IRC Log from 2011-10-19
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01:20:46 <bencc> how come irfanview download is from portableapps.com and the rest from sourceforge?
01:20:48 <bencc> http://portableapps.com/apps/graphics_pictures/irfanview_portable
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01:30:13 <phly95> I found a 3rd party Portable App with a Trojan
01:33:27 <phly95> It is right here: http://portableapps.com/node/13944
01:33:59 <phly95> It is a so called "Linux Launcher"
01:34:42 <phly95> hello? is anyone here?
01:35:41 <ZachThibeau> that is thirdparty and in no way affiliated with our project
01:36:22 <ZachThibeau> so best to report to the project author
01:36:25 <phly95> but this is a link on your site, can you please get rid of it?
01:36:27 <bencc> what about irfanview? how come the download is from portableapps.com and not from sourceforge?
01:37:21 <ZachThibeau> bencc: freeware that has no sourcecode or not licensed under the GNU GPL can not be hosted on sourceforge and thus must be hosted on portableapps.com with permission from the original author
01:38:16 <phly95> alright, I guess you can let the author infect a lot more computers
01:38:33 <bencc> ok
01:38:46 <ZachThibeau> phly95: chances are it's false positive, either way you should report your findings to the original author
01:38:51 <bencc> phly95: how did you find out about the trojan?
01:39:24 <ZachThibeau> even upload it to virus total as well which scans files with multiple scanners
01:39:25 <phly95> MS security Essentials, it barely has any false positives.
01:39:35 <ZachThibeau> it has plenty in my experience
01:40:06 <ZachThibeau> most scanners use heuristic scanners which is highly inaccurate since it uses generic database
01:40:52 <ZachThibeau> always be sure and upload to virus total and scan with multiple scanners there before crying wolf
01:41:00 <phly95> If it is a false positive fine, but I'll still stay away from that program, better safe than sorry, right?
01:41:15 <ZachThibeau> which is why I suggested uploading to virus total
01:41:59 <ZachThibeau> and since from what I've seen it's using languages like visual basic etc it's easy for virus scanners to incorrectly classify it as a virus
01:44:07 <phly95> this is the only Portable App I've seen a virus on, all the official and any other 3rd party Portable Apps went through fine.
01:45:04 <ZachThibeau> some of our apps sometimes raise flags with scanners but it's usually a false positive since these apps are packaged using clean systems (at least in my case) in a virtual environment
01:47:38 <phly95> Well, the installer itself was a virus so I don't think that it was by accident. It was detected before I even ran it.
01:48:53 <ZachThibeau> I'm uploading to virustotal now
01:49:29 <phly95> But maybe the author had an infected computer so it was automatically attached when he made the app, remember, you are not the Author so you don't know if thier PC was clean.
01:50:35 <ZachThibeau> same argument can be said about your own pc, could of been infected when you downloaded it, some virus can hide and even disable scanners, (not saying you are infected, just saying it's a possibility)
01:51:10 <ZachThibeau> anyways if virustotal show's it's infected I'll remove it, but if only 1 throws an infected and the others don't then I'll know it's a false positive
01:52:30 <phly95> weird, because that is one of the only viruses ever detected on my computer, if my computer was infected all my download would be considered infected
01:53:10 <ZachThibeau> well like I said it's a possibility but probably unlikely from what you described to me
01:53:42 <ZachThibeau> but my experience with security essentials isn't good
01:54:22 <phly95> so, what were the results from virustotal?
01:54:34 <ZachThibeau> will take sometime
01:54:56 <ZachThibeau> my network is a little slow at the moment
01:56:27 <phly95> that's alright, some people haven't gotten out of dialup
01:56:48 <ZachThibeau> I'm not on dialup
01:56:58 <ZachThibeau> heavens I couldn't live with myself if I had dialup xD
01:57:35 <ZachThibeau> anyways it seems virustotal is having a high server workload and not my end, just got a message on their site about that
01:57:47 <ZachThibeau> jotti has a similar service, I'll upload there
01:58:20 <ZachThibeau> I'll scan locally in my vm too
01:59:16 <ZachThibeau> security essential is showing a result but avg isn't showing anything at all
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02:03:04 <phly95> sorry I left, can you tell me if the online scan detected anything
02:03:08 <phly95> ?
02:03:43 <ZachThibeau> uploading now
02:04:07 <ZachThibeau> I got the security essentials thing you got but avg showing no infection in my vm
02:04:18 <ZachThibeau> and it's uploading to jotti now
02:04:23 <ZachThibeau> should take a few moments
02:06:07 <ZachThibeau> by the looks of it initially it's a false positive, just packed by an exe compressor, and that's known to throw false positives all the time
02:06:26 <ZachThibeau> here's the scan result page http://virusscan.jotti.org/en/scanresult/7ceea4951a60f5929333acdac6c66475acd5b3f6
02:06:47 <ZachThibeau> may take a little while for each scanner to scan so just wait
02:06:55 <ZachThibeau> avast show nothing
02:07:09 <ZachThibeau> F-PROT and Fsecure found nothing
02:07:38 <ZachThibeau> so far for say it's infected while the majority say it's clean
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02:08:11 <ZachThibeau> majority rules
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02:12:52 <ZachThibeau> phly95: hi there, scans show it's clean
02:13:49 <ZachThibeau> only 6 out of 20 reported an infection while the rest found nothing
02:13:51 <phly95> ok, that's good, I'd still not use the program but at least it's likely clean
02:14:25 <ZachThibeau> the issue is that the files inside the installer are packed with an exe compressor and that's sets off scanners as a result
02:14:38 <ZachThibeau> happens to us from time to time
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02:20:02 <phly95_> I'll send it to MS to be dissected by MS and if they see it as a False Positive, then the app can stay. :)
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02:21:28 <ZachThibeau> I go by majority ruling, I'm not bound by a single choice, of course then again I'm not bound by windows either
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02:21:33 <ZachThibeau> hey DannyMuniz
02:21:42 <DannyMuniz> hey
02:22:00 <ZachThibeau> what's up?
