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01:33:24 <JAWS> help!
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01:35:31 <JAWS> help!
01:35:43 <sar3th> hi JAWS, what's the issue?
01:35:46 <Gizmokid2005> JAWS: just ask
01:37:28 <JAWS> ok i was recently using XnviewPortable and realized the free space on my flash drive had gone down, i went through my PA to see what i could get rid of a saw that Xnview has grown to 2.14 GB. Whats up?
01:37:40 <Gizmokid2005> Did you look?
01:38:28 <JAWS> yes. the Data folder has repeated folders of the same stuff (192 folders)
01:39:55 <Gizmokid2005> are they in the root of the data folder?
01:39:57 <Gizmokid2005> or what?
01:39:58 <JAWS> its 192 folders of a catagory.bak,catagory.db,Xnview.db,and 2 of my pictures
01:40:00 <JAWS> yes
01:40:20 <JAWS> wait, what do u mean?
01:40:25 <Gizmokid2005> I would say reinstall the app, and delete your data folder, or back it up, and see if that fixes it
01:40:29 <Gizmokid2005> if not, post in the forums
01:40:33 <Gizmokid2005> I mean
01:40:48 <Gizmokid2005> are the Data\Files, Data\Folders, Data\Registry folders duplicating?
01:40:52 <Gizmokid2005> or subfolders of those?
01:41:22 <JAWS> just the Data\Folders is duplicated 192 times
01:41:39 <Gizmokid2005> with different names I assume?
01:42:05 <JAWS> heres the structure \PortableApps\XnViewPortable\Data\Folders\File1.dat ----- then it just repeats
01:42:26 <JAWS> with these files---catagory.bak,catagory.db,Xnview.db,and 2 of my pictures
01:42:51 <Gizmokid2005> ok so is it the "PortableApps\XnViewPortable\Data\Folders" Folder that is duplicated?
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01:43:36 <JAWS> K:\PortableApps\XnViewPortable\Data\Folders\File1.dat\XnView\File1.dat\XnView\File1.dat\XnView\XnView\XnView\XnView\XnView\XnView\XnView\XnView\XnView\XnView\XnView\XnView\XnView\XnView\XnView\XnView
01:43:46 <JAWS> thats what it looks like
01:43:57 <Gizmokid2005> ahh, I'd delete your data folder
01:44:07 <JAWS> so , what happened
01:44:10 <Gizmokid2005> reinstall XnViewPortable, making sure you grab the latest from our site
01:44:15 <Gizmokid2005> and see if the problem persists.
01:44:41 <JAWS> will i lose settings?
01:44:50 <Gizmokid2005> if you delete the data folder, yes
01:45:07 <Gizmokid2005> but if you know what files the settings are in, just delete everything in the data folder, but those.
01:45:26 <JAWS> what about reinstalling using the .paf package
01:45:34 <Gizmokid2005> that's what I mean
01:45:39 <Gizmokid2005> to reinstall it.
01:45:47 <Gizmokid2005> but that won't get rid of the duplicated folders
01:45:55 <Gizmokid2005> if you reinstall and still have that issue, like I said, post to the forums.
01:47:00 <JAWS> ok, could it be because i was applying catagories or because it crashed and i tryed reopening a couple of times before i killed the process?
01:47:20 <Gizmokid2005> the latter could very well be the cause
01:47:23 <Gizmokid2005> but it's hard to say.
01:47:41 <JAWS> catagories to the pictures?
01:48:33 <Gizmokid2005> no, the crash/reopening.
01:48:39 <Gizmokid2005> latter, not former.
01:48:55 <JAWS> sorry
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01:49:37 <JAWS> i dont know why it crashed though, i suddenly disappeared
01:49:46 <JAWS> it*
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01:52:52 <JAWS> so what do i keep in the File1.dat?
01:56:06 <JAWS> ok, i just installed a clean one and the folder structure is not at all close to what i had originally
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01:58:00 <JAWS> i did change a setting ---i turned off the Use Embedded Thumbnail... does that mean anything?
02:04:09 <JAWS> i did a file comparison everything within the duplicated folders are IDENTICAL
02:04:16 <JAWS> are you still there?
02:15:03 <JAWS> well thanks for your help! BYE! :)
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03:46:11 <DannyMuniz> hey i need help moving files from "C:\Users\UserName\folder"
03:47:31 <DannyMuniz> i dont know how to move the files cause this ist the first time i have had to move files other than from AppData
03:48:06 <kAlug> DannyMuniz: C:\Users\UserName = %UserProfile% IIRC
03:48:52 <DannyMuniz> ok and what dose the IIRC stand for?
