IRC Log from 2011-08-15

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02:59:32 <kAlug> JohnTHaller: I believe uNSIS should be updated: http://portableapps.com/node/19705#comment-181944
02:59:53 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I saw. Was the registry plugin updated?
03:01:57 <kAlug> Yes, v4.1.
03:03:12 <JohnTHaller> I mean the one in uNSIS itself?
03:03:28 <kAlug> It doesn't seems to be included.
03:05:29 <JohnTHaller> old one included or none?
03:07:06 <kAlug> None. At least I was unable to find it with 7-Zip.
03:13:05 <kAlug> Regarding Pageant and TortoiseHg (Aug 12): what about including Pageant in PuTTY Portable and dropping it from individual packages?
03:13:35 <JohnTHaller> We'd have no way to manage it. It's a commandline only tool, and they simply suck on Windows.
03:14:09 <kAlug> Not really. It's a SysTray app.
03:14:44 <kAlug> Just like http://portableapps.com/node/28677
03:15:13 <JohnTHaller> Oh, hmm, what was I thinking of
03:17:02 <JohnTHaller> If you have some better ideas around PuTTY (and it's associated bits), I think you should probably propose them in the forum and maybe run with them. I maintain PuTTY just because people asked for it a while back. I don't use it myself other than to occasionallity connect into PA.c's server.
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03:24:37 <kAlug> The good thing is that, AFAICT, Pageant doesn't have any settings. Not even in the Registry.
03:25:38 <kAlug> There are some requests to include Pageant with PuTTY Portable in the forums, too.
03:28:31 <JohnTHaller> I don't even know what it does, heh
03:33:07 * kAlug is searching for a good analogy...
03:33:33 <JohnTHaller> man .NET apps are slow
03:34:51 <kAlug> And huge. They eat all my RAM.
03:35:06 <sar3th> firefox does that too^
03:35:54 <JohnTHaller> Not really. It uses it and gives it back as needed. And if you're obsessive about RAM, you can always set it to free it on minimizing.
03:36:50 <kAlug> It seems that Firefox is going to cut it's memory usage in half.
03:38:17 <gluxon> kAlug: That depends on how you use the browser.
03:38:36 <kAlug> JohnTHaller: Pageant is a sort of key cache, so you don't need to type the password every time you make a connection. Do you use FileZilla?
03:38:55 <sar3th> any application does that, it's just ff that usually allocates a lot of ram for me
03:39:30 <gluxon> sar3th: How much RAM does your system have?
03:40:27 <kAlug> Found the news: http://blog.mozilla.com/nnethercote/2011/08/09/firefox-7-is-lean-and-fast-2/
03:41:23 <sar3th> it's beta now :)
03:42:41 <gluxon> And Firefox 8 is equal in speed to Chrome 14 :)
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03:49:47 <kAlug> Interesting. You can also start PuTTY from within Pageant.
03:50:31 <sar3th> isn't pageant basically a password manager for putty?
03:50:44 <kAlug> Yep.
03:50:59 <JohnTHaller> But doesn't PuTTY have a place to save passwords in itself?
03:51:06 <kAlug> Nope.
03:51:29 <kAlug> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/wishlist/remember-password.html
03:51:35 <sar3th> KiTTY does, but PuTTY does not
03:51:58 <kAlug> Also, http://superuser.com/questions/102993/store-passwords-in-putty/102994#102994
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04:16:40 <kAlug> Well, at least this issue gave me some ideas for multiple PAL launchers.
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13:36:05 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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16:31:02 <pa_0462> hello
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16:36:56 <pa_7499> hey anybody know how to fix this?
16:36:58 <pa_7499> http://tinypic.com/r/2aet55v/7
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16:38:55 <pa_7499> hello?
16:41:44 <pa_7499> anyone there?
16:43:36 <kAlug> Yes. I don't use Skype.
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16:47:13 <Gizmokid2005> pa_7499: what country are you in?
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17:02:03 <pa_7499> america
17:02:46 <pa_7499> usa
17:04:38 <Gizmokid2005> pa_7499: then it's likely a firewall of some sort blocking the download given the error
17:05:02 <pa_7499> only happens with skype
17:05:16 <Gizmokid2005> may be the only thing that's blocked, by name or similar
17:05:21 <Gizmokid2005> try downloading it via direct link.
