IRC Log from 2011-08-09
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00:04:57 <pa_6938> Hi... I am trying to make a portable app using the launcher and it says an error occurred. The log file says that appinfo.ini doesn't exist. When I look in the folder nothing is in there except the application- no App Data or Other. Am I doing something wrong? I'm using the 2.1.1 version.
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01:12:18 <GizmoBot> zachthibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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01:18:27 <JAWS> hi
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01:39:51 <kAlug> pa_6938: Use the PortableApps.com Development Toolkit, available at http://portableapps.com/node/27502
01:43:03 * Mir is pissed
01:44:19 <Mir> some @$$hole is a member for only 3 %*#&^ing hours and is already calling someone stupid and that they should not be using a computer
01:44:29 <Mir> and that someone is ME
01:44:42 * Mir needs to blow something up
01:51:33 <gluxon> Mir: Yeah, I read that post :-/
01:52:56 <Mir> i tried biting my tounge
01:53:12 <Mir> but when i noticed he had only been a member for 3 hours....
01:53:19 <Mir> the dam broke loose
01:53:39 <Mir> i tried my best and i did behave and not go all out
01:54:01 <Mir> but that only is leading me to build up MOAR anger and want to cause genocide
01:54:44 * Mir bro fists to gluxon
01:55:01 <gluxon> :P
01:55:09 <Mir> sup f00
01:55:12 <Mir> :)
01:55:20 <gluxon> I predicted that you would talk about this on IRC :P
01:55:39 <gluxon> Well, actually, in the -ot room..
01:57:43 <Mir> ;>.>
01:58:07 <Mir> there would be too much echo from the explosions and whatnot
01:58:18 <Mir> and too few warm bodies
01:58:34 <Mir> though after the thermite everything would be a bit warm :)
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02:14:31 <GizmoBot> zachthibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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02:26:59 <pa_2372> do I need to create appinfo.ini when using the launcher
02:29:52 <kAlug> pa_2372: The PA.c Development Toolkit will do that automatically for you.
02:30:41 <kAlug> This is the screen equivalent to appinfo.ini: http://chrismorgan.info/temp/development-toolkit-004.png
02:31:53 <pa_2372> in the launcher, it opens for about 2 seconds then says that appinfo.ini doesn't exist...
02:32:27 <pa_2372> thanks, I just downloaded the kit a few minutes ago because it was recommended
02:32:48 <kAlug> Did you used the Development Toolkit to create the basic directory structure?
02:33:28 <pa_2372> no, should I have... and how do you do it?
02:34:25 <kAlug> Run it and click "Create a new portable app..." and then select a new folder.
02:34:56 <pa_2372> ok, I might be back, but thanks for your help
02:34:56 <kAlug> Then fill the data in the "App details" window
02:35:20 <pa_2372> Now I think I can create it
02:35:43 <kAlug> More info on the fields of that window: http://portableapps.com/development/portableapps.com_format#appinfo
02:42:17 <pa_2372> I can't get past the edit page even though I click save
02:44:02 <pa_2372> I figured it out... I just had to close the window
02:49:46 <pa_2372> Do I have to modify icons to a certain size
02:50:01 <pa_2372> To fit appicon 16, 32 etc...
02:51:47 <kAlug> Yes: http://portableapps.com/development/portableapps.com_format#icons
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04:13:34 <vf2nsr> Mir: Wow did that user slam you or what?
04:14:04 <vf2nsr> Some one needs to rock him to sleep with A REALLY BIG rock
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06:51:19 <Mir> .tell vf2nsr he did and i am super pissed as he was only a member for 3 hours before posting that
06:51:20 <GizmoBot> Mir: I'll pass that on when vf2nsr is around.
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08:05:00 <zoz> hello
08:07:44 <zoz> question: is it possible to add the description of the app (like in http://portableapps.com/apps page) when you move the mouse over the app list in launcher ? [it already shows the name of the app, who code it and the location on disk/stick]
08:08:34 <zoz> i found that sometimes only the category of the software doesn't help into remembering what an app does :)
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08:18:33 <pa_4531> Are there portableapps admins?
