IRC Log from 2011-07-28
00:00:07 <sar3th|trouble> it will work in regular winpe, but 64-pe can't execute 32-bit apps
00:01:18 <[Sarah]> but isn't the version i downloaded which is version 5.0.1 supports windows 7 64bit
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00:01:52 <sar3th|trouble> hm, supports win7 64 bit does not equal is 64-bit application...i'll check it
00:02:01 <[Sarah]> ok
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00:08:09 <sar3th|trouble> from what i can see, firefox portable is 32-bit only
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00:09:51 <[Sarah]> that sucks
00:10:07 <[Sarah]> do you know if they will ever create a full 64-bit version?
00:12:20 <sar3th> i am pretty sure john has a statement on that, but i can't seem to find it
00:13:42 <[Sarah]> hmm wonder if I can request a version that will work in 64bit
00:13:50 <[Sarah]> thanks for checking sar3th
00:14:07 <sar3th> you can request one, but i'm not sure if it will be done
00:14:14 <sar3th> yw
00:14:17 <[Sarah]> yeah its always worth a try :)
00:14:20 <[Sarah]> thanks again!
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00:59:42 <kAlug> hi JohnTHaller!
00:59:44 <JohnTHaller> Hola. Pre-Release 2 has been posted
01:00:41 <kAlug> I see. Running it right now. I think it has a problem...
01:01:39 <kAlug> PortugueseBrazilian encoded wrongly
01:04:52 <JohnTHaller> Yup. Joys of character encoding conversion issue
01:05:18 <JohnTHaller> added it to known issues
01:06:20 <JohnTHaller> could you send me a link to your last file of it?
01:09:47 <kAlug> Sorry. The file has been deleted by the installer and I'm unable to find it in the KDE Pastebin. Doing it manually right now.
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01:10:58 <JohnTHaller> Sorry about that. For some reason it didn't copy and paste properly out of pastebin while all the others did.
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01:17:21 <kAlug> JohnTHaller: I forgot to ask you something.
01:18:22 <JohnTHaller> what
01:20:05 <JohnTHaller> I gotta run to another event in a minute. I'm still at OSCON.
01:20:41 <kAlug> Make the Platform set the PAL:_IgnoreLanguage environment variable to false, or unset it.
01:21:53 <kAlug> It's required for PAL 2.1.1 automatic langauge switching to work properly.
01:22:03 <JohnTHaller> I don't know what that is as it's not something I've ever used.
01:22:12 <JohnTHaller> And Chris never mentioned it to me to include.
01:23:05 <kAlug> Otherwise the app will just ignore the Platform language if the latter is launcher from e.g. a portable file manager.
01:23:25 <kAlug> http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/launcher/manual/releases/2.1.1/#flaws-in-automatic-language-switching-in-nested-launchers
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01:23:40 <JohnTHaller> When the user is set not to use language switching, the platform unsets all the env vars just as the user would see if they were launching the app directly and just as the old platforms do it. PAL 2.1.1 can't randomly add a requirement for it because I can't retroactively add it to old platform releases.
01:25:25 <kAlug> The problem happens when 1) You run a portable file manager directly; 2) you run the Platform from it; 3) you launch an app from the Platform (and language switching is enabled)
01:26:20 <kAlug> Running the Platform directly will still work properly.
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01:29:37 <JohnTHaller> Could you type it up in an email or forum post? That makes sense and I can probably get it into 2.1 which I'll need to push to fix PortugueseBrazilian
01:30:08 <JohnTHaller> And could you email me a link to those fixed string? I may be able to push it out tonight if I can get fast enough internet (which is an issue atm).
01:30:18 <JohnTHaller> I have to run now or I'll be late for the next event
01:31:31 <kAlug> OK.
01:32:29 <JohnTHaller> If you can get me both of those (and what you need that variable set to by the platform) I can get it into the release late tonight or tomorrow
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01:50:43 <JAWS> hello, just thought I'd ask about the wallpaper swithcher. Does it do multiple pics or is that coming in the future?
01:53:22 <kAlug> IDK. I've found no mention of this.
01:53:24 <JAWS> kAlug: to answer your question, "Jul 26, 2011 @ 22:12 GMT <kAlug> tell JAWS Why do you need a VBS->EXE converter?", I want to make a vbs script that hides/shows hidden files so i can use it in the PAM
01:53:50 <JAWS> into an exe
01:54:00 <kAlug> Use the PortableApps.com Launcher
01:55:32 <JAWS> do i have to make the vbs into something else first, the browse doesnt show it
01:55:44 <kAlug> Set ProgramExecutable=%WinDir%\System32\WScript.exe and CommandLineArguments='"%PAL:AppDir%\YourScript.vbs"'
01:56:22 <kAlug> Scripts aren't really executed, they are interpreted (by WScript, in this case)
01:56:56 <JAWS> woah, you lost me there, using run or CMD
01:57:00 <JAWS> ?
01:58:10 <kAlug> CMD interprets BAT and CMD files, PowerShell interprets PS1
01:58:56 <JAWS> i mean command prompt, is that the same as CMD
01:59:16 <kAlug> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Interpreted_language
01:59:46 <kAlug> Yes, it is.
02:00:31 <JAWS> oh
02:02:51 <kAlug> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Windows_Script_Host
02:04:50 <JAWS> well, I pretty much don't know what I'm doing, could you explain it a little more for me please. ;)
02:08:23 <JAWS> how do i get a "secure connection" like yours says instead of whatever I have now?
02:09:47 <kAlug> You need to use Wikimedia's secure servers. As I use DuckDuckGo bangs to search, it's automatic for me.
