IRC Log from 2011-08-21

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04:10:37 <Caltarok> Hello. I am having trouble with my MoneyMangerEx Portable.
04:12:42 <Caltarok> My application starts, but it does not show on my desktop. Is there something I can do to right the problem?
04:38:38 <Caltarok> Guess none around this late. Will try back another time.
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15:35:43 <AlleyKat> any reason that GTD-Free isn't on PA.c? http://gtd-free.sourceforge.net/
15:39:44 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I think that simply no one has suggested it.
15:39:57 <AlleyKat> working on it :)
15:40:03 <TPFC-SYSTEM> In addition, it's natively portable: http://gtd-free.sourceforge.net/manuals.html#2.3
15:40:13 <AlleyKat> yup, noted that
15:41:07 <AlleyKat> can't find license however - it just states 'open source'
15:42:08 <TPFC-SYSTEM> The license is mentioned at the SourceForge project page.
15:42:10 <TPFC-SYSTEM> http://sourceforge.net/projects/gtd-free/
15:42:22 <TPFC-SYSTEM> GPL'd.
15:42:32 <AlleyKat> ahh thx.. nice
15:54:33 <AlleyKat> http://portableapps.com/node/28958 posted :>
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22:54:40 <asd_20> hello
22:54:55 <asd_20> anyone there
22:55:18 <sar3th> yeah
22:55:46 <asd_20> hey im trying to get netbeans portable to work and needs java
22:55:55 <asd_20> i got jportable but i dont understand the installation note
22:56:05 <asd_20> it needs to be on the same folder as the program to work?
22:56:17 <asd_20> cause i tried that and still cant find, still says java 1.6 required
22:56:50 <sar3th> ugh, java applications...that is a very difficult chapter :(
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22:57:18 <sar3th> hm, it depends on netbeans really...if the author made a proper launcher, it should be able to auto-detect jPortable
22:57:27 <asd_20> Installation Note:Unlike standard portable apps which are installed to X:\PortableApps\AppNamePortable, jPortable is an add-on and is meant to be installed to X:\PortableApps\CommonFiles\Java. Once installed there, an application like OpenOffice.org Portable installed to X:\PortableApps\OpenOfficePortable will automatically make use of it.
22:57:35 <asd_20> what is this??? ^
22:57:47 <kAlug> PAL has various ways to detect Java.
22:58:07 <sar3th> it means that jPortable should be installed into PortableApps\CommonFiles\Java and not in PortableApps\Java
22:58:33 <sar3th> kAlug: yes but does netbeans portable use PAL, or rather is it an offical app?
22:58:43 <asd_20> so i create a commonfiles folder?
22:58:47 <sar3th> maybe you know more than i do about this kAlug
22:59:04 <sar3th> asd_20, if you install it into the default folder that the installer suggests, it should be fine
22:59:06 <kAlug> IDK. Also, using PAL != official app.
22:59:25 <sar3th> luckily
23:00:12 <asd_20> mmm there is no default folder it just says portable apps
23:00:23 <asd_20> and when i click install it says cannot find folder spicify
23:00:34 <kAlug> If moving Java to CommonFiles doesn't work, can you check if there's an INI file in NetbeansPortable\App\AppInfo\Launcher and paste it (to e.g. http://kalug.net/p/)?
23:01:21 <sar3th> kAlug, i suggest you take over as i need to get back to coding
23:01:34 <kAlug> OK.
23:02:06 <asd_20> [Launch] ProgramExecutable=netbeans\bin\netbeans.exe CommandLineArguments=--userdir "%PAL:DataDir%\settings\.netbeans\6.9" -J-Dplugin.manager.install.global=true LaunchAppAfterSplash=true [Activate] Java=find
23:02:30 <asd_20> i installed java already in desktop
23:02:36 <asd_20> like netbeans
23:02:49 <asd_20> and still doesnt work
23:03:29 <asd_20> and most of the apps on my usb
23:03:33 <asd_20> i install on desktop first
23:03:41 <asd_20> then cut copy to usb
23:03:44 <asd_20> cut paste i mean
23:04:33 <kAlug> Create a folder named CommonFiles next to the NetbeansPortable folder and move jPortable to it (it'll be named CommonFiles\Java).
