IRC Log from 2011-10-25
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01:28:42 <pa_2718> help
01:28:43 <GizmoBot> pa_2718: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
01:28:56 <pa_2718> pls hel p
01:29:58 <pa_2718> the platform Pre Release makes my drive icon to dissapear
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01:30:44 <pa_2718> only the partition in which i install the platform on is fine with portable apps drive icon
01:31:31 <pa_2718> the rest of the partition, the drive icon all change to ie icon
01:32:14 <gluxon> pa_2718: Give me a minute please, I'm reading your problem :)
01:32:52 <gluxon> pa_2718: I don't think that was caused by the PortableApps.com Platform.
01:33:04 <gluxon> Every folder is the IE icon, right?
01:33:27 <pa_2718> my hd is partition to c d e f g h
01:34:04 <gluxon> What do you mean by that?
01:34:28 <pa_2718> i install platform into d and the d drive icon has change to portableapps icon while the rest change to missing icon
01:34:46 <pa_2718> yes, IE icon
01:35:42 <gluxon> And you want the drive icon to change to the PortableApps.com flash drive, but not the rest to "missing icons", correct?
01:36:02 <gluxon> Just so we're on the same terms, by IE, you mean Internet Explorer right?
01:36:35 <pa_2718> yes
01:37:25 <pa_2718> windows default drive icon looks like a hard drive, and IE icon looks like a big blue e
01:37:26 <gluxon> All folder icons, or just the Documents, Pictures, Music, Videos, and PortableApps folders?
01:37:40 <gluxon> So, do you have a missing icon, or an IE icon?
01:38:01 <pa_2718> IE icon on all drive except D
01:38:35 <gluxon> What operating system of are you runnnig, XP, Vista, or 7?
01:39:06 <pa_2718> D is now with portable apps icon, looks like a thumbdrive red color if i recall correctly
01:39:13 <gluxon> Yep :)
01:39:14 <pa_2718> XP PRO
01:39:26 <gluxon> And you want to change the other drive icons back to what they were before, right?
01:39:51 <pa_2718> yes, i think i can do that
01:39:59 <gluxon> Okay, open up any of the drives.
01:40:04 <gluxon> Except for D
01:40:10 <pa_2718> but just feel i should report this as a bug
01:40:13 <gluxon> Well, any with the IE icon problem.
01:40:46 <gluxon> pa_2718: I don't think this is a bug in the platform. The install doesn't touch any of the other drives.
01:41:15 <gluxon> But just let me confirm something, do you have a Autorun.inf file in any of the drives that were changed to the IE icon?
01:41:48 <pa_2718> but it does touch on the drive i install into, maybe this has affacted other drives too, just maybe
01:42:34 <gluxon> pa_2718: Well, let me explain why that might not be it.
01:43:14 <gluxon> pa_2718: There's a file called "Autorun.inf" placed in the root of all drives.
01:43:20 <pa_2718> autorun.inf ? Ya, i create an autorun.inf on all drives root on purpose in order to protect from autorun virus
01:43:27 <gluxon> Ah. :)
01:43:30 <gluxon> There's your problem.
01:44:07 <gluxon> The autorun.inf file you placed in your drives are basically saying "this drive should have the IE icon"
01:44:54 <gluxon> I actually recommend deleting them.
01:45:11 <gluxon> Since placing an Autorun.inf file in all your drives doesn't really protect it from autorun viruses.
01:45:33 <gluxon> The virus can simply delete the file in the same way you did and replace it with its own.
01:45:57 <pa_2718> it does in the old days, not autorun virus is getting smart to overwrite my autorun even i write protect it
01:46:11 <pa_2718> *now
01:46:24 <gluxon> pa_2718: More modern viruses are going to be smart enough to delete it.
01:46:31 <gluxon> But you want to leave them that's fine.
01:46:32 <gluxon> :)
01:46:34 <pa_2718> ya
01:46:55 <gluxon> But would you like to delete the section of the Autorun.inf that defines what the drive icon will be?
01:47:13 <gluxon> I'll guide you through this, but you'll have to do it for all the drives you placed the Autorun.inf on.
01:47:25 <pa_2718> guess i have to leave with it, just looks ugly as a drive should looks like a drive
01:47:57 <gluxon> pa_2718: It's actually really simple. All that has to be done is to delete 1 line in your Autorun.inf's.
01:48:17 <pa_2718> u mean the autorun.inf that portableapps make?
01:48:32 <gluxon> No. The ones that you placed on all your drives.
