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01:20:04 <GizmoBot> agdurrette is awesome! nuff said.
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05:27:22 <DADSGETNDOWN_> Hi there, anyone familiar with Moster 2 ? if so, what about it running SUPER slow ? I went to the Nooskewl website and chat.
05:27:36 <DADSGETNDOWN_> er Monster 2 :)
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07:49:14 <pa_7660> How to update opera portable to 11.52?
07:49:53 <pa_7660> Or will a new portable be necessary?
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11:01:37 <pa_5611> Hi
11:02:20 <pa_5611> Hi
11:03:04 <pa_5611> no anybody?
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16:01:24 <DADSGETNDOWN_> Hi there, anyone familiar with Monster 2 ? if so, what about it running SUPER slow ? I went to the Nooskewl website and chat
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16:15:53 <benedikt93> DADSGETNDOWN, this might be related to a slow USB drive (the speed when accessing large files doesn't count a lot for this, it's also about small randomly distributed accesses). You may try running it from a HDD. (disclaimer: I'm only a user, too and also not familiar with Monster 2)
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16:26:58 <DADSGETNDOWN_> Yep it's running from a folder on my hdd and it takes about 2 hours to get to the cell where you first gain control
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16:43:03 <GizmoBot> D_D is agdurrette, most likely he is on minecraft.
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17:41:46 <pa_9778> help!
17:41:47 <GizmoBot> pa_9778: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
17:42:33 <pa_9778> When I try to load portable apps, I get an nsis installer error that says: NSIS cannot launch installer
17:43:24 <pa_9778> anyone there?
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17:50:57 <techfreak243> hey all
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19:58:58 <GizmoBot> agdurrette is awesome! nuff said.
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22:25:02 <kAlug> hey ChrisMorgan
22:25:43 <ChrisMorgan> Greentings.
22:27:24 <kAlug> Could you recommend some Python GUI toolkit with a designer, besides PyQt/PySide?
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22:46:05 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is the developer of Armagetron Advanced Portable, Evince Portable & ZSoft Uninstaller Portable
22:51:15 <gluxon> kAlug: Any reason why it has to be Python?
22:52:05 <kAlug> Because I'm programming in Python. Anyway, do you have any other suggestions? I can consider using other languages.
22:53:30 <gluxon> kAlug: Unfortunately no.
22:53:48 <gluxon> I can recommend wxWidgets, but I'm assuming you've already tried it.
22:54:00 <gluxon> http://wiki.wxwidgets.org/WxWidgets_Compared_To_Other_Toolkits
22:54:20 <gluxon> In the link above, you'll find a list of other GUI toolkits available.
22:54:45 <kAlug> I'm using it, but it seems that there is no free designer that supports wxWizard.
22:56:28 <ChrisMorgan> kAlug: why not PyQt4/PySide?
22:57:30 <ChrisMorgan> I've also used wxPython somewhat and pygtk a bit; PySide is much more pythonic (and in my opinion is a better cross-platform toolkit anyway) than the others.
22:58:11 <gluxon> Why is that? :P
22:58:40 <kAlug> I want to try something different, with Qt as last resource. And I wanted something lightweight (the project should weight <5MiB once installed).
22:59:03 <kAlug> And I'm not interested on cross-platform ATM.
23:00:37 <ChrisMorgan> kAlug: well, you're not likely to manage it with Qt, GTK+ or wxWidgets.
23:01:35 <ChrisMorgan> Python+PyQt4 can get down to about 8MB with the normal things.
23:02:00 <ChrisMorgan> wxPython and pygtk are similar.
23:02:29 <ChrisMorgan> I think wxPython at least is actually a bit larger than PyQt4 when they're both compressed optimally. Not sure about pygtk
23:03:33 <kAlug> What about... umm... Tkinter?
23:04:14 <ChrisMorgan> Do you want it to look even vaguely pretty?
23:04:35 <ChrisMorgan> Or to rephrase it, do you care if it's *really* ugly?
23:05:22 <ChrisMorgan> Tkinter's API was designed a long time ago and isn't very pythonic any more, either.
23:05:23 <gluxon> PyQt4/PySide is ugly on Windows :-/
23:05:35 <ChrisMorgan> gluxon: not mostly.
23:05:59 <ChrisMorgan> kAlug: got it! Use IronPython + WPF ;-)
23:06:00 <gluxon> It doesn't seem to use the Aero Interface properly.
23:06:32 <kAlug> Not portable.
23:07:03 <gluxon> I don't think the other toolkits are either..
23:07:39 <kAlug> IronPython and WPF -> .NET
23:07:59 <ChrisMorgan> Of course. That's why I suggested it :D
23:08:11 <ChrisMorgan> kAlug: what for, anyway?
23:10:29 <kAlug> A couple tools for Chromium Portable: a ChromiumPortable.ini settings manager (makes sense when you have two different launchers); a tool to add a no-tracking profile (or replace the default one); and another to download and install Google Chrome additions.
23:11:00 <kAlug> ChrisMorgan: http://pastebin.com/z9UafQD9 (line 51): do you have a better name than "Separator"?
23:11:18 <kAlug> And Type=ReplaceAll/Common?
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23:14:11 <GizmoBot> agdurrette is awesome! nuff said.
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23:18:02 <ChrisMorgan> kAlug: can't deal with it now, sorry; just about to leave for Uni.
23:18:46 <kAlug> Allright; when you come back, tell me what we're going to replace in there.
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23:46:08 <Pyromaniac> hello?
23:46:45 <sar3th> hi Pyromaniac
23:46:52 <Pyromaniac> Does anyone know how to have PAL handle environmental variables in protected mode
23:47:06 <sar3th> protected mode?
23:47:35 <Pyromaniac> Because in the %LocalAppData% is in AppData\LocalLow in Vista
23:47:48 <Pyromaniac> but NSIS doesn't recognize this
23:47:52 <Pyromaniac> for Google Earth
23:48:21 <Pyromaniac> *correction: %LocalAppData% is AppData\Local in Vista/7
23:48:38 <Pyromaniac> I need it to be AppData\LocalLow
23:49:19 <Pyromaniac> http://forums.winamp.com/showthread.php?t=319693
23:49:59 <Pyromaniac> that link above talks a little about a similar problem
23:51:10 <Pyromaniac> Any ideas sar3th?
23:51:50 <sar3th> not really, apart from talking to the developer of PAL, namely ChrisMorgan and kAlug
23:52:57 <Pyromaniac> wish kAlug|Away came back
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