03:54:17 <kAlug> IIRC = "If I remember correctly"
03:54:36 <DannyMuniz> lol okay thanks
03:55:11 <DannyMuniz> sorry after somany years using chat rooms you would have expected me to remember that
03:57:09 <kAlug> I've found this page a few days ago: http://cygwin.com/acronyms/
03:57:56 <DannyMuniz> you know i actualy have the link with some other similar to it
03:59:50 <DannyMuniz> kAlug: thanks that works like a charm! XD
04:00:08 <DannyMuniz> i just made this app portable http://www.pdfsam.org/
04:00:24 <DannyMuniz> here is a pic of it http://www.techsupportalert.com/files/images/PDFsam.jpg
04:23:18 <kAlug> DannyMuniz: Interesting. Are you going to release it?
04:33:57 <DannyMuniz> well it is opensource so i think i will, but i am going to contact the deveolper first
04:35:48 <kAlug> Did you have made the basic or enhanced version?
04:36:13 <DannyMuniz> i went on a hunting spree for PDF tools since there are very little free or opensource PDF programs, I found a lot but only a handfull of them seem useful
04:37:14 <DannyMuniz> i made the basic
04:39:54 <DannyMuniz> I found a FreePDFEditor and I contacted to the author of the program for permition and he said no in a panickey way so I will not bather with it
04:40:10 <DannyMuniz> it can be used without a launcher
04:40:25 <DannyMuniz> and it is portable alleready
04:41:11 <DannyMuniz> here it is http://www.freepdfeditor.net/
04:41:41 <DannyMuniz> it great program that with a little more work it can become even better than what it is
04:41:50 <kAlug> I was just going to ask you about it
04:42:12 <kAlug> Sometimes I wonder what people gain with closed-source freeware
04:42:35 <DannyMuniz> lol i just had to real you in more to get the atention JK
04:43:09 <kAlug> There's not even a donation button!
04:43:14 <DannyMuniz> i know but i guess he is using something that is not free in order to make it work IMOP
04:47:54 <DannyMuniz> you know it is funny how i know nothing of working with java apps and yet i have maid so many
05:04:45 <DannyMuniz> noe i found this other PDF tool that i realy have to send an e-mail to http://flavianopetrocchi.blogspot.com/2011/02/jpdfbookmarks-251.html
05:07:24 <DannyMuniz> and this is why i said that for someone that dose not know how to work with java apps sure has maid many
05:07:48 <DannyMuniz> and that is that this app also is made in java
06:05:49 <DannyMuniz> kAlug: I need a little help with the Launcher to write setting to xml file
06:05:54 <DannyMuniz> http://tinypaste.com/0d63a9
06:07:56 <kAlug> You can use Type=XML text
06:09:13 <DannyMuniz> and how about Entry=<config id="home_directory">?
06:11:27 <kAlug> Can you post a copy of that XML file?
06:11:36 <DannyMuniz> sure
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06:12:28 <DannyMuniz> here it is http://tinypaste.com/74a007
06:14:12 <matthias_> hello, please check link-text "Diffpdf Portable 1.2.1" after text "Submitted by .." on site "http://portableapps.com/news/2011-06-21_-_diffpdf_portable_1.2.2_released". The Link is for 1.2.2 release not for 1.2.1 ...
06:15:56 <kAlug> DannyMuniz: Using ConfigWrite will mess up the XML. I remember when I tried to use my new SaveAs with Iron Portable. Anyway, where is it supposed to write in?
06:17:26 <DannyMuniz> well that is where it save its settings to
06:17:38 <DannyMuniz> and it is in app dir
06:17:40 <kAlug> matthias_: I see. It's really 1.2.2.
06:18:17 <matthias_> kAlug: nearly not mentionable, link is working correctly.. :)
06:19:26 <kAlug> DannyMuniz: what are you trying to do?
06:19:51 <DannyMuniz> let me think for a sec
06:21:12 <DannyMuniz> you know what ill just leave that as is and will have it moved to settings when it closes
06:21:32 <matthias_> kAlug: should i address such information here or should i use the comment function on the site if i found something?
06:22:50 <kAlug> matthias_: comment. The site admins are not here most of the time.
06:23:27 <matthias_> kAlug: ok, thx
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06:23:56 <kAlug> DannyMuniz: are you trying to move the app's data directory?
06:24:15 <DannyMuniz> just the xml file that all
06:25:06 <DannyMuniz> im going to send a link after i upload it in a min
06:25:22 <DannyMuniz> that way you can take a better look at it
06:25:55 <kAlug> ok
06:30:17 <kAlug> ChrisMorgan is definitively right: "Writing this documentation for the PortableApps.com Launcher is taking far longer than the actual writing of the code did in the first place (orders of magnitude longer)."