17:05:24 <pa_7499> i think that helps though thanks
17:05:47 <Gizmokid2005> http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/skype_portable
17:05:48 <pa_7499> fixed
17:05:51 <Gizmokid2005> use the download button there.
17:05:51 <pa_7499> thanks
17:05:59 <pa_7499> i didn't realize
17:06:06 <pa_7499> it was bein blocked
17:07:14 <Gizmokid2005> that's what the "access denied" part of the error refers to
17:20:13 <pa_7499> i figured but i wasnt connected to the right network so it blocked it
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20:04:35 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is the developer of Armagetron Advanced Portable, Evince Portable & ZSoft Uninstaller Portable
20:04:55 <GordCaswell> .seen horusofoz
20:04:56 <GizmoBot> Sorry, I haven't seen horusofoz around.
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20:47:21 <GizmoBot> zachthibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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21:02:48 <kAlug> Hey GordCaswell!
21:02:58 <GordCaswell> Hey kAlug!
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21:03:50 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
21:07:42 <kAlug> GordCaswell: I have some tips for you Mercurial repos.
21:08:11 <GordCaswell> I like tips. Hit me
21:09:59 <kAlug> 1. You don't need to include the launcher. This way each changeset is not tied to a specific PAL version.
21:11:08 <kAlug> 2. Don't include the Data directory. It can contain personal information.
21:12:09 <kAlug> This .hgignore handles both. It's the one I use: http://kalug.net/p/1005/
21:14:07 <GordCaswell> Hmm, so i can still have the launcher in my local repo toi test with, then commit, and it won't be in the remote repo, right?
21:14:21 <kAlug> Correct.
21:14:36 <GordCaswell> Nice. I'll add that to all my projects now
21:26:29 <sar3th> wait, portableapps is using a repo for portableapps now?
21:27:29 <kAlug> Nope. Each developer can choose to do it or not.
21:28:23 <kAlug> This is of GordCaswell: https://bitbucket.org/GordCaswell. This is mine: https://gitorious.org/~kalug
21:44:56 <GordCaswell> kAlug: can you take a look at the custom.nsh from this repo: https://bitbucket.org/GordCaswell/kchmviewerportable
21:45:30 <GordCaswell> I still can't get it to convert hex to string and back, and it's driving me crazy!
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21:50:12 <kAlug> Put some MessageBoxes and see if it's reading the values correctly.
21:51:02 <GordCaswell> I'll try that.
21:51:50 <gluxon> kAlug: A bit off-topic, but the Eclipse Portable Platform Runtime Binary has been uploaded.
21:52:46 <GordCaswell> Nothing's off-topic here, gluxon :) at least, not when there's not legit support going on. And I don't consider dev issues legit support :)
21:52:50 <kAlug> gluxon: Thanks! Downloading now.
21:53:14 <gluxon> GordCaswell: What I meant was off-topic from what you guys were talking about :)
21:53:21 <GordCaswell> gotcha
21:54:51 <gluxon> Hm.. I've got a CMS that's about half-way to being complete. Trouble is, I need a name. Think I should use my blogging powers on PortableApps.com to ask for suggestions?
21:57:05 <kAlug> Cool! More webdev here!
21:57:34 * kAlug is working on a Beta Testing Post Generator
21:59:02 <sar3th> "Update automatically or install from the app store in the PortableApps.com Platform Pre-Release."
21:59:41 <sar3th> seems the platform is trying to become steam for apps ;)
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22:01:03 <gluxon> App Store is just a bad term for the stuff here.
22:01:40 <gluxon> "Store" gives off the impression that you buy something.
22:02:01 <sar3th> it's hopefully more than that: a centralized way to obtain official portableapps
22:02:19 <sar3th> yes, that is indeed correct
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22:44:32 <solanus_> Looks like JTH has started to release more apps.
22:45:22 <solanus_> Although I the title of his post for the Blender release has a typo in the version
22:47:15 <kAlug> solanus_: Only updates.
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