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12:07:25 <Thasmo> Does anybody know if there will be a pa.c Version of Skype 5.5 any soon?
12:13:31 <ZachThibeau> it's done when it's done, that's how it's always been done :P
12:28:38 <Thasmo> ZachThibeau, :D
12:29:40 <ZachThibeau> if we set deadlines then we would be like valve, as you may of noticed a while back when 2.0 was first announced :P
12:35:22 <Thasmo> ZachThibeau, or 3D Realms :D
12:35:40 <ZachThibeau> lol never heard of it but ok xD
12:37:02 <Thasmo> ZachThibeau, Duke Nukem Forever? :>
12:37:54 <ZachThibeau> meh never cared for Duke Nukem but I knew it was coming though, eventually and it has finally lol
12:40:28 <Thasmo> :>
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15:42:03 <Akitu> Looking for some help with the 2.1 pre-realease. I installed it to the root of my drive but none of my apps are showing up at all.
15:42:13 <Akitu> *release
15:43:38 <Akitu> Anyone able to shed some light on this? I'm currently experimenting with the apps folder.
15:44:46 <Rapscallion__> @Akitu Where do you have the apps installed to?
15:45:35 <Rapscallion__> They must be in a subfolder called PortableApps
15:46:10 <Rapscallion__> and each app must be in a subfolder of the PortableApps folder
15:48:21 <Akitu> Apps are installed in a subfolder with the name PortableApps and each app has its own subfolder. I upgraded from the 1.6.1 stable to the 2.1 PR.
15:49:20 <Rapscallion__> Hmmm. And you dont see any apps at all in the Menu?
15:49:25 <Akitu> Just installed into the root of the drive as mentioned multiple times in forums and regarding the PR post. Apps aren't displayed anymore... Updater can still find and update them however.
15:49:31 <Akitu> No. Menu is totally blank.
15:50:16 <Rapscallion__> Is it a display issue (can you still click on apps in the menu)?
15:50:55 <Akitu> There are no apps in the menu, all of the folders etc. work as they should so I don't believe it's a display issue.
15:52:30 * Akitu Borked my 2.1 install
15:52:51 <Rapscallion__> I am trying to think waht it may be, but I really dont havea clue.
15:53:12 <Akitu> I'm gonna remove all saved files off my drive and re-install fresh.
15:53:54 <Akitu> In the 2.1, are the apps now installed to the app folder? Drive\PortableApps\PortableApps.com\App?
15:54:03 <Rapscallion__> Yeah I was going to say install fresh and then move apps over into the PortableApps folder and see if the show up
15:54:16 <Rapscallion__> no they are in drive\PortableApps
15:54:28 <Rapscallion__> drive\PortableApps\App
15:54:51 <Akitu> When I install the 2.1 PR it adds a new subfolder in between, the PortableApps.com folder.
15:55:15 <Rapscallion__> App being a folder of the portable app ie. I:\PortableApps\7-ZipPortable\
15:55:45 <Rapscallion__> the portableapps.com folder is the menu
15:56:37 <Akitu> After just doing the upgrade, my folder path is now G:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com - within this PA.com folder is my App, Data, Other, Backup and restore etc.
15:56:55 <Akitu> So you're saying it shouldn't have the PA.com folder?
15:57:22 <Rapscallion__> yes it should that is where the platform (menu) is installed to
15:58:06 <Akitu> Created a new folder called PortableApps in there, moving some files... See if it works.
15:58:36 <Rapscallion__> in the root you will see Start.exe which essentially is a launcher for drive:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com\PortableAppsPlatform.exe
15:58:57 <Akitu> Yeah I have that.
15:59:00 <Rapscallion__> k
15:59:31 <Rapscallion__> This is the structure you should have..
16:00:42 <Rapscallion__> x:\PortableApps\"All_App_Folders"\
16:01:39 <Akitu> So there's no subfolder required anymore for the apps? It's all just thrown in the 1 directory?
16:02:10 <Akitu> Oh wait.
16:02:12 <Akitu> Now I see it...
16:02:15 <Akitu> SMH
16:02:36 <Rapscallion__> Sorry If I am confusing you... :-( you still need a subfolder per app
16:02:50 <Akitu> No, no confusion, you helped me un-confuse myself.
16:03:14 <Rapscallion__> ahh good
16:03:33 <Akitu> Each app has its own subfolder of course, but all apps should be in the PortableApps folder. Quite odd considering when I did the installation it created all 3 in a linear fashion.
16:03:56 <Rapscallion__> hmm that is strange.
16:04:05 <Akitu> Created the PortableApps folder, but within that it created PortableApps.com and within that it created the other folders (app etc).
