IRC Log from 2011-11-07
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00:17:50 <flash3d8> It seems like the person who made that beta lost interest. It is several versions behind and only has like 3 posts. How could I request that someone make an official Git Portable App?
00:18:55 <flash3d8> I would myself but I don't know Linux well enough to do that, or have studied the portable apps specs.
00:19:32 <kAlug> I remember that msysGit does have a portable version.
00:20:26 <kAlug> Here is it: http://msysgit.googlecode.com/files/PortableGit-1.7.7.1-preview20111027.7z
00:22:10 <flash3d8> Yeah. The only issue is setting the home directory to the flash drive which I can't find how to do automatically. The bat file posted in the beta git app thread doesn't work for the latest version.
00:22:44 <flash3d8> The other issue is that the bash path seems locked to the git directory - the one I run git bash from. 'cd ..' doesn't do anything.
00:23:00 <flash3d8> I need to run git to work with repos in other areas of my flash drive.
00:24:11 <flash3d8> There also needs to be a launcher to run the batch file so it shows up in the portable app menu, which I don't know how to make... I wish the apps menu had more flexability in allowing you to add apps and even files.
00:24:42 <kAlug> Try specifying a full path when switching directories, like cd /cygdrive/c/path/to/your/repo
00:24:45 <flash3d8> Setting the home directory is necessary to get git to recognize the rsa keys so I can access the public repo.
00:25:59 <sar3th> so basically you only need a proper launcher and then add that to the platform
00:26:17 <flash3d8> Specifying a full path works. I just can't find out how to automate the two tasks:
00:26:27 <flash3d8> 1) setting the home directory to a place on the flash drive.
00:26:39 <flash3d8> 2) Setting the work directory to my repo dir.
00:28:09 <kAlug> Well, Git's support for Windows is very... difficult.
00:29:10 <flash3d8> Yea, at least to a windows person like me.
00:29:42 <kAlug> Can't you consider moving to something else like Mercurial?
00:30:01 <flash3d8> No, Im an employee of a project.
00:30:07 <flash3d8> That uses a git repo.
00:30:17 <sar3th> flash3d8: for the home directory, git bash will take %HOME% into account
00:31:22 <flash3d8> Yes. I can use Git on my flash drive my manually opening bit-bash.bat, explicitly setting the home variable using HOME=... in bash, and explicity setting the working directory. Then its good to go.
00:31:23 <kAlug> You can use an extension like Hg-Git. I used to use it to push my portable apps to Gitorious.
00:31:52 <sar3th> flash3d8: you can modify git-bash.bat to set %HOME% for you
00:32:17 <flash3d8> How? That would be great. My attempts at a batch wrapper failed.
00:32:38 <sar3th> where is your bat located and where is your desired home?
00:33:01 <flash3d8> http://pastebin.com/vqnKnSGZ
00:33:27 <flash3d8> Bat location: [drive]:/Git/git-bash.bat
00:33:41 <flash3d8> Home location: [drive]:/Git/home/
00:34:07 <sar3th> these are the contents of your git-bash.bat?
00:34:08 <flash3d8> Repo dir: [drive]:/Documents/Web Projects/
00:34:27 <flash3d8> No, my wrapper.
00:34:35 <sar3th> ah, okay
00:34:39 <flash3d8> I haven't modified git bash.
00:35:04 <sar3th> it looks correct :|
00:35:47 <sar3th> it will set %HOME% to "[drive]:\Git\home\"
00:36:39 <flash3d8> Im sure it sets the variables correctly, which means that git doesn't use those variables to set the envir variables in the virtual bash.
00:36:45 <flash3d8> I echoed all of them.
00:37:23 <sar3th> so they show up in the launched git bash correctly? i.e. $HOME points to the correct path?
00:37:35 <flash3d8> Thats why I can't find how to automatically do this. I don't know of a 'execution hook' to insert some code.
00:38:12 <sar3th> execution hook?
00:38:27 <flash3d8> They show up unchanged in git bash. The working directory is the git directory and the HOME variable is the user dir ie C:\User\...
00:38:33 <sar3th> also, could you post your git-bash.bat, as i don't have any and msysgitportable is huge
00:39:06 <kAlug> .bashrc maybe?
00:39:09 <flash3d8> Execution hook meaning a way to tell git to run my code before proceeding.
00:40:03 <flash3d8> Git-bash.bat: http://pastebin.com/CASSPhWj
00:40:38 <flash3d8> .bashrc was referenced in the PA beta app thread I don't know what it is or how to use it.
00:42:07 <kAlug> In the git-bash changelog: "* Remove the SET of USERNAME and HOME."
00:43:19 <sar3th> flash3d8: can you change the last line in your launcher to "call git-bash.bat" instead of just "git-bash.bat" and see if that helps
00:45:34 <flash3d8> Hmmmm. Seems like that makes the HOME variable set correctly, but the working directory is still locked to the git dir.
00:45:58 <flash3d8> Testing a pull to see if it reads the rsa keys.
00:47:02 <flash3d8> Yay the pull works! Thats a step in the right direction.
00:48:36 <flash3d8> Now how can I change the default working directory, and make a launcher for it (to work with portable apps)?
00:49:51 <sar3th> http://pastebin.com/z4UfBZtT
00:49:59 <sar3th> look at lines 12 and 13
00:50:13 <sar3th> uh, actually
00:51:01 <flash3d8> I saw that. I thought it refered to the shortcut made by git when installed non-portable.
