IRC Log from 2011-08-24
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00:02:59 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is the developer of Armagetron Advanced Portable, Evince Portable & ZSoft Uninstaller Portable
00:04:22 <GordCaswell> Hey All, I can't be on for long, but does anyone know if there's a somewhat easy way to search the logs? I'm trying to find a quote from John, or maybe it was Chris, about phasing out CommonFiles, and keeping apps from installing in there.
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00:05:44 <kAlug> No. Fortunately, I had the idea of downloading all the logs to my machine. Gimme a sec.
00:06:00 <GordCaswell> Heh. that works.
00:06:51 <kAlug> Any idea of the month?
00:07:24 <GordCaswell> Nope, somewhat recently, though...I changed Ghostscript Portable as a result of it, hang on, and I'll check when I made that change
00:08:15 <GordCaswell> Looks like July, this year
00:08:19 <kAlug> 2011-06-17 23:55:36 -- "<JohnTHaller> I'm not sure yet. I may keep CommonFiles so we don't have to go back and fix apps. I was working on the updater to see how much work it is to get CommonFiles recognized."
00:09:05 <kAlug> 2011-06-14 00:05:02 "<ChrisMorgan> GordCaswell: at the moment, our plans are for CommonFiles to go down the gurgler."
00:09:23 <GordCaswell> Yeah, that's the one, thanks
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00:26:58 <gluxon> Anyone know why we're dropping CommonFiles?
00:28:28 <GordCaswell> That'd be a question for Chris/John, and neither appears to be active atm. Maybe John will answer later
00:30:55 <JohnTHaller|food> GordCaswell: We were debating phasing out common files but I'm not sure about it yet
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00:31:08 <GizmoBot> dbdii407 is Dave, Owner of the ScrapIRC Network.
00:31:41 <dbdii407> I guess that proves I haven't been in here for a while.
00:32:21 <JohnTHaller|food> I can't stay at the moment (friends over) but I will be back in a couple hours
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00:32:31 <GordCaswell> JohnTHaller|food: Thanks, until something has been set in stone, I'll keep Ghostscript where it is for now then.
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00:53:23 <gluxon> dbdii407: Might want to change that :P
00:53:36 <gluxon> And shouldn't you have voice?
00:53:36 <dbdii407> Already did. :)
00:53:44 <gluxon> :P
00:53:52 <gluxon> I think I'm still banned from GizmoBot >_<
00:54:02 <dbdii407> Yes, I should. However I was told I wouldn't be recieving it back.
00:54:18 <gluxon> Why? O_o
00:54:29 <gluxon> And by who?
00:54:40 <Gizmokid2005> PM you two.
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01:14:28 <kAlug> Yet another spam; same scheme as previous: http://portableapps.com/node/7403#comment-182346
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01:15:38 <kAlug> I suggest removing that account; it's the third time it does that.
01:19:04 <DannyMuniz> I agree...
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06:33:10 <Hypnotoad> Hey, any forum mods around?
06:35:31 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I think they're not active right now.
06:50:49 <TPFC-SYSTEM> The TPFC user database has been hacked. :'(
06:53:08 <TPFC-SYSTEM> User names, email addresses and password hashes of all ~11 000 users. :'( (Most are spambots, though.)
07:21:54 <Hypnotoad> D: That's not too fun. I wonder how many people's passwords resolve to the same hash though, if you found out the hash of a couple common passwords (password, pass, 12345, nothing etc.) then you'd probably get a fair few hits
07:23:53 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Well, most of these accounts have quite low privileges. For example, the first forum post requires moderator approval.
07:24:38 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I'm mostly worried about the around 100 accounts which have the privilege to directly edit our application database. :'(
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07:25:46 <Hypnotoad> Hmmmmm, supposedly they'd be relatively secure passwords and in theory safe from an attack
07:26:09 <Hypnotoad> ChrisMorgan: We've got a spammer in the forums, a fairly large one too
07:29:54 <Hypnotoad> User IDs: 185280, 185286, 185285, 185288
07:30:24 <ChrisMorgan> Hypnotoad: at the moment I don't seem to be able to connect to portableapps.com or quite a number of Rackspace servers. It's been happening occasionally in the past few weeks. Taking too long to connect.
07:31:27 <Hypnotoad> Aaaah, sounds like some fun issues
07:31:27 <ChrisMorgan> At times it's lasted for over half an hour.
