IRC Log from 2011-09-25

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00:07:09 <GordCaswell> much better - nevermind Zach, I found the command i needed at one of the xchatt tutorial sites
00:20:24 <ZachThibeau> sorry GordCaswell I was busy updating the c++ standards of PChat to c++11
00:20:43 <ZachThibeau> getting things optimized as well
00:21:14 <GordCaswell> no problem. While I waited, I went hunting myself, and figured it out. Optimization is indeed a good thing.
00:21:49 <ZachThibeau> I'm learning to use lambda's in my code
00:22:16 <GordCaswell> nice
00:22:32 <ZachThibeau> yeah new feature of c++11 standard
00:22:53 * GordCaswell goes to find out what that entails lol
00:23:10 <ZachThibeau> entails some rewrite of PChat code :P
00:23:19 <ZachThibeau> better organizes some code :P
00:23:34 <GordCaswell> i meant lambdas in general in c++
00:23:38 <GordCaswell> :)
00:24:17 <ZachThibeau> lol byuu of bsnes has been getting bsnes using c++11 infact up to date gcc is the only thing that will compile bsnes now until visual studio catches up
01:10:12 <gluxon|gone> What's C++11?
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01:15:53 <ZachThibeau> c++1 1 is the new c++ coding standard
01:16:50 <ZachThibeau> c++98 is what most people are still using but I'm gonna update PChat to use c++11 standard
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02:55:09 <gluxon> ZachT: Sweet :D
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08:17:56 <XhmikosR> ZachThibeau!
08:18:54 <XhmikosR> is any of the portableapps devs here?
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14:11:24 <kAlug> XhmikosR: Are you still there?
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16:37:01 <XhmikosR> kAlug: just got back for a few minutes
16:38:09 <kAlug> XhmikosR: You asked before for portable apps devs. How can I help you?
16:38:27 <XhmikosR> oh nice
16:38:49 <XhmikosR> first of all, I recompiled WinPenguins with the proper manifest and stuff
16:39:09 <XhmikosR> maybe you are interested http://code.google.com/p/winpenguins/
16:39:21 <XhmikosR> secondly, I managed to build lbreakout2 2.6.3
16:39:34 <XhmikosR> it works fine so far on my machines
16:39:50 <XhmikosR> here is the binary http://www.multiupload.com/P9FDSPU8IS
16:40:18 <XhmikosR> and lastly, I wanted to ask if there are any plans to pack MPC-HC
16:40:24 <XhmikosR> thats all for now :)
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16:45:10 <kAlug> MPC-HC is available (as a development test) at http://portableapps.com/node/15030 . Not sure if it's being actively developed though. It takes some time for apps to go official.
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16:46:10 <XhmikosR> my suggestion would be to try the ini approach for saving mpc-hc's prefs since it's cleaner
16:46:35 <XhmikosR> but it might be slower in some cases which shouldn't affect the portable app though
16:47:19 <XhmikosR> anyway, I'd really like to see mpc-hc as a portable app so if there is anything you want to ask come on #mpc-hc-dev
16:47:38 <XhmikosR> time to go for now, be back later
16:47:45 <gluxon> XhmikosR: Oh a different note, you should probably take down that WinPenguins Google Code page unless you plan to actively maintain that app.
16:47:59 <XhmikosR> well no
16:48:26 <XhmikosR> no one is forcing me to maintain anything
16:48:32 <XhmikosR> I just needed some changes
16:48:36 <gluxon> I think you misread my comment.
16:48:53 <XhmikosR> I didn't
16:49:14 <XhmikosR> I don't plan to maintain anything codewise, but I'm not gonna remove it
16:49:24 <kAlug> Interesting... it seems that WinPenguins 0.6 was never "officially" released: http://winpenguins.sourceforge.net/
16:49:43 <XhmikosR> well, 0.6 is the version PA has released
16:49:45 <gluxon> What I'm saying, is that you don't own the name WinPenguins, and the original developer or a successor might want to use that page.
16:49:49 <XhmikosR> that's where I took the source code from
16:49:59 <XhmikosR> so?
16:50:00 <gluxon> Since you are neither, it makes no sense for you to hog that page.
16:50:14 <XhmikosR> it's not how things work obviously
16:50:54 <XhmikosR> anyway, later
16:51:26 <gluxon> XhmikosR: You're ignoring the point.
