IRC Log from 2011-07-21

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00:17:09 <Endymion_Mallorn> Hi. Is anyone here who has any knowledge of Freeciv Portable?
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03:36:09 <GizmoBot> auscompgeek is the oz geek, kthxbai.
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04:05:34 <GizmoBot> agdurrette is awesome! nuff said.
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05:13:35 <GizmoBot> agdurrette is awesome! nuff said.
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06:36:36 <pa_7889> hi, is it possible to change the filenames in PortableApps main menu?
06:37:08 <pa_7889> I'd like to change the "Music", "Picture" and "Video" filenames in the main menu to something else
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06:41:08 <kAlug> Khew: Not at the moment. If I remember correctly, you should be able to do it in a later release.
06:42:01 <Khew> Later realease as in "not yet released"? :-)
06:43:16 <kAlug> Yep.
06:43:24 <Khew> Okie! Thankie! ;-)
06:44:02 <kAlug> You're welcome.
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07:59:09 <GizmoBot> auscompgeek is the oz geek, kthxbai.
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08:12:36 <pa_4630> hello. i have installed PA v1.6.1.0 and just installed PA v2.0_pre_release. it's ok to copy programs folders from 1.6 to 2.0 ?
08:13:14 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Yes, it's OK.
08:14:46 <pa_4630> tpfc -> thanks
08:16:21 <TPFC-SYSTEM> You're welcome. :)
08:19:23 <pa_4630> i'ved managed to install way too many apps and i forget what they are doing [but i'm sure they are usefull]. reinstalling all would be unpleasent ...
08:20:25 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Ability to simply copy applications around is one of the advantages of portable software. :)
08:21:07 <pa_4630> and i also heared that v2 can "catalogue" the apps, so you can see some kind of description about them
08:21:43 <pa_4630> i spent lot of time on the website to find the app that i need for something and found out that i already had it installed ...
08:22:02 <pa_4630> good luck with the full release .. i;m wainting for it :)
08:23:03 <TPFC-SYSTEM> :)
08:25:41 <pa_4630> something is odd ... i've installed vlc to see where it puts the files in the folder [on hdd], moved all files from 1.6 but i can't see any app in the 2.0 ..
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08:30:30 <TPFC-SYSTEM> pa_4630: Sorry, no idea why. :(
08:31:37 <pa_4630> i think i messed up the folders .. i moved to one folder deeper or shallower than it should ...
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08:32:45 <bluebell_rose> hi
08:35:10 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Hi bluebell_rose
08:35:18 <bluebell_rose> :)
08:36:50 <bluebell_rose> :) *curious*
08:39:50 <TPFC-SYSTEM> If you have something to ask, just ask it. (That's mentioned in the channel title as well.)
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08:54:40 <GizmoBot> auscompgeek is the oz geek, kthxbai.
08:56:37 <bluebell_rose> ah ok
08:58:01 <pa_4630> bye
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08:58:08 <bluebell_rose> firefox portable 5 seems to have a faster start up time than the local firefox 5 . :)
08:58:17 * bluebell_rose likes that
09:01:40 <TPFC-SYSTEM> The Firefox binaries in Firefox Portable are unmodified.
09:01:58 <TPFC-SYSTEM> The most likely reason for the speed difference are different settings.
09:03:14 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Initially there are no cookies/local storage/extensions/whatever that slows FF down.
09:04:08 <TPFC-SYSTEM> You can later restore such speed by deleting the Data directory within Firefox Portable (doing so will reset all settings, though...)
09:04:29 <TPFC-SYSTEM> ut higher speed is nice in any case. :)
09:04:32 <TPFC-SYSTEM> *But
09:07:52 <bluebell_rose> so the lack of a cache is probably why ?
09:08:07 <bluebell_rose> I have the same extensions on both
09:09:03 <TPFC-SYSTEM> The profile gets bloated over time anyway.
09:09:25 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Initially the feature to delete private data was implemented for performance, not privacy.
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12:47:13 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
12:47:20 <GizmoBot> ...
13:24:12 <sar3th> i noticed that the link to source code at http://portableapps.com/download is pointing to the wrong location. instead of http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Source%20(PortableApps.com%20Plat)/ it leads to http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/FileZilla%20Portable/
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13:46:40 <JAWS> hello, i have found that when typing a volume label in the PAM PR1, it interferes with the search function... sometimes
13:52:34 <JAWS> help!
