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09:43:13 <Konsi> Is there somebody who can tell me how I can publish my Tool on portableapps.com?
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14:07:02 <Vaevictus> ahh cool. Greetings :D
14:09:12 <Vaevictus> yesterday i was working on portablizing star control 2 from the sc2.sf.net site... the game doesn't utilize the registry, and i was working on getting it through the portable generator piece
14:10:00 <Vaevictus> after i gave fixed a few things in appinfo and gave it an icon from somewhere else, it was able to make the wrapper, but still failed. it's my first one so i've got little experience debugging this
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14:13:34 <kAlug> Vaevictus: can you upload the INI file in App\AppInfo\Launcher to somewhere ( e.g. http://p.kalug.net/ )?
14:16:49 <Vaevictus> sure ...
14:17:00 <Vaevictus> wait ...
14:17:01 <Vaevictus> uh.
14:17:01 <Vaevictus> :d
14:17:08 <Vaevictus> there isn't one lol
14:17:32 <Vaevictus> just App/Appinfo/appinfo.ini
14:17:40 <Vaevictus> so that's probably the issue
14:17:59 <kAlug> Yep. Can you send that instead?
14:18:03 <Vaevictus> sure
14:18:08 <Vaevictus> it's probably wrong too
14:18:55 <Vaevictus> http://p.kalug.net/9
14:19:05 <Vaevictus> nice pastebin... did you write it?
14:19:56 <Vaevictus> oh , xan manning
14:20:01 <Vaevictus> :D
14:22:02 <kAlug> Nope. The original is at http://pzt.me/
14:26:45 <Vaevictus> i may have to install that sometime :D
14:26:52 <Vaevictus> anyway... any thoughts on appinfo.ini?
14:27:27 <kAlug> Working on it... the latest version of UQM is 0.7.0, right?
14:27:40 <Vaevictus> yeah... i was just doing a "mimic pc" install
14:27:57 <Vaevictus> the installer touches the registry only for install/uninstall stuff
14:28:10 <Vaevictus> i copied the dir to a new dir and uninstalled... and the new dir worked fine
14:28:40 <Vaevictus> should i change App/AppName to UQM ?
14:28:45 <Vaevictus> er ... App/UQM ?
14:29:10 <Vaevictus> also, is there a good way to extract icons from exe?
14:32:34 <kAlug> Yep.
14:32:47 <kAlug> App\UQM. For icons, use IcoFX.
14:33:11 <kAlug> http://portableapps.com/apps/graphics_pictures/icofx_portable
14:33:28 <Vaevictus> tyvm
14:33:37 <Vaevictus> ahh... nm
14:33:41 <Vaevictus> just found it in the source for uqm
14:34:17 <Vaevictus> are you familiar with uqm?
14:34:33 <kAlug> No.
14:35:14 <kAlug> OK, check this: http://p.kalug.net/3 (I've written some comments in there too)
14:35:23 <Vaevictus> it's a great game
14:35:48 <Vaevictus> has been for dang 18 years now
14:35:52 <Vaevictus> soon 19 :D
14:36:08 <Vaevictus> is now GPL'd
14:36:38 <Vaevictus> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Control_II
14:39:25 <Vaevictus> okay... that builds, and wants a Launcher/UQMPortable.ini file
14:40:44 <Vaevictus> seems like i'm missing a task i need to do
14:43:01 <kAlug> Yeo. The Launcher\UQMPortable.ini files tells the launcher what to do to make the app portable.
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14:43:52 <kAlug> There's an example of that file at http://portableapps.com/node/29045
14:45:31 <Vaevictus> is Launch the only section that's required?
14:47:15 <kAlug> Yes. But are the data files (players, scores, etc.) already in the Data directory?
14:48:31 <Vaevictus> i'd probably have to check that out
14:48:35 <Vaevictus> i.e. no
14:49:39 <Vaevictus> afaik it runs it all out of the main folder
14:50:22 <kAlug> You can use [FilesMove] to move files between App\UQM and Data.
14:50:57 <Vaevictus> oh crap
14:50:59 <Vaevictus> hmm
14:51:08 <Vaevictus> maybe it uses %appdata% after all
14:51:48 <kAlug> Then [DirectoriesMove]; something like AppData=%APPDATA%\UQM.