16:05:14 <Akitu> So, in light of this discovery... Should I be moving the PA.com folder and all contents to the root of the drive as well?
16:05:17 <Rapscallion__> hmm.. whne you install new apps make sure you chose X:\PortablesApps\NewApp\ as the installation path (this should be what is recomended by the installer
16:05:39 <Akitu> I haven't installed any new apps, migrating my 1.6.1 apps to the 2.1
16:06:15 <Rapscallion__> X:\PortableApps\
16:06:22 <Rapscallion__> X:\PortableApps\PortableApps.com
16:06:31 <Rapscallion__> X:\PortableApps\NewApps\
16:07:10 <Rapscallion__> everything must be inside X:\PortableApps\ folder
16:08:27 <Rapscallion__> Sorry I will be back in about 40 minutes (i am at work and have a conference call in 3 minutes)
16:08:38 <Akitu> Sure, thanks for the assistance, I'll see what I can come up with.
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20:33:41 <alkj> hi there, did anyone try to download the portable firefox sources?
20:35:35 <Rapscallion> not recently. Are you having an issue with it?
20:35:59 <alkj> Because you wont get it! The link "Firefox source" points to a FileZilla download repository!
20:36:28 <Rapscallion> :-) yup I get the same thing!
20:36:58 <Rapscallion> I would post it in the forum.
20:37:31 <alkj> there?: http://portableapps.com/support/firefox_portable
20:38:04 <Rapscallion> no here http://portableapps.com/forums/support/firefox_portable
20:38:57 <alkj> ahh, I see - posting...
20:40:16 <Rapscallion> John and crew will likely fix it pretty quick once it's posted.
20:41:16 <Rapscallion> for now you can use this... http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Mozilla%20Firefox%2C%20Portable%20Ed./
20:42:29 <Rapscallion> nvm I gave you the wrong link... sorry
20:44:41 <Rapscallion> Here is the correct link (I hope ;-) ): http://sourceforge.net/projects/portableapps/files/Source%20%28Firefox%29/
20:47:29 <alkj> not really - missing >= 4.x sources.
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20:47:58 <Rapscallion> look under "Additional versions" right at the top of the list
20:48:35 <alkj> there are only the originals I think
20:48:45 <Rapscallion> I know its seems backwards as you would think the older verison would be the "Additional"
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20:50:30 <Rapscallion> I dont think it's the orig. as it would likey point to Mozilla and not PortableApps (but don't quote me)
20:50:31 <alkj> I'll compare the source from Mozilla to this one...
20:51:05 <Rapscallion> Sorry I can't give you a more definitive answer.
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20:53:17 <alkj> they are the same
20:53:23 <Rapscallion> hmm...
20:53:39 <alkj> indeed ;)
20:54:30 <Rapscallion> well unfortunately I can't really help then. But like I said someone more in the know will likely fix it soon now that you posted in the forum.
20:54:49 <alkj> look at this: http://portableapps.com/node/26766
20:55:14 <Rapscallion> hmm from February!
20:55:25 <alkj> yes!
20:55:43 <alkj> something is wrong here!
20:56:45 <Rapscallion> Well I know that John has a lot on his plate. (what with V2 etc.) But this should be a priority IMO
20:57:32 <Rapscallion> I rarely have DL's sources so I took it for granted that they would be good
20:58:43 <alkj> maybe - we really dont know...
20:58:45 <gluxon> Considering how this wasn't reported before, I don't think it's that important.
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20:59:10 <gluxon> I don't think anyone actually downloads the source code for our launchers.
20:59:22 <gluxon> If they needed it, most people just download the whole package.
20:59:30 <Rapscallion> True but by "law" ;-) they need to be available don't they?
20:59:54 <gluxon> They are.
21:00:04 <alkj> Oh, it was reported before - and I would like too. Its marked as Open Source! So make it open...
21:00:35 <alkj> @gluxon: but where?
21:00:41 <Rapscallion> available != accessible
21:01:03 <gluxon> Rapscallion: Since the source is included in the package, it's available :)
21:01:19 <alkj> ahh - lawyers...
21:02:01 * gluxon is no lawyer
21:02:10 <Rapscallion> but that is just the launcher. I may be very wrong here but I was under the impression that Firefox was an excpetion in that the actual package was different as well.
21:02:30 <Rapscallion> not just a fancy launcher.
21:02:52 <alkj> You are right - the starter's source is in the package. But I did not ask for the starter, I asked for the portable firefox itself...
21:09:04 <alkj> it sounds hard but because of the fact that there is no source code available at least since february 2011 everyone should consider Portable Firefox as a no more secure browsing solution.
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