13:52:34 <GizmoBot> JAWS: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
13:52:59 <JAWS> i have found that when typing a volume label in the PAM PR1, it interferes with the search function... sometimes
13:54:12 <sar3th> JAWS, please post bugs here so John can keep track of them: http://portableapps.com/node/28593
13:54:52 <JAWS> one problem, i don't have an account and parents wont let me make one
13:55:12 <sar3th> oh okay
13:55:43 <JAWS> so, could someone else post it for me or something
13:57:03 <JAWS> so what do i do?
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13:58:00 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
14:00:02 <JAWS> sar3th?
14:02:50 <TPFC-SYSTEM> JAWS: I think someone may report the problem later (at least if they trigger it as well).
14:03:08 <TPFC-SYSTEM> There isn't much you can do. :(
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14:04:13 <JAWS> darn, well i hope someone does! ;)
14:09:18 <JAWS> oh, and one more question, are the way the apps are categorized in categories they are not supposed to be in a bug? sorry if that's a bit wordy, hard to explain
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14:13:33 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Winterblood has already reported something similar: http://portableapps.com/node/28593#comment-180103
14:14:02 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I think it's considered a bug IF it can be reproduced.
14:18:15 <JAWS> ok, sorry i saw that several apps were categorized in the wrong place
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14:22:33 <JAWS> oops now theres two of me i decided to install Pidgin
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14:23:31 <JAWS1> 8-)
14:25:24 <JAWS1> oohh, i like Pidgin a lot more than ChatZilla
14:26:13 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Exactly the opposite here... ;)
14:26:30 <JAWS1> ha :-D
14:27:05 <JAWS1> but, i did like that the people in room was on the left in cZ
14:28:08 <JAWS1> what don't you like about Pidgin?
14:29:05 <JAWS1> ...or should i say what shouldn't I like about it? Im just now testing it out!
14:29:07 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Most importantly the fact that it's a separate program. I try to minimize the number of applications running simultaneously.
14:29:40 <TPFC-SYSTEM> In addition, I find theming easier in ChatZilla.
14:29:54 <JAWS1> oh, that's understandable... does it take up much CPU
14:30:35 <TPFC-SYSTEM> No.
14:30:44 <JAWS1> will it change my name back when i connect next time?
14:30:51 <TPFC-SYSTEM> It takes up RAM, however (about 10 megabytes).
14:31:07 <TPFC-SYSTEM> It's easier to just run "/nick JAWS" ;)
14:31:21 <JAWS1> oh duh thats what i meant:P
14:31:39 <JAWS1> RAM not CPU :P
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14:34:41 <JAWS> how do i add AC's IRC channel?
14:35:09 <TPFC-SYSTEM> "/join #channel"
14:35:40 <JAWS> channel being assaultcube?
14:35:55 <TPFC-SYSTEM> "/join #assaultcube"
14:36:04 <JAWS> ok ;-)
14:36:37 <JAWS> wait, will that kick me off of here?
14:37:00 <TPFC-SYSTEM> That's unlikely.
14:37:17 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I'm not sure about Pidgin, I haven't used it for IRC.
14:37:35 <JAWS> this is IM isnt it
14:38:20 <TPFC-SYSTEM> This is IRC. I don't know if IRC is a subset of IM.
14:38:33 <JAWS> oh
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14:42:26 <JAWS> ok, ACs is on Quakenet and /join #assaultcube sent me to an net that noone was on
14:44:23 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Hmm, multiple network is an IRC-specific feature.
14:45:09 <JAWS> so, what do i do
14:46:13 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Found the right command: /connect <a Quakenet server address>
14:46:18 <OliverK> IRC is probably the precursor of IM
14:46:44 <OliverK> TPFC-SYSTEM: that might disconnect you from the current server, check and make sure . . . i don't use pidgin anymore . .
14:47:06 <TPFC-SYSTEM> http://www.quakenet.org/serverlist.php
14:47:28 <TPFC-SYSTEM> OliverK: Let me repeat that I don't use Pidgin for IRC...
14:48:29 <OliverK> haha
14:48:47 <OliverK> its probably something like /newserver or something
14:49:06 <JAWS> IDK
14:51:30 <JAWS> is Pidgin not very popular?
14:52:07 <kAlug> JAWS: IIRC you'll need to create a new account.
14:53:24 <JAWS> kAlug, i did that but now i dont know how to open that in a tab or something
14:54:00 <TPFC-SYSTEM> JAWS: Pidgin is one of the most popular IM programs around.