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07:31:47 <TaffinFoxcroft> What do you reckon it could be?
07:31:49 <ChrisMorgan> I'll keep trying to connect, but it may be some time before I can deal with it.
07:32:53 <ChrisMorgan> It does seem to be specifically RackSpace servers and things on RackSpace servers (sometimes their cloud things, sometimes their CDN, sometimes their normal servers). I haven't been having issues with things on other host that I'm aware of.
07:34:26 <TaffinFoxcroft> So likely a bad connection on their end somewhere?
07:34:53 <TaffinFoxcroft> 'Cause my family's with Telstra, and the amount of time our DNS server's dropped connections...
07:35:02 <TaffinFoxcroft> Could always be the ISP
07:35:33 <ChrisMorgan> We are with TPG and have been most of this year, but it's only this month that it's been a problem.
07:37:03 <TaffinFoxcroft> TPG, jealous! My parents are pretty strict on not changing, and the slow speeds + small cap + outrageous fees make me quite infuriated. When did the CDN changeover happen?
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07:38:41 <DannyMuniz> Spam Alert: http://portableapps.com/node/9909#comment-182466
07:40:02 <DannyMuniz> here is the same post in other forum topics http://portableapps.com/node/27502#comment-182528 http://portableapps.com/node/24531#comment-182564
07:40:47 <DannyMuniz> this user should be band http://portableapps.com/user/185285
07:41:09 <TaffinFoxcroft> DannyMuniz: Yeah, there's a couple other accounts too but there's some connection issues so we can't get around to it yet. Don't fret though, we will do it :P
07:41:40 <DannyMuniz> np *_*
07:43:21 <DannyMuniz> oh man this person went nuts making the post all over...
07:44:05 <TaffinFoxcroft> Haha yeah, they were pretty thorough this time
07:45:18 <DannyMuniz> for sure man i just went in to check on my stuff like i always do and i see 3 new post but i just took a look at the rest of the forum and they did a number on the site this time
07:47:10 <DannyMuniz> this person has been a Member for
07:47:11 <DannyMuniz> 1 hour 41 min
07:48:23 <DannyMuniz> they realy have been a a bzb
07:48:56 <ChrisMorgan> Finally can access the site again. Blocked users, going to clear content now
07:49:12 <DannyMuniz> thank you!!!
07:49:21 <DannyMuniz> we need more admins in the site
07:49:55 <DannyMuniz> at list with the privilage of taking down spam and banning the spamers
07:53:32 <ChrisMorgan> OK, marked 338 comments as spam.
07:53:53 <DannyMuniz> damn and i know you have more to marks as spam
07:54:06 <DannyMuniz> at list i hope not....
07:54:42 <ChrisMorgan> Plus one node.
08:00:53 <DannyMuniz> First They Dance, Then They Kill!. a horror film?
08:06:17 <TaffinFoxcroft> Well Zombieland was marketed as a horror film for a bit, until they realised their mistake
08:06:59 <DannyMuniz> you know i am yet to see that movie
08:07:17 <TaffinFoxcroft> 'Tis funny, well worth the watch
08:07:42 <DannyMuniz> hmm ill see it next time
08:07:52 <DannyMuniz> it will be on my list to watch
08:12:22 <DannyMuniz> i need me a new computer like this one http://us.toshiba.com/computers/laptops/satellite/P750/P750-ST4NX2
08:21:27 <DannyMuniz> for just .99 cents more you get a 3d version http://us.toshiba.com/computers/laptops/satellite/P750/P755-3DV20
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08:29:01 <pa_7014> Hi I am working on a portable application that will compress portable apps recreate the launcher and when executed will extract the app to the host's temp directory from which in will run
08:29:49 <pa_7014> it will wait until the process closes than update the apps archive
08:30:37 <pa_7014> Question :) how do i sumbit my app
08:31:34 <TPFC-SYSTEM> By posting to this subforum: http://portableapps.com/forums/development/beta_testing
08:31:52 <pa_7014> Awesome thanks
08:32:03 * DannyMuniz will go to bed even if it's 4:30 am. latter guys
08:32:11 <TPFC-SYSTEM> pa_7014: You're welcome.
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08:34:31 <pa_7014> One more question man is this a good idea for an app will it be used? I just started doing this to my apps and for practice I decided to automate the process so others can do the same
08:35:25 <pa_7014> lame question but ...
