IRC Log from 2011-11-03

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00:29:32 <pa_3608> hello
00:30:18 <pa_3608> any1 there
00:31:04 <pa_3608> gzmoid kid
00:33:01 <pa_3608> Gizmokid2005
00:33:23 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3608: read the rules and the topic.
00:33:41 <pa_3608> i did
00:34:10 <pa_3608> sqlite3.exe
00:34:22 <Gizmokid2005> then ask your question, quit trying to ping people
00:34:37 <Gizmokid2005> until now you've given us nothing to answer. Ask your question and if someone can help you, they will.
00:34:45 <pa_3608> sqlite3.exe any idea what this is for
00:35:16 <Gizmokid2005> Many things, by many apps.
00:35:34 <pa_3608> firefox portable
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00:35:49 <pa_3608> downloaded clamwin
00:35:52 <Gizmokid2005> Yes, anything that is Mozilla based (Firefox, Thunderbird, Songbird) will all use it.
00:36:07 <Gizmokid2005> it's a valid executable that is used to interact with the database that those apps use.
00:36:46 <pa_3608> clamwin sentinel with clanwin quarantined it
00:36:59 <Gizmokid2005> Clamwin is notorious for false positives.
00:37:03 <pa_3608> the portable verson
00:37:31 <Gizmokid2005> doesn't matter what version
00:37:35 <Gizmokid2005> it's the same application
00:37:37 <pa_3608> what antivirus do u recoommend
00:37:40 <Gizmokid2005> with that same problem.
00:37:58 <Gizmokid2005> Clamwin is also not recommended to be used as a RTS (not the portable version at least)
00:38:06 <Gizmokid2005> I personally use Avira on my machines.
00:38:22 <pa_3608> avira needs xp sp3
00:38:35 <pa_3608> i tried udating
00:38:35 <Gizmokid2005> Anything less is past EOL.
00:38:49 <pa_3608> i had to back to sp2
00:38:49 <Gizmokid2005> and isn't recommended to be used.
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00:39:47 <pa_3608> avira 12 the free installs ask toolbar
00:40:00 <Gizmokid2005> so disable that in the installer
00:40:05 <Gizmokid2005> or remove it post-install
00:40:32 <sar3th> 1. every anti-virus solution is prone to errors and false positives
00:40:37 <pa_3608> when i updated to sp3 i had problems
00:40:44 <sar3th> 2. Gizmokid2005 stated his personal opinion about AVs
00:40:48 <pa_3608> bsod
00:40:56 <pa_3608> drivers etc
00:40:59 <sar3th> this is not avira support or general windows support etc
00:41:07 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3608: if you have those problems, then you need to figure them out. XP SP2 hasn't received critical security updates for a long time.
00:41:16 <Gizmokid2005> if you're running that, you may as well be not running an anti-virus.
00:41:38 <Gizmokid2005> an AV will prevent issues with most windows security issues that are fixed by later updates.
00:41:40 <pa_3608> i know i didnt do a critical update in 2 years
00:41:44 <Gizmokid2005> *will not*
00:42:27 <pa_3608> agreed
00:42:55 <pa_3608> thanks
00:43:27 <pa_3608> i think crical updates are necessary 4 microsoft
00:44:23 <pa_3608> i get it
00:44:58 <pa_3608> they need critical updated for their program to work
00:45:16 <Gizmokid2005> no, Windows isn't a program, it's an operating system
00:45:25 <Gizmokid2005> they need critical updates to patch security holes.
00:45:54 <pa_3608> great
00:46:09 <pa_3608> thanks
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03:22:01 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is the developer of Armagetron Advanced Portable, Evince Portable & ZSoft Uninstaller Portable
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03:30:16 <Spaceghost> Hello everyone.
03:30:40 <Spaceghost> I am having a problem with KVIrc.
03:31:30 <Spaceghost> It request a starting configuration that is supposed to be only for the first start or something, but it is requested every time that I start it, and it's pretty annoying.
03:31:58 <GordCaswell> Spaceghost: How are you running KVIrc?
03:32:24 <Spaceghost> What do you mean?
03:32:26 <GordCaswell> Are you running KVIrcPortable.exe, or directly running KVIrc.exe?
03:32:29 <Spaceghost> I am using the portable app.
03:32:34 <Spaceghost> Ah, let me see.
03:35:04 <Spaceghost> I am running KVIrcPortable.exe
03:35:31 <GordCaswell> Hmm, in that case, you shouldn't be seeing the first run dialog. Hang on, let me check something
03:36:32 <GordCaswell> Ok, what kind of dialgo are you seeing: is it the servers list?
03:36:37 <Spaceghost> No.
03:37:08 <Spaceghost> It's the one that request me what config set up, I mean, if keep the logs in which folder, if it should work like a portable or not.
03:37:11 <Spaceghost> Do I explain me?
03:37:56 <GordCaswell> Hmm...ok. Try this: delete the Data folder, and run KVIrcPortable.exe again, and see if it comes up.
03:38:09 <Spaceghost> I ever had this problem since I download it, like months ago, yesterday I download it and "installed" again and the problem keeps.
03:38:12 <Spaceghost> Ok.
03:39:52 <Spaceghost> Oh, it looks solved.