14:54:46 <JAWS> oh
14:55:40 <kAlug> JAWS: Found it: Buddies > Join a chat room
14:58:22 <JAWS> ok, but did i do something wrong because the account dropdown doesnt show the quakenet acct
14:58:38 <Gizmokid2005> For new servers
14:58:40 <Gizmokid2005> you have to have a new account
14:58:46 <Gizmokid2005> for new channels, just join a chat room
15:01:56 <JAWS> now how come i have two accounts but the AC one is not shown in the Join chat dropdown
15:04:08 <Gizmokid2005> you need to select the IRC network from the account dropdown
15:04:16 <Gizmokid2005> and then type in the channel name.
15:05:29 * OliverK suggests that if you need this kind of capability . . . you get a real IRC client
15:06:06 <JAWS> thats what what i mean it doesnt show in th acct dropdown
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15:09:32 <JAWS> ok, thx for the help and sorry to bother everyone about my "unreal" IRC client ;-) i fixed my problem! BYE8-)
15:12:40 <OliverK> JAWS: jeje
15:12:42 <OliverK> hehe*
15:12:49 <OliverK> its not that its not "real"
15:13:13 <OliverK> its capabilites are just more limited. I used to use pidgin to, but I switch to xchat, then pchat, then konversation
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15:14:08 <JAWS> well, geuss what i couldn't find where to disconnect and is there a way to integrate it with firefox to open links?
15:18:49 <JAWS> well, you know what i don't think Pidgin is for me afterall;-) i kinda knew what i was doing in Cz. although i do like the sounds Pidgin makes can cZ do that?
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15:26:53 <pa_9522> Anyone know how to make the portable chrome the default browser? When launched automatically it seems to run the exe and not the portable wrapper, so things like search shortcuts don't work
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15:31:50 <kAlug> pa_9522: Portable apps aren't designed to be set as default.
15:32:21 <kAlug> Specially using the app's own mechanism to set it.
15:32:56 <kAlug> Try setting GoogleChromePortablePortable.exe as default browser (using Open With...).
15:33:55 <pa_9522> Found the answer here: http://portableapps.com/node/28005. updating the registry keys...
15:34:07 <pa_9522> Thanks!
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16:03:56 <pa_4541> anyone active?
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16:05:04 <brentbizzle> well, i'll throw it out... i'm trying to download the portableapps suite... but it keeps downloading a tar file and i dont know what to do with it
16:08:54 <brentbizzle> ah, it seems the portableapps download keeps redirecting to 7zip
16:08:59 <TPFC-SYSTEM> brentbizzle: Try this link.
16:09:00 <TPFC-SYSTEM> http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/PortableApps.com%20Suite/PortableApps.com%20Suite%201.6.1/PortableApps.com_Suite_Setup_1.6.1_English.exe/download
16:09:25 <brentbizzle> takes me here http://sourceforge.net/projects/sevenzip/files/7-Zip/9.22/7z922.tar.bz2/download?_test=A
16:09:52 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Very odd. The link works fine for me.
16:09:52 <sar3th> works here
16:09:56 <sar3th> try http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/portableapps/PortableApps.com%20Suite/PortableApps.com%20Suite%201.6.1/PortableApps.com_Suite_Setup_1.6.1_English.exe?r=&ts=1311264579&use_mirror=leaseweb
16:10:06 <brentbizzle> i keep getting redirected to 7zip every tim
16:10:11 <brentbizzle> ime*
16:10:12 <brentbizzle> time*
16:10:14 <brentbizzle> there we go
16:10:31 <brentbizzle> again, back at 7zip
16:10:32 <brentbizzle> wtf
16:10:47 <sar3th> hm, that is very strange
16:11:23 <brentbizzle> must have had a messed up cookie
16:11:35 <brentbizzle> cleared the cookies from today and its all good
16:11:45 <brentbizzle> thanks guys
16:12:07 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Sure thing.
16:12:12 <brentbizzle> must be a sourceforge problem
16:13:19 <brentbizzle> btw, anyone know of a way to have a net accessible machine work as an irc bouncer?