08:36:23 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I think it is a good idea, especially if you use a read-only media...
08:36:39 <TPFC-SYSTEM> ...or if the write speed of the media is really awkward.
08:38:38 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Opera Portable ( http://www.kejut.com/operaportable ) uses that technique.
08:38:41 <pa_7014> excatly my thoughts not for everyone but running apps off the host is ususally faster and in some cases negligible
08:40:27 <pa_7014> Im going to be using third party freeware packaged in the licenses say that I can redistribute as long as I keep a copy of the license is this acceptable?
08:41:35 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I think the license must allow modifications as well.
08:41:53 <TPFC-SYSTEM> MMost open source licenses (like GPL and BSD) allow that.
08:42:24 <TPFC-SYSTEM> In case of closed-source applications, you'll need to read the license and probably ask for permission.
08:45:59 <pa_7014> This is my first time creating such a program I'm trying to do it right. Free and useful. How long will it take if its like and approved to be posted in say the portable appdirectory?
08:46:37 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I'm afraid it will take a long time. :(
08:46:45 <pa_7014> I thou8ght so
08:47:32 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Here you can see the rate new official applications are added: http://portableapps.com/news/new
08:48:58 <pa_7014> Thanks if I can get pass the legal issues I will have the gui and everything but together in no time
08:49:26 <pa_7014> What do you think of PortableAppShrinker?
08:49:35 <pa_7014> Good name?
08:50:28 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I think it's OK.
08:51:09 <pa_7014> alright man thanks for all the help later
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08:59:54 <Ravi> Hi there
09:00:11 <Ravi> I just installed the portableapps in my flash drive
09:00:32 <Ravi> but if I remove the drive....it is expecting to reinstall again
09:01:05 <Ravi> And I see a delivered u3 menu
09:01:17 <Ravi> any help is greatly appriciated
09:02:06 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Do you have an U3 drive?
09:03:23 <Ravi> yes I do
09:05:15 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Hmm, maybe U3 Launchpad Removal Tool will help.
09:05:17 <TPFC-SYSTEM> http://u3.sandisk.com/launchpadremoval.htm
09:06:42 <Ravi> just to be sure...is the idea is...remove the LaunchU3.exe and use PortableApps.com_Platform_Setup_2.0_Pre-Release_3.exe
09:07:21 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Yes. First remove the U3 Launchpad, then reinstall PortableApps.com Platform.
09:07:37 <Ravi> tx
09:11:52 <Ravi> Uninstalling....
09:14:12 <Ravi> Installing portable apps
09:16:25 <Ravi> great...now u3 is removed....
09:16:39 <Ravi> but, when I disconnect it from USB...and reconnect it...
09:16:58 <Ravi> it is not automatically recognized....instead
09:17:06 <Ravi> it is expecting me to run start.exe....
09:17:18 <Ravi> is there a way to make it automatic?
09:18:32 <TPFC-SYSTEM> No. Microsoft disabled AutoPlay on USB drives with a security update some months ago. :(
09:19:27 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Some third-party applications implement autorun, but they must be locally installed.
09:21:33 <Ravi> thank you, for your help...
09:21:53 <Ravi> I am very impressed with the u3 applications...brilliant
09:22:08 <TPFC-SYSTEM> You're welcome.
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09:40:18 <pa_5353> Anyone have issues with FIrefox Portable v6 opening up without the firefoxportable.exe running? That is, when Firefox asked me to restart after adding a plugin, it opened firefox.exe.
09:41:48 <pa_5353> Extension, not a plugin.
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10:38:48 <matthias_PApps> hello. there is an issue with the VVVPortable Site "http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/virtual_volumes_view_portable". After click on "Details" (below DOWNLOAD button) the wrong site is linked. instead of "http://portableapps.com/apps/internet/virtual_volumes_view_portable#download_details"; it should be "http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/virtual_volumes_view_portable#download_details"
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20:45:49 <GizmoBot> ptmb knows a lot about HTML+CSS, besides that, he is just a lunatic...
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20:56:11 <GizmoBot> ptmb knows a lot about HTML+CSS, besides that, he is just a lunatic...
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22:36:25 <pa_1161> Hi there
22:37:35 <pa_1161> I m interested to know if portable apps applications are bootable through USB stick on a tv directly?
22:38:40 <kAlug> pa_1161: No.
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