06:30:51 <DannyMuniz> lol
06:30:58 <kAlug> 1 week and I stiil haven't finished the docs for ONE simple feature.
06:31:43 <DannyMuniz> i know what you mean i have made websites and they take long to make especialy when you are doing it for a project such as this
06:32:47 <DannyMuniz> uploading file now
06:38:18 <kAlug> DannyMuniz: can you check if this is understandable (ignore the formatting): https://pzt.me/88g3 ?
06:40:57 <DannyMuniz> ok in line 21 is that a typo "[FileWriteN]"
06:41:04 <DannyMuniz> i mean the N
06:42:38 <DannyMuniz> well it make sence to me
06:43:14 <kAlug> No. That's how it's referenced on the Launcher documentation.
06:43:26 <DannyMuniz> ok just making sure
06:44:32 <DannyMuniz> hey you know as well as i do that one # or symboll or Letter can set any coding off ^_^
06:52:15 <kAlug> DannyMuniz: it seems that there's no way to set the config directory.
06:52:49 <DannyMuniz> ok ill just leave as is and just move it when the program closes
06:53:40 <kAlug> Also, you'll need a default sampdf-config.xml. And you can enable language switching.
06:55:10 <DannyMuniz> yea will keep the original sampdf-config.xml and have it backedup by the launcher
07:09:58 <kAlug> DannyMuniz: this app is funny. It needs pdfsam-config.xml in %PAL:AppDir%\pdfsam but only uses the one at %UserProfile%\.pdfsam.
07:10:36 <DannyMuniz> i know it makes no sence i was about to tell you that
07:13:28 <DannyMuniz> you see when you open the program it tells you the enviroment, now dose that help when i move both
07:14:06 <DannyMuniz> now the question is do i move the xml file apdir or not
07:14:28 <DannyMuniz> from**
07:17:21 <kAlug> I'd do that, just to be on the safe side...
07:17:59 <DannyMuniz> leave the one in appdir as is with no move
07:21:21 <kAlug> Maybe it's used in an unforeseem circunstance
07:21:46 <DannyMuniz> i guess
07:22:08 <DannyMuniz> i think that the program creats the other one as a backup
07:23:17 <kAlug> %UserProfile% = main; %AppDir% = walternate
07:23:30 <kAlug> s/walternate/alternate/
07:25:18 <kAlug> DannyMuniz: any reason for the "-Xms32m -Xmx128m"?
07:26:18 <DannyMuniz> that is how the other java app that i maid is, someone ells told me to use it like that
07:30:05 <DannyMuniz> ok so you want me to replace [DirectoriesMove]
07:30:05 <DannyMuniz> .pdfsam=%UserProfile%\.pdfsam with [DirectoriesMove]
07:30:05 <DannyMuniz> .pdfsam=%UserProfile% = main; %AppDir%
07:30:39 <kAlug> DannyMuniz: from http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1043817/speed-tradeoff-of-javas-xms-and-xmx-options/1043889#1043889, I'd recommend you to remove -Xms32m
07:31:26 <kAlug> No, I was replying to "i think that the program creats the other one as a backup"
07:31:40 <DannyMuniz> oh ok
07:31:48 <kAlug> It's good now
07:33:22 <kAlug> Another thing: is RefreshShellIcons really necessary?
07:33:38 <DannyMuniz> nah ill remove that
07:35:48 <kAlug> One last thing (from PADT): "appinfo.ini: [License]:EULAVersion is defined but neither Other\Source\EULA.rtf nor Other\Source\EULA.txt exists"
07:36:16 <DannyMuniz> ahhh ill take care of that now
07:36:18 <DannyMuniz> thanks
07:37:10 <DannyMuniz> after this all ii have to do is edit the html help file
07:38:34 <kAlug> I've enabled language switching; do you want me to send it to you?
07:38:49 <DannyMuniz> sure that is of great help
07:39:10 <DannyMuniz> im not all that good with the language stuff
07:42:39 <DannyMuniz> i need me some coffee
07:43:15 <kAlug> Here are the INI files: https://pzt.me/3l2z
07:44:40 <kAlug> You'll also need pdfsam-config.xml both in App\DefaultData and App\DefaultData\.pdfsam: https://pzt.me/5miw
07:58:57 <kAlug> DannyMuniz: new links: https://pzt.me/1ddw and https://pzt.me/3rwx
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08:00:49 <DannyMuniz> .tell KAlug: Thanks for all you help in this project. It was much apritiated. ^_^ Thank you!
08:02:02 <DannyMuniz> GizmoBot in not on?