14:52:17 <Vaevictus> k ... lemme find it
14:52:55 <Vaevictus> on win7 it's appdata\roaming\uqm
14:53:57 <kAlug> Then it's the one I wrote.
14:55:37 <Vaevictus> killer ... should be close now
14:57:33 <Vaevictus> playing with commandline options
14:59:58 <Vaevictus> i need a string for App\UQM\content
15:00:18 <Vaevictus> CommandLineArguments=--contentdir="%PAL:AppDir%\UQM\Content"
15:00:23 <Vaevictus> ^-- i tried that to no avail
15:01:19 <kAlug> Try WorkingDirectory=%PAL:AppDir%\UQM
15:01:32 <Vaevictus> in Launch ?
15:02:21 <kAlug> Yep.
15:03:54 <Vaevictus> oooh
15:04:09 <Vaevictus> launched.... :D
15:04:13 <Vaevictus> now to test game saves
15:05:39 <Vaevictus> that worked!
15:07:17 <Vaevictus> now... i just zip it all up?
15:09:03 <Vaevictus> oh no, i've got yet another ini and exe to utilize :d
15:09:29 <kAlug> Just a new exe... the PortableApps.com Installer.
15:18:49 <Vaevictus> wierd... it can't open a nonexistant output file
15:19:27 <kAlug> Running out of space, maybe?
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15:19:55 <Vaevictus> 137gb free
15:20:47 <Vaevictus> Output: "c:\UQMPortable_0.7.0_Development_Test_1.paf.exe"
15:20:47 <Vaevictus> Can't open output file
15:20:48 <Vaevictus> Error - aborting creation process
15:21:04 <kAlug> Do you have permission to create files in C:\?
15:21:40 <Vaevictus> wtf. nope
15:21:43 <Vaevictus> i'm network admin
15:21:51 <Vaevictus> is that a new win7 "security feature" ?
15:21:58 <Vaevictus> can only create new folders
15:23:36 <kAlug> IDK. Move the folder where you're working on to somewhere else; you'll need to be able to create files on it's parent folder.
15:23:43 <Vaevictus> k
15:27:51 <Vaevictus> KILLER
15:27:56 <Vaevictus> all done
15:28:09 <Vaevictus> kAlug: thanks, couldn't have done it without you
15:28:21 <Vaevictus> any refinements i should make before going public?
15:29:38 <kAlug> I guess not. This is what the Development Test is for.
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22:10:29 <gluxon> kAlug: Hey! :)
22:10:51 <kAlug> gluxon: Aloh!
22:11:11 <gluxon> kAlug: Does modifying the value of %JAVA_HOME% really work?
22:11:38 <gluxon> I can see that it does from the screenshot, but it's a bit hard for me to believe.
22:11:45 <kAlug> It's what I'm doing since 2011-08-02.
22:12:39 <kAlug> The problem is, Firefox doesn't allow you to specify extra plugins.
22:15:44 <gluxon> And %JAVA_HOME% should be the solution to the Portable Java in browsers issue, right?
22:16:10 <kAlug> Chromium-based, yes.
22:16:53 <gluxon> Ah, so no solution for Firefox yet, right?
22:17:15 <kAlug> Right. Let me search their Bugzilla...
22:19:26 <gluxon> I bet an add-on would be able to make Firefox search for Java Portable.
22:19:35 <gluxon> Hm.. I wonder if our licensing with Mozilla allows us to include a PortableApps.com Integration add-on. :-/
22:21:37 <kAlug> Wow... "If Chrome’s taking more than 25 seconds to close, it will now deliberately crash itself."
22:22:22 <gluxon> kAlug: I heard about that a while back :P
22:22:54 <gluxon> I'm guessing Chrome's shutdown isn't as important as other browsers.
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22:24:20 <kAlug> No. But 25 seconds!
22:24:35 <luki-> hi, could you add a portable app for something like undeleting files? ;)
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22:26:16 <kAlug> gluxon: Do you know the status of the Piriform's apps?
22:29:36 <kAlug> luki-: It seems that we don't have any file recovery app yet (not even in development) :(
22:29:46 <kAlug> Can you suggest one?
22:30:30 <luki-> hm, no, but i can look at some tomorrow and tell you (but propably i'll forgot it ;P)
22:39:11 <luki-> gn
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