02:22:03 <ZachThibeau> other than the sky
02:22:26 <DannyMuniz> lol not much just checking some stuff
02:22:28 <ZachThibeau> or the ceiling if you are indoors
02:24:00 <ZachThibeau> brb kernel update demands that I reboot archlinux
02:24:12 <DannyMuniz> k
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02:27:30 <ZachThibeau> back
02:27:50 <ZachThibeau> I love my irc bouncer, keeps me longed in even when I reboot :D
02:27:59 <DannyMuniz> i have to update one of my apps
02:28:06 <DannyMuniz> lol
02:29:01 <ZachThibeau> now to push some changes that I made to PChat into my mercurial repository
02:29:47 <DannyMuniz> i hope they are good changes cause i use it
02:29:50 <DannyMuniz> XD
02:30:23 <ZachThibeau> well I'm down to a final issue I'm trying to fix
02:30:26 <ZachThibeau> crash on exit
02:30:39 <DannyMuniz> ah...
02:30:50 <ZachThibeau> 1.4.2 was flawed, crashing everywhere for everyone which is why I didn't release it as a portable app just yet
02:31:28 <DannyMuniz> I see
02:33:29 <ZachThibeau> one thing I love about archlinux, it's one of the few distro's that use the latest bleeding edge software releases where other linux distro's use a stable release for so long before they are willing to update
02:34:01 <DannyMuniz> ah that sounds good
02:39:29 <DannyMuniz> i just use windows as my default OS but i like to use Ubuntu
02:42:49 <phly95_> The only reason I want the Linux launcher is so I have a virtual PC which I have admin right to (meaning I can play Steam on it)
02:43:04 <phly95_> (with Wine or crossover)
02:44:31 <phly95_> Although Linux is better than Windows, it's just that not as many apps are supported on it
02:45:22 <DannyMuniz> yeah that is a common problem but if you realy look around you can find a lot of apps
02:45:34 <DannyMuniz> but it is hard to hunt for them
02:46:23 <phly95_> with crossover, you can get almost all windows apps though but I don't wanna spend money upgrading to the newest version.
02:46:58 <DannyMuniz> i wish wine would works as good as crosover
02:47:00 <phly95_> At least Wine works fine
02:47:20 <phly95_> for some apps
02:48:59 <phly95_> but codeweavers works harder because they know they are getting a cash reward in the end.
02:49:13 <phly95_> That is the reason why
02:50:39 <phly95_> Although many other services like portable apps do a great job at their job, Portable apps is awesome.
02:52:06 <DannyMuniz> hey we try to do our best to bring just about any app to the user (s) anywhere XD
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03:39:38 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is the developer of Armagetron Advanced Portable, Evince Portable & ZSoft Uninstaller Portable
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03:42:26 <GordCaswell> For the logs: if that user comes back asking about the linux launcher: that thread is quite old, they should try this OS launcher app: http://portableapps.com/node/21307
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04:14:15 <DannyMuniz> a quick question for you guys. Do any of you use NevitiumPortable http://portableapps.com/node/28465
05:09:16 * DannyMuniz has to take dog for his lat walk of the night, BRB
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06:14:39 <GizmoBot> agdurrette is awesome! nuff said.
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08:23:33 <pa_6773> Hi, I've got a problem with "Portable App Directory", it won't download files larger than a few MB.
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13:17:29 <pa_6744> Is there any way to make the portableapps menu stay always on top?
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14:13:50 <pa_1136> How can i install an application U3p with your installer
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15:40:52 <Schobi-156> After Update to the latest Release I get the follwiing message after starting Portable.Apps: "The PortableApps.com Updater must be run from the PortableApps.com Platform. It will not function properly when run directly." But I did run the Updater from the PortableApps.com Platform. So why do I get this message?
15:49:17 <Schobi-156> help!
15:49:18 <GizmoBot> Schobi-156: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
15:49:42 <Schobi-156> After Update to the latest Release I get the follwiing message after starting Portable.Apps: "The PortableApps.com Updater must be run from the PortableApps.com Platform. It will not function properly when run directly." But I did run the Updater from the PortableApps.com Platform. So why do I get this message?
15:52:02 <benedikt93> Schobi-156, it seems that this is a known bug and will be fixed today: http://portableapps.com/node/28593
15:53:51 <Schobi-156> Thank you for this fast answer. Bye
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