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00:04:25 <Mark___> you guys rock
00:04:43 <Mark___> seriously thank you
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05:34:47 <kAlug> ChrisMorgan: After you release PAL 2.1.1, do you mind working in the topics/64-bit part yourself? Once you do that, I'll remove references to [Launch]:ProgramExecutable*64 from the docs and put a warning if they're used.
05:37:01 <ChrisMorgan> I'm still deciding if we /want/ to get rid of them. There could be cases where you get a significantly different value and it ends up nicer leaving %PAL:Bits% as 32/64 or something like that, rather than e.g. BitsVariable32=AppName32\appname_x86.exe and BitsVariable64=AppName64\appname_x64.exe, when you may need to write in other places a value of 32/64 or similar.
05:37:37 <ChrisMorgan> If we leave ProgramExecutable*64, that case could do without custom code to put in another bits environment variable.
05:54:45 <ChrisMorgan> kAlug: yep, regshot URL is correct.
05:56:05 <kAlug> How likely is something like that be necessary? We should avoid feature creeping the launcher with something that only a few apps will use *and* can be made with custom code.
05:58:10 <kAlug> Of course, the statement depends on the question.
06:01:51 <ChrisMorgan> 64-bit support as a whole is only used by a few apps...
06:10:08 <kAlug> What would make this feature even more useless. But, as the code is already in place... Furthermore, the idea is to allow people to write less custom code.
06:11:07 <kAlug> And so, I just nullified my own argument m(
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06:25:28 <kAlug> Does anyone know how do I allocate http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms684873(v=VS.85).aspx and http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms686331(v=VS.85).aspx using the NSIS System plugin?
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08:40:21 <pa_1843> I've gone through the docs and don't see an answer to a basic question. I've got a piece of SW, paid for, commercial, runs on a PC, that I'd like to make portable. Is this possible?
08:46:38 <pa_1843> From the "Unfinished Beginner's Development and Packaging Guide", "Commercial licenses, as a general rule, do not permit you to alter an application in any way or redistribute it." But I don't want to redistribute. I just want to use it on my system in a portable fashion.
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08:48:39 <pa_1843> Does the statement above imply that the SW has to be altered to be made portable and is therefore not generally possible with commercial software? Or was it meant to imply simply that commercial SW shouldn't be redistributed?
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09:03:42 <kAlug> pa_1843: The latter.
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23:53:16 <pa_4856> Does anyone know how to get FireFox Portable to work in WinPE 64bit? I keep getting error that the subsystem needed to support the image type is not present. Works in 32bit PE but not 64bit PE.
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23:54:59 <sar3th|trouble> [Sarah]: winPE 64 only allows you to run 64-bit applications
23:55:20 <[Sarah]> yeah so i installed the firefox portable on my 64bit platform
23:55:31 <[Sarah]> copied the source files from that to the 64bit pe image but it still errors
23:55:43 <[Sarah]> i can run the firefoxportable version in my 64 bit win7 OS
23:55:55 <[Sarah]> i'm wondering what I could be missing from my PE image that is defaulted in the 32bit version
23:56:20 <sar3th|trouble> you're not, it's a component that is present in regular 64-bit systems but not on windows pe
23:56:33 <[Sarah]> do you know what it could be?
23:56:57 <sar3th|trouble> called Windows On Windows 64 (WOW64)
23:57:35 <sar3th|trouble> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WoW64
23:57:43 <[Sarah]> so on my 64bit os i see c:\windows\syswow64
23:58:32 <sar3th|trouble> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc766093(WS.10).aspx
23:58:35 <sar3th|trouble> Windows PE Limitations
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23:59:26 <[Sarah]> but what is weird that it works in winpe 32bit
23:59:34 <[Sarah]> then i try in winpe 64bit and it fails
23:59:46 <sar3th|trouble> that's because your application is 32-bit
23:59:47 <[Sarah]> and i didn't configure anything different in its execution for 32bit pe