23:05:11 <asd_20> ok ill do that brb
23:06:03 <asd_20> nop still says needs java 1.6 or higher to open damnnn
23:06:31 <asd_20> Its CommonFiles
23:06:33 <asd_20> next to netbeans
23:06:40 <asd_20> inside CommonFiles is Java
23:06:46 <asd_20> inside Java is the jportable
23:07:20 <kAlug> There should be a bin folder inside CommonFiles\Java.
23:08:04 <asd_20> yes there is a folder called bin
23:08:05 <asd_20> inside
23:08:08 <asd_20> the java folder
23:08:15 <asd_20> and 3 other folders
23:08:24 <asd_20> data, lib and other
23:08:28 <kAlug> OK. Try running NetbeansPortable.exe now.
23:08:53 <asd_20> still cannot find java 1.6
23:09:13 <asd_20> augh i dont get it why isnt it working
23:09:19 <kAlug> Is CommonFiles inside the App folder?
23:10:03 <asd_20> ive got CommonFiles and NetbeansPortable inside a folder called portable apps in desktop
23:11:55 <kAlug> Hmm. Odd.
23:12:18 <asd_20> you want me to cut and paste the CommonFiles folder
23:12:24 <asd_20> to the netbeans folder
23:12:38 <asd_20> cause the 2 folder being together dont work
23:12:44 <kAlug> No. It was supposed to be working.
23:13:03 <kAlug> What app is giving you the error message? Netbeans or the launcher?
23:13:14 <asd_20> yea netbeans
23:13:22 <asd_20> i mean
23:13:25 <asd_20> it doesnt start
23:13:32 <asd_20> only the portableapps splash screen starts
23:13:41 <asd_20> then the error message that it needs java
23:14:07 <kAlug> OK. Change [Activate]:Java=find to [Activate]:Java=require in App\AppInfo\Launcher\NetbeansPortable.ini.
23:14:48 <asd_20> where do i change
23:14:51 <asd_20> D:
23:15:06 <asd_20> in the java folder
23:15:09 <asd_20> ?
23:15:36 <kAlug> NetbeansPortable\App\AppInfo\Launcher\NetbeansPortable.ini.
23:17:07 <asd_20> awww
23:17:10 <asd_20> still deosnt work
23:17:41 <kAlug> Hold on. I'll download Netbeans Portable and see if it works here.
23:17:50 <asd_20> ok
23:17:57 <asd_20> ty
23:18:45 <kAlug> Did you got it from http://portableapps.com/node/24381 ?
23:19:17 <asd_20> ah yes indeed i did
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23:35:53 <kAlug> asd_20: Got the same error.
23:38:07 <asd_20> wow thats crazy
23:38:11 <asd_20> it should be very easy
23:38:38 <asd_20> i think they should remake that explanation
23:38:52 <asd_20> of the installation note
23:40:42 <kAlug> I think I've found the problem: Netbeans requires the JDK. Only JRE is not enough.
23:46:15 <sar3th> Netbeans requires inded the JDK and not the JRE (jPortable) :/
23:46:30 <sar3th> i should have noticed
23:53:30 <asd_20> ooooooooh
23:53:34 <asd_20> i see
23:53:37 <kAlug> I remember someone has made OpenJDK portable.
23:54:14 <asd_20> how come
23:54:24 <asd_20> i mean it said it would work :(
23:54:40 <asd_20> and i cant find the jdk on the list of official portable apps
23:55:31 <kAlug> Not official indeed. Included in http://portableapps.com/node/27659
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23:56:18 <kAlug> I'll check if the OpenJDK used there is fully portable.
23:56:27 <asd_20> ty
23:56:30 <asd_20> im downloading
23:56:44 <asd_20> the bluej
23:57:14 <kAlug> You don't need.