16:51:48 <gluxon> kAlug: Wasn't 0.6 our own release? After PatrickPatience recompiled it with a cuter icon?
17:01:02 <kAlug> It seems to be. I wonder if these bugs are fixed: http://portableapps.com/node/11137
17:02:14 <kAlug> XhmikosR: Thanks for lbreakout2. I'll check it.
17:05:18 <gluxon> kAlug: No, the haven't been.
17:05:38 <gluxon> Development for WinPenguins dropped somewhere around 2002
17:08:42 <gluxon> XhmikosR: If you're still here, understand that you should not be creating a project page on anything unless you plan on developing it. Other people that actually plan on developing WinPenguins are going to want to use that page.
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17:24:45 <Simeon> hi all
17:26:26 <Simeon> @XhmikosR: THanks for the new compilation of LBreakout2!
17:26:37 <Simeon> now I can finally update it :)
17:36:12 <kAlug> Simeon, XhmikosR: It seems that the translations aren't included.
17:38:57 <Simeon> oh. Cant they be just copied over from 2.5?
17:39:26 <kAlug> Nope. They were updated.
17:39:55 <kAlug> I can try to build them.
17:42:07 <kAlug> Or... we can copy them from the Arch Linux package.
17:44:55 <Simeon> V2.5 is english only. I never knew there were languages!
17:45:35 <kAlug> Wow... the portable version is old!
17:45:44 <Simeon> Its so funny what happene in this thread: http://portableapps.com/node/29219
17:45:49 <Simeon> happens
17:50:19 <Simeon> yes. there was no real reason to update it.
17:50:31 <Simeon> or are languages included in a later 2.5 version?
17:52:05 <kAlug> German and French were added in the 2.6 betas.
17:52:51 <Simeon> but there was never a windows version unfortunately
17:52:59 <Simeon> and I was unable to compile it
17:53:29 <kAlug> Now I need to find were to put the locale files...
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18:08:01 <XhmikosR> back for a few
18:08:59 <XhmikosR> the WinPenguins distributed with PA has a timestamp of 2005
18:09:10 <XhmikosR> so it was definitely NOT recompiled
18:09:29 <XhmikosR> embeding a manifest might be the case
18:09:48 <XhmikosR> not sure if the timestamp should change but this seems to be the case for that exe
18:10:25 <XhmikosR> kAlug|Away: I didn't need the translations for lbreakout2
18:10:54 <XhmikosR> and it's quite annoying to build it under mingw so I'm not willing to do it again
18:11:08 <XhmikosR> if you release it and it works for all people I will rebuild it then
18:13:35 <XhmikosR> oh and I forgot to run strip on lbreakout2.exe
18:13:55 <XhmikosR> I ran it for the other dlls I built but missed that
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18:17:10 <XhmikosR> new pack with everything stripped hence the smaller size http://www.multiupload.com/4HCFJUO5UQ
18:23:16 <Simeon> Thanks.
18:23:35 <Simeon> I think its easiest to leave it as english only for now.
18:23:57 <XhmikosR> just release a test build and if it works then I'll try to recompile it
18:24:27 <XhmikosR> btw I haven't included libpng.dll since I didn't bother to look how to built it yet but it works
18:24:36 <XhmikosR> it's on my todo list to build that too
18:25:24 <Simeon> You could send your package to the guy who released the older versions on sourceforge; maybe he puts it up there for everyone to enjoy
18:25:47 <XhmikosR> it's easier this way for me :P
18:26:13 <XhmikosR> also I can't guarantee everything will work that is why I ask for a test release first to be safe
18:26:37 <XhmikosR> I know it works for me but that's not always the case
19:05:33 <XhmikosR> Simeon: after further investigation it appears that only 3 dlls are needed for the game to work
19:09:39 <XhmikosR> get it here http://xhmikosr.1f0.de/index.php?folder=dG9vbHMvbGJyZWFrb3V0Mg==
19:09:54 <XhmikosR> lbreakout2-2.6.3-win32-4.zip
19:15:39 <Simeon> Got it.
19:16:59 <XhmikosR> so it works for you too, right?
19:17:08 <XhmikosR> I tried everything I could and it works fine for me
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19:24:22 <Simeon> Havent tried it myself - Im on linux right now
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