02:11:10 <JAWS> ok, thx
02:11:58 <kAlug> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=!w%20WSH&kh=1
02:12:45 <JAWS> is there a FF addon for that?
02:14:47 <JAWS> This is what I was referring to about the wallpaper [excerpt from the buglist] "Wallpaper switcher when run on Windows 7 will disable wallpaper slideshow if one was active". Is the slideshow not what I'm thinking of? I don't have Windows 7
02:16:01 <kAlug> Windows 7 wallpaper can be a slideshow.
02:16:52 <JAWS> so the slideshow isn't pertaining to the PAM?
02:17:21 <kAlug> Right.
02:18:11 <kAlug> For DuckDuckGo, you can go to http://ddg.gg/ and click 'Add to Firefox'.
02:18:53 <kAlug> Tip: search for 'is it raining?'
02:19:23 <JAWS> oh, ok thanks for the explaination
02:19:36 <JAWS> and the link
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02:23:38 <JAWS> sorry, had to restart FireFox
02:31:13 <JAWS> Thanks for the help everyone, Bye
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03:23:00 <kAlug> .tell JohnTHaller Please check http://portableapps.com/node/28699 when you review my portable app template. Thanks.
03:23:00 <GizmoBot> kAlug: I'll pass that on when JohnTHaller is around.
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14:28:48 <pa_8156> hello
14:29:20 <pa_8156> i want to know how to change the themes
14:29:22 <pa_8156> ???
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15:21:35 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is the developer of Armagetron Advanced Portable, Evince Portable & ZSoft Uninstaller Portable
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16:03:58 <zoz> hello. i'm running w7, and when i start PA, besides being put in the clock tray, it's also put on the task bar. any hint how to remove it from there ?
16:06:10 <GordCaswell> What version are you running? Pre-release 2.1?
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16:07:36 <GordCaswell> That is a known bug in the current pre-releases: http://portableapps.com/node/28593 If you're running an older version, see here: http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#disablewin7taskbar
16:11:05 <zoz> i'm using 2.1 .. downloaded today ... until today i was using 2.0 [for 3 days or so] with same issue, and also the older 0.6 the same
16:11:58 <GordCaswell> For the older versions, the support link says how to fix it, and the pre-release bug will be fixed before final release
16:12:19 <GordCaswell> as far as we know, anyway
16:12:37 <zoz> than i'll wait. thanks for help, time and patience :)
16:12:46 <GordCaswell> no problem
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16:44:57 <Mir> i guess no one cares about dead link on the site
16:45:48 <Mir> no one has paid any attention to the post i made about a link ro a project leading to some green building news site
16:46:21 <Mir> i guess i need to get an angry mob of n00bz who when they find this whine like crazy :(
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18:08:07 <JAWS> hello, quick question, is the PAM supposed to still find the word "portable" even though hide portable in app names is on?
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18:38:47 <ChrisMorgan> JAWS: what do you mean?
18:41:12 <JAWS> well, i wanted to see (because the hide "portable" in app names was added) if i typed portable if all the apps would show or none. I believe all of them show because Portable was part of their name, but I'm not sure.
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18:41:38 <JAWS> ...into the find-as-you type, that is
18:43:49 <benedikt93> I just tried, it does show all
18:44:59 <JAWS> ok, is that a bug?
18:57:06 <ChrisMorgan> Report it as "undesirable", and also put in a request that the " Portable"/", Portable Edition" always be stripped when searching. (or else e.g. starting searching for any of the letters abeloprt will match all but a very few of our apps - ones which are bad such as Atomic Tanks plus Toucan.)
18:57:14 <ChrisMorgan> That'll save me from requesting it... goodnight.
18:59:03 <JAWS> thank you! ;)
19:04:52 <JAWS> bye
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19:16:32 * pa_8878 The new PA.c Platform 2.0 Pre-Release 2 is amazing! Just installed it and am very pleased and impressed.
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19:43:56 <pa_3477> help
19:43:57 <GizmoBot> pa_3477: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
19:45:40 <pa_3477> I was trying to download the portable app installer but it won't fully dl, I tried different mirrors but the same thing happens with each one.
19:46:57 <pa_3477> nevermind it just finished. sry people.
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20:55:03 <mica> hello guys
20:55:29 <mica> just downloaded portable apps......
20:55:52 <mica> help?
20:55:53 <GizmoBot> mica: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
20:57:06 <mica> ok i downloaded portable apps but am a little confused on how i should transfer the apps?
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20:59:12 <Simeon> hi all
20:59:21 <mica> hello
20:59:39 <Simeon> hi mica
21:01:20 <mica> so are you a developer?
21:01:32 <Simeon> yes
21:02:01 <mica> great i have a very basic question?
21:02:13 <Simeon> ok
21:02:44 <mica> am a little confused about how to lad my favourite programs using portable apps....
21:02:53 <mica> how to load
21:03:09 <Simeon> what do you mean with load?
21:03:49 <mica> i meant loading them onto a USB drive( assuming thats how i am supposed to use it?
21:04:33 <Simeon> yes. if you want to use the menu, install it first to the root of a drive and thenm just install the apps.
21:05:31 <Simeon> THey are installers but they dont install stuff to your PC but to your USB drive/IPod/hard drive/whatever shows up with a driveletter in windows.
21:06:19 <Simeon> then you use them and move between PCs, and your settings will be there for you.
21:06:50 <mica> ok i see. cool thanks a lot you have been very helpful
21:07:08 <Simeon> glad I could help you
21:07:37 <Simeon> If there are further questions or even only a big thank you, feel free to come back here or to the forums
21:08:08 <mica> thanks
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