hola
19:29:28 <JohnTHaller> Did you send ATanks? I didn't get it.
19:31:01 <Simeon> yes.
19:46:49 <Simeon> Does anyone know of an app that ajusts its settings if run fullscreen?
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19:47:13 <Simeon> because the size of the screen can change between PCs.
19:49:48 <JohnTHaller> Most apps just have a fullscreen tickbox and then calculate and fill it on the fly.
19:50:12 <JohnTHaller> Or they have a setting (1024x768, etc) and stick with it regardless of actual screen size.
19:51:17 <Simeon> I just had a bugreport that the supertuxkart prerelease has this problem. Havent reproduced it myself though.
19:57:33 <Simeon> Argh! I hate it when the dishwasher just rinses everything with cold water instead of doing what it should.
19:57:43 <Simeon> sorry for this off-topic rant.
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20:36:08 <JohnTHaller> Simeon: Were you gonna do jpegview or should I?
20:37:45 <Simeon> working on it right now
20:37:55 <Simeon> Ill send it to you later ok?
20:38:18 <JohnTHaller> Cool. Take your time.
20:38:20 <Simeon> added some DirectoryMoveOK=true etc
20:39:31 <Simeon> Would be ready by now if my virtualbox would do as it should.
20:40:11 <JohnTHaller> never does when you need it ot
20:40:12 <JohnTHaller> to
20:40:32 <Simeon> Do you know that AppCompactor doesnt like network drives?
20:40:42 <Simeon> even when mapped to M:/
20:40:58 <Simeon> it just keeps scanning more folders than it should.
20:41:01 <JohnTHaller> It works fine when properly mapped. But the network drive in virtualbox is wonky
20:41:46 <Simeon> ok.
20:41:54 <Simeon> then its a virtualbox thing.
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20:42:36 <JohnTHaller> It works fine on mine. It appears to be a Windows client on a Linux host issue.
20:43:38 <Simeon> how do you know Im on linux? ;)
20:44:40 <JohnTHaller> Cuz the bug only affects you and Chris :-P
20:49:08 <Simeon> haha
21:00:07 <kAlug> JohnTHaller: Will the next release of the Installer come with NSIS bundled (personally, I think it shouldn't)?
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21:06:43 <JohnTHaller> It absolutely will... and always will.
21:07:44 <JohnTHaller> We use a custom package of it with specific plugins added and then extra stuff pulled out. Later releases of the Launcher will also have NSIS pre-bundled. That way, a specific issue can be traced to a specific build of the installer and NSIS rather than NSIS being a variable.
21:12:26 <Simeon> Should the publisher be "Publisher=David Kleiner & PortableApps.com" or "Publisher=David Kleiner & PortableApps.com (Simeon)" or doesnt it matter?
21:13:03 <JohnTHaller> I stopped putting names in the Publisher field a while ago. Devs are gonna be listed as 'maintainer' on the app pages.
21:14:31 <Simeon> but if my ego needs it thers no downside? ;)
21:15:12 <JohnTHaller> You can keep it for now. We haven't had any policy one way or anotehr on it. I just took my name off all mine
21:15:42 <Simeon> ok.
21:17:47 <JohnTHaller> maybe maintainer isn't the right word. we'll come up with something. Or maybe just keep it as is with the name and link in parenthesis after PortableApps.com
21:18:43 <Simeon> imho maintainer is right. What could be better?
21:19:23 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, but some of them are actually writing code... and maintainer doesn't seem to encompass that
21:20:01 <Simeon> portable developer or is that too long?
21:21:52 <JohnTHaller> yeah. maybe as is is fine.
21:22:42 <JohnTHaller> Man I need to get my net fixed. I had to throttle my uploads back to 256Kbps to avoid it shutting down on me.
21:23:02 <Simeon> outch
21:23:38 <Simeon> and Gnumeric is ~20 mb...
21:26:33 <JohnTHaller> Try a dozen packages of TB and FF
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21:36:25 <GizmoBot> ptmb knows a lot about HTML+CSS, besides that, he is just a lunatic...
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21:38:22 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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21:53:31 <Simeon> hi Zach
21:54:13 <ZachThibeau> hi Simeon
21:54:18 <ZachThibeau> and all
21:58:47 <Simeon> anyone playing chess here?
21:59:31 <Simeon> Cause I have found a bug in Winboard...leaves winboard.ini inside %APPDATA%
21:59:55 <ZachThibeau> nope, but I maybe playing with jsmad soon
22:00:12 <ZachThibeau> javascript port of libmad :D
22:00:39 <Simeon> whats libmad
22:00:42 <Simeon> ?
22:00:53 <ZachThibeau> mp3 decoder
22:01:09 <Simeon> ok
22:01:19 <ZachThibeau> CoolPlayer makes use of libmad for mp3 playback
22:02:23 <ZachThibeau> basically I want to try and make a simpler more light weight mp3 player using jsmad and some html/css and possibly webkit
22:02:33 <Simeon> nice
22:03:03 <Simeon> but what does "more light weight" buy me if I need a 20 mb browser instead? ;)
22:03:22 <ZachThibeau> won't be 20 meg :P
22:03:28 <ZachThibeau> smaller
22:06:35 <Simeon> before anyone reminds me: I posted a bug report in the forums.
22:34:29 <Simeon> gnight all
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23:54:28 <ChrisMorgan> JohnTHaller: did you get my email for the purpose of confirming our Java Portable strategy?
23:55:04 <JohnTHaller> Hi ChrisMorgan. Sorry I didn't get a chance to respond.
23:55:36 <JohnTHaller> I'm not sure yet. I may keep CommonFiles so we don't have to go back and fix apps. I was working on the updater to see how much work it is to get CommonFiles recognized.
23:56:14 <ChrisMorgan> How many apps do we currently have which use CommonFiles? Java apps only, and of the officially released ones, only OO.o/LO, I think?
23:56:52 <JohnTHaller> Correct. I was holding off on Java apps until the updater/platform understood it.
23:57:34 <ChrisMorgan> Seems to me that it's not going to be a stumbling block at all if we change it in the immediate future.
23:57:52 <JohnTHaller> Except for OO.o. Which I don't know if we can legally even update.