IRC Log from 2011-09-03
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00:38:48 <JAWS> hello kAlug and gluxon! :) sorry I haven't been on i a long while school started back up and i got caught up ;)
00:39:30 <kAlug> HAI "JAWS"
00:39:40 <JAWS> hi
00:41:18 <JAWS> kAlug: how are things going?! ;)
00:42:11 <kAlug> Great. Now an official developer (sort of).
00:42:53 <JAWS> cool! moving up! :)
00:42:56 <gluxon> JAWS: Hey :)
00:43:12 <JAWS> gluxon: hey ;)
00:43:21 <gluxon> kAlug: Congrats :)
00:43:41 <gluxon> I've been sick for the last two days. I can't imagine the amount of homework bundled up for me on Tuesday >_<
00:43:59 <JAWS> ;p homework
00:44:04 <gluxon> *Monday ..whoops
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00:44:26 <gluxon> JAWS: I absolutely hate homework. I'd much rather have an extra 3 hours of school :P
00:44:35 <JAWS> yes
00:44:51 <JAWS> college?
00:45:24 <gluxon> High school...
00:45:29 <JAWS> or high school?
00:45:33 <JAWS> oh me too
00:45:46 <kAlug> Hey, what do you think about this app? http://quest-app.appspot.com/
00:45:51 <JAWS> fun stuff
00:46:09 <kAlug> +1. Plus a technical course on Computing.
00:46:10 <gluxon> JAWS: What grade?
00:46:36 <JAWS> junior
00:46:40 <gluxon> O_o
00:47:00 <JAWS> O_o
00:47:19 <gluxon> You don't have a Computer Science class at your High School, do you?
00:47:37 <JAWS> don't think ;)
00:47:41 <gluxon> I figured :P
00:47:51 <JAWS> what grade are you?
00:47:56 <gluxon> Freshman.
00:48:07 <JAWS> really?
00:48:23 <JAWS> how old?
00:48:24 <gluxon> Relatively, Absolutely :P
00:48:40 <gluxon> 14..
00:48:41 <JAWS> what?
00:48:48 <gluxon> Now, I need to check out the app kAlug posted :P
00:48:55 <JAWS> oh nevermind
00:49:04 <JAWS> it looks pretty cool
00:50:07 <kAlug> gluxon: What's the standard procedure when a base app has been updated?
00:51:47 <gluxon> kAlug: Re-evaluating its setting locations? Updating version number?
00:52:00 <gluxon> Am I missing something, because that seems like an easy question...
00:52:29 <kAlug> And then packing and sending it to John?
00:52:39 <gluxon> Yep.
00:53:42 <gluxon> Occasionally, developers skip the re-evaluation process, and assume new versions of the base app have not changed its setting locations (or added new ones).
00:55:09 <kAlug> Hmm... thanks.
00:55:40 <gluxon> As developers, we have a higher chance of reply from John :D
01:05:04 <kAlug> What would be a good language to start developing a simple cross-platform app?
01:05:50 <JAWS> gluxon: so you are a freshman in high school and a developer?
01:06:10 <gluxon> JAWS: Si.
01:06:31 <JAWS> and I assume your taking Spanish? ;)
01:06:39 <gluxon> Spanish.. III :D
01:06:51 <JAWS> as a Freshman?
01:07:02 <gluxon> kAlug: Considering your efficiency with the PortableApps.com Launcher and NSIS, I would recommend C++ wxWidgets.
01:07:31 <JAWS> did you continue it from 7th grade or...?
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01:07:44 <gluxon> Continued from 8th grade of course..
01:08:12 <gluxon> The wxWidgets library has been used to program many popular apps like FileZilla, Audacity and other. Those are the only two I can name off the top of my head though :P
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01:08:48 <JAWS> is your high school 9-12 grade?
01:09:11 <gluxon> JAWS: Yep.
01:09:30 <JAWS> I'm only in Latin III as a junior
01:10:14 <JAWS> and other Juniors in Spanish are in III...
01:10:17 <gluxon> kAlug: Java is also an option, but there obvious reasons for choosing C++ and wxWidgets over it.
01:10:23 <gluxon> JAWS: ... really? O_o
01:10:49 <JAWS> hmm
01:12:20 <JAWS> I like Latin
01:12:47 <gluxon> Latin got canceled in my school.
01:12:55 <JAWS> ...even though it's not really spoken
01:13:16 <JAWS> not enough signed up or what?
01:14:44 <kAlug> Hmm... reconsidering the working of the app, I realized it's just like my PA.c Web Tools, so... make it a web app in CoffeeScript!
01:15:31 <gluxon> Actually, it was due to the school budget. I was surprised to see a lot of people sad at the fact Latin was cut/canceled.
01:15:35 <JAWS> gluxon: are you in band?