01:48:38 <pa_2718> ok, lets do it
01:48:42 <gluxon> Sweet :)
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01:48:51 <gluxon> Okay, go into any of your drives except for D: of course.
01:48:57 <gluxon> And open up the Autorun.inf file.
01:49:10 <pa_2718> but the autorun.inf i create for all drive is blank inside
01:49:19 <gluxon> ... really?
01:49:20 <pa_2718> ok, u mean add a line?
01:49:56 <gluxon> pa_2718: Let's try adding the drive icon.
01:50:14 <gluxon> I'm not sure why Windows XP is setting IE as the default.
01:50:18 <gluxon> For a blank file.
01:50:43 <gluxon> Okay, open up the Autorun.inf file and add these lines.
01:50:49 <gluxon> [Autorun]
01:51:00 <pa_2718> as i know its blank when i create it, but after i install platform, i didn;t check inside, so i am not sure
01:51:41 <gluxon> ICON=C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM\SHELL32.DLL,8
01:51:46 <pa_2718> the pc is at home, now i am in my cybercafe, so i need to go home and check
01:52:00 <gluxon> Oh, the computer isn't in front of you?
01:52:05 <pa_2718> ya
01:52:11 <gluxon> Okay, go home and check. If it's blank, add those two lines.
01:52:16 <pa_2718> so i am not sure if its blank
01:52:22 <pa_2718> ok
01:52:25 <gluxon> If it's not blank, delete the line that starts with "ICON="
01:52:33 <pa_2718> if it got stuffs inside, what i do?
01:52:44 <pa_2718> ok, cool
01:53:10 <gluxon> pa_2718: If that doesn't work out, start a support topic in the forum. :)
01:53:31 <pa_2718> ok, thank you!
01:53:39 <gluxon> Glad to help :)
01:54:15 <pa_2718> gtg, gd bye my friend
01:54:44 <gluxon> Bye. Hope it works out :)
01:55:18 <pa_2718> :)
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04:17:31 <DannyMuniz> hey guys
04:18:21 <DannyMuniz> would it be possible to make DownThemAll a firefox addon in to a stand-alone app
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12:04:22 <Ali_> hello admin
12:10:44 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Ali_: If you want to ask a question, just ask it.
12:15:39 <Ali_> i m useing thurderbrid 7.0.1 ans i have 2 accounts. account showing on inbox but when i click to inbox both accounts email was not showing?
12:18:35 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Hmm, do you have "unified folders" or "all folders" visible in the folder pane?
12:19:00 <Ali_> yes
12:19:46 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Try to switch the mode by using the buttons next to the text.
12:19:48 <Ali_> i was try with "unified folder" option but no
12:22:57 <Ali_> independently showing but both are not show.
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12:23:20 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Ali_: Maybe this article will help: http://kb.mozillazine.org/New_messages_do_not_appear
12:23:23 <pa_0994> hi
12:23:28 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Hi pa_0994
12:23:40 <pa_0994> may i know what change in latest platform?
12:23:58 <pa_0994> has the drive icon issue resolved?
12:25:20 <TPFC-SYSTEM> List of all platform bugs (both existing and fixed) is here: http://portableapps.com/node/28593
12:26:12 <pa_0994> i got one hard disk and i partitioned it into c,d,e,f,g and i installed platform onto D, and the D drive icon changed to portablepps icon which looks like a thumbdrive in red color while the problem is all the other drives icon changed to IE icon
12:27:22 <pa_0994> drive icon doesn;t look like a drive, its using the IE icon now which looks like a big e
12:27:37 <pa_0994> in blue
12:27:47 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Oh, I saw your earlier discussion in the log.
12:27:48 <TPFC-SYSTEM> http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/irc/logs/?t=2011-10-25#T01-28-38
12:29:32 <pa_0994> cool, wheres gizmobot? He said is related to autorun.inf
12:30:15 <pa_0994> oops, it was gluxon
12:30:41 <TPFC-SYSTEM> He left this channel several hours ago.
12:31:16 <pa_0994> ok, any idea?
12:32:50 <TPFC-SYSTEM> As gluxon said, adding a couple of lines into each autorun.inf file should fix the problem.
12:33:27 <TPFC-SYSTEM> The lines are the following:
12:33:30 <TPFC-SYSTEM> [Autorun]
12:33:37 <pa_0994> ok u know i make the autorun.inf to prevent virus
12:33:44 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Icon=C:\Windows\System32\shell32.dll,8
12:34:12 <pa_0994> the problem is, my autorun.inf is a folder, not a file
12:34:41 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Oh, I see.