03:40:11 <Spaceghost> Thanks a lot, sorry but I also had a problem with an app that I downloaded yesterday.
03:40:24 <GordCaswell> Glad I could help!
03:40:35 <GordCaswell> No problem at all. Which app?
03:41:00 <Spaceghost> It's WinBoard.
03:41:08 <Spaceghost> It shows an error that says:
03:41:52 <Spaceghost> "Unrecognized argument"
03:41:52 <Spaceghost> "Files\WinBoardPortable\Data\settings\winboardpersonal.ini"
03:42:08 <Spaceghost> ("Fatal Error")
03:42:23 <Spaceghost> It's since I "installed" it.
03:43:04 <GordCaswell> Ok, try deleting the Data directory again, and see if that fixes the problem
03:43:35 <Spaceghost> No.
03:43:40 <Spaceghost> Now it didn't work.
03:43:41 <Spaceghost> :(
03:43:47 <Spaceghost> Same error ocurred again.
03:44:42 <Spaceghost> So, the Data folder is ever auto generate when the app runs? For new apps where I don't have info to loss I can delete this folder without problems?
03:45:02 <Spaceghost> (because it is ever supposed to be autogenerated when the app run again)
03:45:53 <GordCaswell> Yes, it is designed to be re-generated if it doesn't exist. It makes it easy to troubleshoot
03:46:37 <GordCaswell> However, unless you have a problem with an app, don't delete the Data directory for no reason
03:47:51 <Spaceghost> Well, I am going to re install it.
03:48:01 <Spaceghost> And then check for the md5 of the installer.
03:52:10 <Spaceghost> The problem continous after re install :(.
03:54:14 <GordCaswell> Ok, try renaming the entire WinboardPortable folder, and re-install it. If it still gives you an error, I don't have any idea what the problem might be. Try posting to the forum if that's the case
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11:35:41 <Spaceghost> Hi everyone.
12:20:24 <Gizmokid2005> Spaceghost: if you're having issues with KVIrc, I'd be curious to know what installer you're using to run it. I know the issue you were seeing was an issue in very old versions of it, but not the latest releases.
12:21:34 <Spaceghost> Gizmokid2005: I already solved it deleting the Data folder, I reinstalled the app downloading it again, but I haven't erased the Data folder probably.
12:22:08 <Gizmokid2005> the way it's setup, even if you install the app to a fresh folder, the app will create the necessary bare structure to prevent that from coming up.
12:22:22 <Spaceghost> But before that it was an old version I think, yes, if you want I could try installing it in another folder for see what happenes by default, anyway, now I can't because I am in Linux.
12:22:34 <Gizmokid2005> the old versions have that issue
12:22:42 <Gizmokid2005> if you're not seeing it with the new ones, that's what I'd expect.
12:23:08 <Spaceghost> I "installed" it over the same folder, probably it worked just replacing the files with the same names.
12:23:39 <Gizmokid2005> well, it should delete everything but the data folder, at the same time, the launcher was probably cleaning things up on the first launch.
12:23:45 <Spaceghost> or something, uhm, maybe it was a file in the Data folder that wasn't replaced and made that problem.
12:24:23 <Spaceghost> Deleting the data folder how someone suggested here solved the problem that I had.
12:24:37 <Spaceghost> Gizmokid2005: I continous having a problem with WinBoard.
12:24:41 <Spaceghost> Did you read it?
12:24:59 <Gizmokid2005> yeah, probably an issue with the data folder...
12:25:03 <Gizmokid2005> I did, but I have no ideas on that.
12:25:12 <Gizmokid2005> I'm actually the dev for KVIrc so I've got a bit of bg there :)
12:25:26 <Spaceghost> Ah, ok, sorry.
12:25:39 <Gizmokid2005> no worries.
12:26:37 <Spaceghost> But the problem that I had with KVIrc occured probably because I used an old version, and ever when I upgrade it the problem was in the Data folder.
12:26:45 <Gizmokid2005> likely
12:27:35 <Spaceghost> I was a lot of time without touching KVIrc for that reason, then I get accostumate to that, some days ago when I need it I tried to solve that problem.
12:27:57 <Spaceghost> But the old version probably had like severals months.
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14:10:10 <kAlug_> ChrisMorgan: What do you think about http://portableapps.com/node/29458#comment-185250 and #2 in John's comment right below?
14:11:43 <ChrisMorgan> kAlug_: sorry, I'm off to bed right now (and should have been an hour ago but was sorting something out). I'll try to get back to you on it.
14:12:08 <kAlug_> Ok. Thanks. Good night.
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22:01:05 <JohnTHaller> .tell OliverK Geany 0.21 has been out a month, are you planning on updating Geany Portable?
22:01:06 <GizmoBot> JohnTHaller: I'll pass that on when OliverK is around.
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23:16:34 <pa_7461> hey, anyone?
23:17:22 <pa_7461> EviencePortable libgs-8.dll is infected with TrojWare.Win32.Koblu.A@100738920
23:17:28 <pa_7461> is it false positive?
23:23:22 <pa_7461> I see it http://v.virscan.org/TrojWare.Win32.Koblu.A.html
23:23:31 <pa_7461> others have reported it too
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