00:51:02 <sar3th> http://pastebin.com/9aqBgjSF
00:51:05 <sar3th> line 14 as well
00:52:50 <sar3th> try if that gives you the desired effects :)
00:54:37 <flash3d8> I thought it would work, but no the default directory stays the same.
00:55:04 <flash3d8> It doesn't tell me in bash what the default directory is. I test to see which one by using mkdir TEST.
00:55:16 <sar3th> you can use pwd for that
00:56:00 <flash3d8> That resolves to /
00:56:14 <flash3d8> Which is what bash says it is. It just shows paths relative to the cwd.
00:56:26 <flash3d8> And doesn't allow you to cd ..
00:57:08 <sar3th> okay, and if you test using mkdir, where does your test folder end up?
00:57:25 <sar3th> drive:\git\test ?
00:57:28 <flash3d8> In the git dir, which happens to be.
00:57:31 <flash3d8> That
00:57:48 <sar3th> that is...remarkable
00:58:37 <flash3d8> I think that is part of the portable functionality of git.... setting the cwd to the git directory.
00:59:53 <sar3th> alright, i will download msysgit portable and see if i can reproduce your problem
01:00:16 <sar3th> in the mean time, here's a guide that will allow you to add your launcher.bat to the portableapps menu: http://portableapps.com/node/21757
01:02:34 <flash3d8> Coolz. Reading...
01:02:58 <flash3d8> Im also trying to ask in #git on freenode to get some insight. If I find anything I will let you know.
01:03:27 <flash3d8> Hopefully between us, we can get an official Git portable app =)
01:03:35 <sar3th> it seems to be more of a bash problem imo, but go ahead, maybe someone in there sees what i'm missing
01:03:54 <sar3th> well, you'd need to find a dev that's willing to support git as portable package
01:04:37 <flash3d8> I thought that was what I was doing here... didn't know if you were a dev but I thought this is the place to ask.
01:04:52 <sar3th> this is the place to ask :)
01:07:55 <flash3d8> You wrote the guide lol.
01:10:34 <sar3th> i did
01:11:05 <sar3th> i am not sure what goes wrong with your git bash, it seems to behave as expected here
01:13:12 <flash3d8> Maybe you could try me on team viewer? I followed the basic install instructions of git.
01:15:24 <sar3th> if you want me to, yes, i can take a look
01:15:27 <sar3th> pm me your info
01:15:48 <flash3d8> k
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01:32:04 <flash3d8> Seriously sar3th, https://www.odesk.com/users/~~9a647081ebff17b0. Send me an email at jacob_w@odesk.com if you or portable apps needs some web work. I could contribute some time.
01:33:12 <flash3d8> I need to get going. Cya guys.
01:33:30 <sar3th> thanks flash3d8 and goodbye :)
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01:49:04 <sar3th> When are projects considered abandoned? I mean how long should I wait for a reply asking the author about his projects status?
01:50:56 <Aerok> sar3th: What kind of project?
01:51:02 <sar3th> a portableapp
01:51:08 <sar3th> in this case, msysgit portable
01:51:34 <sar3th> http://portableapps.com/node/22861#comment-186025
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01:53:26 <Aerok> That's the only post made by that user, what means that his last appearance was in March 2010.
01:55:28 <Aerok> I usually wait 1 week.
01:55:36 <sar3th> okay
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01:56:38 <Aerok> What means I can already take over HTTrack.
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02:08:47 <OliverK> .tell JohnTHaller tonight
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04:34:56 <GordCaswell> .seen JohnTHaller
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17:56:42 <pa_9111> is the donation to portableapps tax deductable?
17:57:01 <pa_9111> I am a US resident.
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18:00:12 <pa_7907> Is there an app that automatically update alll the portableapps that I have installed ?
18:02:15 <benedikt93> pa_7907, yes, the latest pre-releases of the upcoming platform version can do this for you.
18:03:14 <pa_7907> Thank god. What is the link?
18:06:21 <pa_7907> benedikt93 is there usb bootable linux?
18:09:21 <benedikt93> http://portableapps.com/download
18:14:09 <pa_7907> thanks.
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20:40:39 <pa_9337> Does Portable Thunderbird have all the same keyboard shortcuts as regular Thunderbird?
20:48:53 <benedikt93> I'd guess so, as it's the same application that is basically only launched in a different manner (it's also slightly modified IIRC, but not to remove functionality)
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20:56:26 <pa_9337> Thanks for the quick response! I’m trying to keep everything synched between home and office. I work off of a flash drive at all times, carrying all my documents back and forth. Any thoughts on benefits of working on Imap versus using Tbird Portable on the flash? I really care about keyboard shortcuts (protects my hands) and a clean, quick interface.
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21:05:00 <pa_9337> By the way, for ignorant people like me it would be great if the Live Chat instructions began with "type your question in the white box below the pale blue section, then hit enter." Could someone forward this suggestion to the right person? I have not clue about that, either...
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21:19:33 <Simeon> hi all
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21:35:31 <AlleyKat> pa_9337: hehe maybe that suggestion should be considered :P but really...
21:38:15 <AlleyKat> for the Tbird question, well.. I'd go for TB using IMAP, were I to choose..
21:39:47 <AlleyKat> given that I'd go for TB at all, but re. the shortcut comment, otherwise I'd just use a webmail thru portable Firefox
21:41:00 <AlleyKat> I surely wouldn't commit my home/work emails by using a pop client on a portable flashdrive
22:04:23 <agdurrette> This is just great http://blog.gpodder.org/2011/11/gpodder-300-397d-released.html I have some work to do :/
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