12:35:47 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Maybe it's a bug in Windows. I can imagine Windows going mad when it expects to find the correct icon from autorun.inf which turns out to be a folder...
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12:36:31 <pa_0994> make sense
12:37:03 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Is it important to you that autorun.inf stays a folder?
12:37:23 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I think the problem can't be worked aroud without removing those folders...
12:38:19 <pa_0994> well, maybe its not useful anymore to block modern autorun virus as virus maker has figure that out too
12:39:18 <pa_0994> but at least i can see teh folder there and feel save about it
12:39:22 <TPFC-SYSTEM> In this case, removing the autorun.inf folders (and maybe rebooting after that) should fix the problem.
12:39:47 <pa_0994> i will try it and see
12:40:45 <TPFC-SYSTEM> There are also other ways to block autorun, e.g. http://sourceforge.net/projects/noautorun/
12:41:21 <pa_0994> what i mean to say was if i see my autorun folder has suddently changed to file, then i know the virus has taken over
12:41:35 <pa_0994> cool, i will learn it
12:41:56 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I see.
12:43:00 <pa_0994> ah, i done that too with a registry edit, no more autorun for all drives
12:44:15 <pa_0994> the one u show me is a tiny program, looks nice from the pic, i will download it
12:45:12 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Glad that I helped. :)
12:46:20 <pa_0994> u did, the mini program is nice...why not add it to portableapps utility
12:47:24 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Because it's not portable, I think.
12:47:48 <TPFC-SYSTEM> It automatically starts with Windows by default, which requires a registry entry.
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12:59:28 <pa_0994> ic, ok no problem
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13:26:13 <Dany> hello
13:26:45 <Dany> anyone here?
13:27:18 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Dany: At least I am online.
13:27:36 <Dany> can i ask a simple question?
13:28:01 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Of course. :)
13:29:33 <Dany> why when i try to open the full package appairs the error" windows cannot access the specific device, path, or file. You may not have the appropriate permission to access the item"
13:29:52 <Dany> i'm admin on my laptop
13:29:52 <Dany> with full control...
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13:32:23 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Hm, according to Google no one has reported that problem in PortableApps.com earlier.
13:33:40 <Dany> and?
13:34:03 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I'm thinking about it.
13:34:19 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Does the problem appear with any other piece of software?
13:35:48 <Dany> no..
13:36:03 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Well, try this.
13:36:03 <Dany> i've installed a lot of different sw..
13:36:20 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Right-click the file and select Properties -> Security -> Advanced.
13:36:49 <Dany> ok..
13:37:08 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Check if the Administrators group has full control over the file.
13:37:09 <Dany> i'm the owner of the file
13:37:27 <Dany> yes full control
13:37:46 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Well, then I'm out of ideas. :(
13:37:56 <Dany> do you think is something for the domain?
13:38:19 <Dany> i'm in a windows domain... it's an business laptop
13:38:53 <TPFC-SYSTEM> No. File security settings should be the only reason why that message may show up.
13:38:57 <Dany> i've tried with the admin domain account but noting change...
13:39:12 <TPFC-SYSTEM> With full control, that message should never be shown.
13:39:15 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Should...
13:39:31 <Dany> yep... should..
13:39:53 <ZachThibeau> could be something simple as bad install or if it's an install a bad download
13:40:32 <Dany> i tried to download it 3 times....
13:41:34 <Dany> it's possibile maybe because i have a sw for cryptography all files...
13:43:08 <ZachThibeau> hmm to be honest all systems are different, and that could be the case
13:44:35 <Dany> there's not another type of file for using the portableapps? like a zip?
13:45:32 <ZachThibeau> in my opinion zip files aren't that trust worthy and our software are digitally signed
13:46:59 <Dany> ok..
13:47:03 <Dany> thanks guys
13:47:12 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Sure thing.
13:47:19 <ZachThibeau> all I can say is try it on another pc and see if the problem persists
13:47:38 <ZachThibeau> if it doesn't then it's probably something on the laptop
13:51:28 <Dany> yes i think so..
13:52:31 <ZachThibeau> if it's a software issue you could try adding exceptions if possible
14:14:39 <Dany> i think is something on the exe association file..
14:16:28 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Likely not, otherwise other software couldn't run either.
14:17:56 <ZachThibeau> indeed
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20:45:14 <JAWS> hi, nice job on the 4.2 release and just wanted to say I think Aquasnap has an update, no rush, just getting it out there I didnt see it on the forum
20:46:51 <JAWS> well, thanks again, nice work, and have a nice day everyone!
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