08:18:53 <pa_4531> I've a question regarding the publishing of own created apps.
08:20:04 <pa_4531> I've created a text/file encodeing tool. And now I 'll publish it on portableapps.com. I've already wrote a post in your Forum (Beta Testing). But nothing happens.
08:20:09 <pa_4531> How should I proceed?
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08:43:42 <kAlug> pa_4531: Link, please?
08:47:35 <kAlug> zoz: Many people already asked for that feature. *Maybe* it'll be included if/when we localize the descriptions.
08:49:03 <pa_4531> What have I to do? Just wait?
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08:51:30 <kAlug> Konsi: what's the link for the post?
08:54:54 <zoz> kAlug : thanks, picked a ticket for that waiting queue :)
08:55:39 <Konsi> @kAlug: The link to my post is: http://portableapps.com/node/28773
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09:06:53 <kAlug> Konsi: there are some issues with your package: http://kalug.net/p/1000/
09:07:23 <zoz> have a nice day
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09:09:14 <kAlug> You also don't need App\AppName nor App\DefaultData.
09:13:34 <Konsi> kAlug: thanks. I'll fix the issues and come back to you.
09:17:07 <kAlug> A question: where does Crypter writes its settings to?
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09:35:33 <Konsi> kAlug: crypter doesn't write settings, because there are no setting options.
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14:09:59 <pa_1173> Do I have to create 6 appicon.ico's 16px-256, 32px-256, ..., 16 px True Color + Alfa?
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14:58:03 <apptoapplet> Ha;;p
14:58:08 <apptoapplet> Grr....Hallo
14:58:25 <apptoapplet> Anyone here really good at java?
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20:37:17 <Thasmo> Anybody here who would help me with a pa.c WinSCP error? I can't change language and on start it complains the file would not contain translations.
20:38:47 <gluxon> Thasmo: Post it on the forums. I seem to be the only one active, and I don't know the answer.
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21:37:28 <Lars9> hey, is anyone around?
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21:39:55 <sar3th> yes
21:40:20 <Lars9> hi. are you into music?
21:41:00 <Lars9> I'm looking for somebody knowledgable about OGG format or at least format conversion
21:41:52 <sar3th> i wouldn't say that i am into music, but i know a bit about audio formats and conversion. if i can help you depends on what you want to know ;)
21:42:14 <Lars9> basically I want to convert a fairly large mp3 collection to ogg
21:42:31 <Lars9> I've tried XMedia recode but it's not easy
21:42:46 <Lars9> and one problem is that the mp3 files sometimes have different qualities
21:43:10 <Lars9> and it would be a waste of time to re-encode, say 160kbps mp3 to 196kbps ogg... but not always
21:43:46 <Lars9> but not 320kbps mp3 to ogg. There's no way to convert to maximum possible bitrate given the original file bitrate
21:45:34 <sar3th> yes, converting from a lossy format to another does usually make little sense
21:46:40 <Lars9> yeah. I suppose it's probably not worth the bother. Just have to stick with mp3, but I now hate that format
21:47:15 <Lars9> It gets really annoying when everyone follows a bad standard... like everyone using Windows or using feet and miles instead of a metric system
21:48:30 <sar3th> i agree about the miles part, but why do you dislike mp3 so much?
21:49:18 <Lars9> it takes up more space than it should, it's a proprietary format, it's outdated, it doesnt have gapless built in
21:49:35 <sar3th> the problem with converting from lossy to lossy by the way is that quality degrades
21:50:25 <Lars9> yeah, my problem is that if I'm not careful I could end up with 196kbps ogg files converted from 128 mp3 files so they're taking up lots of space but poorer quality
21:51:28 <sar3th> yes. unfortunately i do not know of any method to solve that problem :( you could try to use some kind of library application and sort by bitrate to find out which files need to be converted how
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21:52:21 <Lars9> yeah. I guess I should just stick with mp3. My music collection is getting bloated anyhow
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21:52:41 <Lars9> it's really tempting to just delete the whole lot and keep 25 albums at really high quality or something
21:52:49 <Lars9> 25 outstanding albums
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