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08:58:21 <DannyMuniz> TPFC-SYSTEM: Gizmobot is out :"(
08:59:47 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I see.
09:00:03 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Why did you point out that to me? :-?
09:01:36 <DannyMuniz> Sorry IDK im have almost falling asleep on computer
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11:00:28 <flybyray> help! PortableApps.comLauncher: i want to make a launcher for netbeans. i would like to start a batch file, is that possible with the launcher? i found a nice editable batch here http://wiki.netbeans.org/FaqPortableWorkingEnvironments
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15:03:39 <JAWS> hello, are there more than one setting files for XnView than the xnview.ini in \XnViewPortable\Data\Folders\File1.dat\XnView?
15:07:08 <JAWS> help!
15:07:08 <GizmoBot> JAWS: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
15:07:30 <JAWS> are there more than one setting files for XnView than the xnview.ini in \XnViewPortable\Data\Folders\File1.dat\XnView?
15:14:03 <JAWS> i am very sorry, but i unexpectedly have to leave. Sorry if i wasted anyone's time
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15:56:42 <Nerd42> Hey can we make PortablePython portable?? http://portablepython.com/
16:00:06 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I found this with Google: http://portableapps.com/node/15756
16:02:13 <Nerd42> oh sweet
16:02:29 <Nerd42> search bubble phenomena is probably not letting me see that
16:02:50 <Nerd42> nowadays different people get different results on google based on personalized junk they do
16:04:30 <TPFC-SYSTEM> My search query was the following: http://www.google.com/search?&q=site:portableapps.com+python
16:04:51 <TPFC-SYSTEM> The "site:" feature of Google is very useful to me. :)
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16:08:31 <Nerd42> oh nice good idea
16:09:07 <Nerd42> code::blocks portable dev doesn't seem to recognize mingw portable dev
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16:54:20 <Spaceghost> Hello.
16:54:44 <Spaceghost> anyone know if there is a app similar to PDFshuffler for windows? I tried with your app
16:54:50 <Spaceghost> PDFtk or something like that
16:55:07 <Spaceghost> but what I need is the posibility of cut part of the PDFs
16:55:10 <Spaceghost> easily
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16:57:31 <Nerd42> oh wait that python distro linked to earlier doesn't have PyScripter
16:57:50 <Nerd42> it's not the same as portablepython.com, but is missing some of the IDE toole
16:57:54 <Nerd42> *tools
17:00:21 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Spaceghost: What about SepPDF? http://www.portablefreeware.com/index.php?id=1721
17:00:42 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Or PDFTK Builder Portable? http://portableapps.com/apps/office/pdftk_builder_portable
17:00:45 <Spaceghost> let me try and see
17:01:12 <Spaceghost> but those looks like "splitters"
17:01:19 <Spaceghost> I tried with PDFTK yesterday
17:01:51 <Spaceghost> and I couldn't, I need reduce a bit the margins of pdfs, the problem that I have is that I have scans from a notebook, I should print it
17:02:37 <Spaceghost> and those scans have written near to the right side and are bigger than a A4, in the other side (the left side) it has blank space
17:03:12 <Spaceghost> I can't print those without reduce to much the size of the letters, if I could cut a part of the lesf side
17:03:17 <Spaceghost> I could print those well
17:07:32 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Hm. Maybe you can convert the PDFs to pictures and reduce the margins after that.
17:07:56 <TPFC-SYSTEM> BtoPDF ( http://www.portablefreeware.com/?id=1723 ) can convert PDF to JPEG and BMP.
17:10:28 <Spaceghost> yes, and with which program I could reduce in the same way a lot of images?
17:11:01 <Spaceghost> a program with a GUI, do you have any ide?
17:11:03 <Spaceghost> idea*
17:13:53 <TPFC-SYSTEM> PhotoFiltre, the picture editor of my choice: http://www.portablefreeware.com/?id=12
17:14:05 <TPFC-SYSTEM> IIRC, there is a PortableApps.com version as well.
17:14:54 <TPFC-SYSTEM> There is a batch conversion tool in the Tools menu.
17:15:45 <Spaceghost> well, thanks a lot TPFC-SYSTEM, I will try
17:16:42 <Nerd42> i use a windows xp powerToy for that
17:17:33 <Nerd42> but unfortunately although it is smart enough to avoid stretching out of proportion, it is not smart enough to automatically rotate pictures to best fit within the dimensions specified
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23:54:16 <DannyMuniz> hey Kalug!
23:55:15 <DannyMuniz> kAlug: the language swith dose not work for some reason... :"(
23:56:42 <kAlug> Did you put the new files in DefaultData?
23:56:54 <DannyMuniz> yes i did
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