16:14:00 <brentbizzle> i can't use irc at work because that port is blocked, so i want to use a computer at home to listen on an open port, then send out my irc traffic on the correct port
16:16:13 <kAlug> brentbizzle: try using a web-based client, like http://webchat.freenode.net/
16:18:30 <brentbizzle> yeah, i know the web based ones work... but i just miss having a desktop client
16:18:56 <brentbizzle> some channels frown upon the web based ones
16:19:19 <brentbizzle> whats the big one, mbit or something... i have one channel i go to that flat out blocks it
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16:28:10 <TPFC-SYSTEM> brentbizzle: I found this article about setting up a SSH server: http://lifehacker.com/205090/geek-to-live--set-up-a-personal-home-ssh-server
16:28:48 <TPFC-SYSTEM> If you combine that with irssi, you'll have a shell that bypasses firewalls and lets you use IRC.
16:31:39 <brentbizzle> whats irssi?
16:32:34 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Text-based IRC client: http://www.irssi.org/
16:41:25 <Gizmokid2005> you could just setup ZNC too and use an alternate port
16:41:40 <Gizmokid2005> most IRC stuff is blocked by port, though circumventing those blocks isn't usually a good idea.
16:54:29 * Mir viscously glomps Gizmokid2005
16:54:41 <Mir> viciously
16:54:43 <Mir> meh
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17:22:44 <brentbizzle> yeah, i was trying to setup a BNC... was in the middle of doing SSH stuff but accidently kicked my home computer offline somehow
17:23:04 <brentbizzle> was doing everything remotely from work. tried to reboot the router and now its gone
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17:59:26 <Pyromaniac> hey, anybody know where I can get the platform 2.0 PR1 source code?
18:00:23 <Pyromaniac> Maybe gluxon or Gizmokid2005 or sar3th or TPFC-SYSTEM would know?
18:02:19 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Pyromaniac: Please don't ping.
18:02:44 <Pyromaniac> I'm not pinging O_o ?
18:03:28 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I mean that you mentioned multiple nicknames.
18:03:37 <sar3th> yes Pyromaniac
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18:03:50 <Pyromaniac> Oh, yeah, just to bring em over
18:03:55 <TPFC-SYSTEM> That triggers an aggressive notification in some IRC clients.
18:04:05 <Pyromaniac> ah
18:04:13 <sar3th> Pyromaniac: http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Source%20(PortableApps.com%20Plat)/PortableApps.com%20Platform%202.0%20Pre-Release%201%20Source/Platform2.0PR1.1Source.7z/download
18:04:24 <Pyromaniac> Thought it would just ding so you'd look
18:04:32 <Pyromaniac> ok, thank you
18:04:36 <sar3th> Pyromaniac: feel free to ping me anytime, but don't expect any anwer ;D
18:04:53 <sar3th> *answer
18:05:05 <Pyromaniac> where'd you find it? I'd been searching for like 15 minutes to no avail
18:05:21 <Pyromaniac> oh, I see, nvmd
18:07:39 <Pyromaniac> bye!
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18:57:11 <GizmoBot> ptmb knows a lot about HTML+CSS, besides that, he is just a lunatic...
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19:32:43 <pa_1192> Help! I'm trying to download PortableApps. the link shows that it's going to download an exe file, but I'm getting a .tar.bz2 file as a download. I've unzipped everything and there are no executable files in the package. Any help you can give?
19:34:03 <sar3th> pa_1192: it seems to be some kind of sourceforge issue, try cleaning you cache and cookies
19:34:28 <pa_1192> I have.
19:35:05 <pa_1192> I'll try with another browser and see if that helps.
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19:37:00 <pa_1192> I'm getting the same issue with firefox.
19:37:19 <sar3th> weird, everything is fine here
19:39:10 <pa_1192> After having problems with Chrome and Firefox, I got it to download properly on IE. I'm glad I have multiple browsers. Thanks for the help!
19:39:43 <sar3th> you're welcome, i'm glad you managed to download it :)
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20:50:17 <pa_8987> Hi there. I have a load of files on a portable HD. Is there any portable app that can index the files for me so I can look through them (just their titles, not contents) without the HD plugged in?
21:07:30 <pa_8987> Hi there. I have a load of files on a portable HD. Is there any portable app that can index the files for me so I can look through them (just their titles, not contents) without the HD plugged in?
21:12:16 <kAlug> pa_8987: FreeCommander can create file lists; then you can open the list with Notepad and search through it.
21:13:59 <pa_8987> thanks
21:14:09 <kAlug> like this: http://paste.kde.org/~portableapps/99805/12828301/
21:14:56 <pa_8987> just what I needed
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23:58:29 <george2> stuff