IRC Log from 2011-07-09
00:20:45 <kAlug> I'll be out for the next two days. JohnTHaller1: I'll post a dev test of ConvertAll Portable when I get back.
00:21:06 <kAlug> .tell ChrisMorgan is var~=path a change or a new feature, regarding the release notes? I'll be watching the logs.
00:21:07 <GizmoBot> kAlug: I'll pass that on when ChrisMorgan is around.
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01:39:08 <JohnTHaller> kAlug: Want me to just use your launcher.ini and push out ConvertAll or did you make any other changes?
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02:18:58 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
02:19:38 <ZachThibeau> howdy JohnTHaller and everyone else
02:19:43 <JohnTHaller> hola
02:19:49 <ZachThibeau> what's up?
02:20:39 <JohnTHaller> Just finished all the app updates
02:20:58 <ZachThibeau> cool
02:21:24 <ZachThibeau> I just got back from a 12 hour job, don't like it but hey it's money and I can't argue with a good paying job
02:21:32 <JohnTHaller> Wanted to get it done tonight and spend the weekend on 2.0, with the exception of Sat night when I'm seeing a buddy's band while my girlfriend has a girl's night here.
02:21:39 <JohnTHaller> True
02:24:08 <ZachThibeau> anyways hopeing to get PChat 2 beta 2 rolling sometime next week, just did a beta 1 not to long ago and things are starting to look awesome so far
02:30:01 <JohnTHaller> cool
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04:01:54 <JohnTHaller> hi ChrisMorgan
04:02:04 <JohnTHaller> Just heading to bed. How goes it?
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04:05:59 <JohnTHaller> Alright, more coding in the AM, gnight all.
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04:06:51 <ChrisMorgan> Hmm, just missed him.
04:07:57 <ChrisMorgan> kAlug: about ConvertAll, don't you DARE to take the whole Trolltech key. That's evil.
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05:30:17 <ChrisMorgan1> kAlug: about ~= in the release notes, I think I'd put [PersistentData] as a New Feature and give the trailing `~` in [Environment] a brief mention as a Change (in syntax)
05:31:24 * Mir stabs ChrisMorgan1 with a cerry
05:31:27 <Mir> cherry
05:31:37 <ChrisMorgan1> :?
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05:33:12 <Mir> sup
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14:14:19 <pa_3620> Hi everyone
14:15:03 <pa_3620> I would like to know if any of you have been having a NSIS error within Windows 7
14:21:35 <pa_3620> Since I started using Windows 7 every now and then the app cannot launch anymore giving me a NSIS error, even if I reinstall on the same folder the app will not launch, this occurs with every app fron Eraser to Thunderbird. Anyone knows how to fix this?
14:22:52 <agdurrette> which apps
14:23:34 <pa_3620> Eraser, Firefox and Thunderbird which I constantly use.
14:24:41 <pa_3620> Never had this problems within Vista or XP
14:27:49 <pa_3620> By the Way, I can install them, this occurs on launching
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16:05:39 <agdurrette> I dont have a windows 7 pc so I cant test it but is UAC on?
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17:12:19 <pa_4513> hey ChrisMorgan , your good with Python right?
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17:12:27 <ChrisMorgan> Yeppity.
17:12:36 <Pyromaniac> What editor do you use?
17:12:42 <Pyromaniac> i mean IDE
17:12:54 <pa_3620> Not, I even tested the Default Administrator Account which is always disabled by default.
17:13:13 <ChrisMorgan> ide? IDE? IDE!?
17:13:26 <ChrisMorgan> I use vim. Vim vim vim vim vim! :-)
17:13:50 <ChrisMorgan> Vim for breakfast, Vim for lunch, Vim for everything. Vim!
17:14:10 <Pyromaniac> vim? what vim?
17:14:16 <Pyromaniac> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vim_%28text_editor%29
17:14:41 <Pyromaniac> I was hoping you knew one for Windows that was good
17:14:44 <ChrisMorgan> Ab-so-lutely.
17:14:53 <ChrisMorgan> Vim comes for Windows too.
17:15:10 <ChrisMorgan> Dat's why I made gVim Portable.
17:16:05 <Pyromaniac> I'm learning Python, and I wanted a good IDE. I googled it, and I found Aptana Studio which absolutely destroyed my computer, freezing it every few seconds. So I used eclipse with the Pydev thingy
17:16:25 <Pyromaniac> But it's not much better.
17:16:48 <ChrisMorgan> But it takes a long time before you get *really* efficient with Vim. And then you look with pity at those poor people using Notepad... Notepad++... Eclipse... Netbeans... Aptana Studio... emacs...
17:17:28 <Pyromaniac> What do you mean by "efficient"?
17:17:56 <ChrisMorgan> Go watch someone who's used Vim for ten years. You'll understand in half a minute.
17:20:11 <ChrisMorgan> I mean that you can just work with *everything* so much faster. You may not have some of the fancy features of some of the IDEs (or you may, for many of them), but your productivity in a text editor will regularly be an order of magnitude greater than people using these other fancy tools.
17:21:45 <ChrisMorgan> Vim: steep learning curve (very steep to do it thoroughly), but it pays off with a vengeance after a year or two. And you'll still be learning about features of Vim you didn't know about twenty years later...
17:22:03 <ChrisMorgan> I grew up with Vim because Dad used it.
17:22:22 <Pyromaniac> ah
17:22:29 <Pyromaniac> I'm watching this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71YTkxUNwmg
17:22:39 <Pyromaniac> hjkl
17:22:47 <Pyromaniac> humpf
17:24:16 <Pyromaniac> Thanks
17:25:16 <Pyromaniac> I've been waiting 2 weeks to ask you that. Never saw you till now on IRC, ChrisMorgan :P
17:25:18 <ChrisMorgan> You can use the arrow keys too, but you won't regret going with hjkl after a while. I used to use the arrow keys mainly but now I use hjkl almost exclusively (only for special circumstances do I use the arrow keys). Things like Gmail and Twitter use j and k for down and up as well. (Very occasionally I even try to use hjkl in other programs by mistake...)
17:27:03 <Pyromaniac> I don't think they'll help me too much at first, though, because I still don't type the standard way, and my speed hasn't gotten much better than 50 wpm
17:28:07 <Pyromaniac> Anyway, I gotta go now, adios maestro O_O)/
17:28:24 <Pyromaniac> hey, my underscore is gone o_O
17:28:31 <Pyromaniac> bye!
17:28:35 <ChrisMorgan> Bye.
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19:56:30 <CruelC> 0hai
19:57:56 <CruelC> JTH's Windows key disabler is superseded by a function within ClassicShell. Hope ClassicShell also learns to disable CapsLock
19:58:18 <gluxon> CruelC: ClassicShell?
19:59:55 <gluxon> CruelC: No, just because another application performs the same function, does not its been superseded.
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20:07:52 <CruelC> JTH's thing was messing with registry, ClassicShell can do it without manually regedit'ing
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20:08:29 <CruelC> All ya gotta do is select "none" for Windows key action
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