01:15:40 <gluxon> Honestly, I expected partying.
01:15:50 <gluxon> Not band, but Orchestra :D
01:16:11 <kAlug> But I'll remember your advice for my final graduation work in 1yr.
01:16:57 <JAWS> Orchestra? so what instrument...
01:17:19 <JAWS> do you have like a separate band for marching or what not?
01:18:08 <JAWS> "like"... that was about most stupid way i could have worded that ;p
01:19:06 <gluxon> 1. Violin
01:19:08 <gluxon> 2. Yep
01:19:17 <gluxon> :P
01:20:18 <gluxon> What ticks me off is that the wouldn't let me in Computer Science H >_<
01:21:17 <gluxon> That class would have been an easy A :D
01:21:54 <JAWS> cool! to be in our band you have to be in marching and concert. I play trumpet
01:22:33 <JAWS> i can tell that it would be an easy A... that might be why they didnt let you in ;)
01:23:00 <JAWS> we don't have an orchestra
01:24:50 <gluxon> JAWS: That's absolutely horrible! >:o
01:24:52 <gluxon> :P
01:25:30 <JAWS> what the no orchestra part or why they didnt let you in?
01:27:07 <JAWS> if it was the "why they didnt let you in I meant because you are far ahead with computer knowledge than me
01:27:27 <JAWS> ...therefore it would be easy
01:28:08 <JAWS> if it is the orchestra... our school couldn't afford it, sadly ;p
01:28:21 <JAWS> ...most likely
01:29:07 <JAWS> gluxon: still there?
01:29:16 <gluxon> I was talking about the orchestra part :P
01:29:45 <JAWS> oh, ya we probably could afford it
01:30:37 <JAWS> our band has only 103 members, that's the most in 16 yrs
01:34:26 <JAWS> well, see you maybe tomorrow I'm going to go to bed now. Thanks everyone!
01:34:39 <kAlug> Gnight JAWS.
01:34:50 <gluxon> JAWS: Good night :)
01:34:56 <JAWS> Gnight everyone! ;)
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01:35:24 <kAlug> gluxon: What do you think about bundling NSIS with PAL or unbundling it from PAI?
01:36:06 <gluxon> What are the reasons?
01:36:19 <gluxon> For either?
01:37:09 <kAlug> Just a thought. There was some discussion on it ~2 months ago.
01:37:37 <kAlug> But then nothing happened.
01:39:17 <kAlug> Anyway, I finished working on both at that time :::.
01:47:38 <kAlug> It's a shame I'm unable to make Eclipse download new packages.
01:59:01 <gluxon> kAlug: Really? What's the problem?
01:59:40 <kAlug> "Network is down: JVM_Bind"
02:00:04 <kAlug> I haven't find any file in the Java install that could be related.
02:06:04 <gluxon> I've never encountered any problem like that :-/
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02:29:38 <Aerok> gluxon: What do you think about QTranslate?
02:30:00 <gluxon> It's a pretty nice app :P
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18:46:42 <pa_5286> hey
18:46:52 <pa_5286> i'm trying to install google chrome portable on my thumb drive
18:46:57 <pa_5286> and it tries to download a temp file
18:47:08 <pa_5286> which fills up my poor overstuffed c:\ drive
18:47:12 <pa_5286> which doesn't work
18:47:23 <pa_5286> since there's no room to download the temp files to
18:49:26 <TPFC-SYSTEM> The Google Chrome Portable installer is an online installer.
18:49:53 <TPFC-SYSTEM> It's by design.
18:50:40 <TPFC-SYSTEM> It doesn't sound good if you don't have enough space to download the official Chrome installer to the C:\ drive. :(
18:50:57 <pa_5286> yeah well, this netbook has windows XP on it and little else
18:51:01 <pa_5286> windows takes up a LOT of space
18:51:36 <pa_5286> i was hoping portable apps would help alleviate the low disk space issues... lol apparently no go with chrome
18:52:56 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Well, most portable installers at PA.c are offline installers. Online installers are clearly marked with text below the download link.
18:53:31 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Quite ironic anyway. :D
18:53:35 <pa_5286> ok. well i've cleared up the low disk space issue for now, we'll see if that helps.
18:53:40 <pa_5286> by changing the pagefile
18:53:43 <pa_5286> size
18:54:20 <pa_5286> (another alternative is "installing" the portable apps on another computer/thumb drive & copying them)
18:58:40 <pa_5286> now the installer seems frozen
18:59:48 <pa_5286> no wait it's still going, just extremely slowly
19:00:39 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Hmm, maybe the C:\ drive limits speed as well. :(
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19:01:00 <pa_5286> maybe
19:01:04 <pa_5286> ok it's done.
19:01:09 <pa_5286> thanks for your support :)
19:01:23 <TPFC-SYSTEM> You're welcome. :)
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