IRC Log from 2011-11-08

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01:55:10 <kAlug> hey ChrisMorgan
02:03:13 <ChrisMorgan> Hey kAlug. I'll deal with it now...
02:03:30 <kAlug> where it = ?
02:04:34 <ChrisMorgan> What you've been pestering me about for the last week or so.
02:06:03 <kAlug> hg pull
02:11:22 <ChrisMorgan> I don't think that performance should be the least of our concerns. NSIS is *very* slow and when combined with a slow USB disk we could be making launching apps take something like five seconds (I mean getting up to the Exec bit) where in a more efficient language - say, Python - it would take a second.
02:13:34 <kAlug> Is it that slow? O.O
02:13:56 <kAlug> Anyway, did you reach the "compiled" part?
02:15:18 <kAlug> The launcher compiler could be written in Python.
02:21:05 <ChrisMorgan> That is my intention with PADT.
02:22:04 <ChrisMorgan> And I do intend to do significant refactoring of FileWriteN, using plenty of macros to reduce the horrid code duplication problem.
02:26:09 <kAlug> My idea was to make the compiler emit !insertmacros with the parameters, sort of what I did in ReplaceCommon.
02:27:09 <kAlug> By the way, what's your idea on the test suite? I was thinking on comparing the debug logs.
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02:39:50 <ChrisMorgan> Mine is an assertions system.
02:43:16 <ChrisMorgan> ${Assert} _a _b _c _m (equivalent to !ifdef ASSERT .. ${IfNotThen} _a _b _c ${|} OhDearTheAssertionFailed _m ${|} .. !endif), plus variables $D0-$D9 for debugging to make sure that we never alter inbuilt variables, and the ability to use !ifdef ASSERT for efficiency when not running them.
02:44:40 <ChrisMorgan> Then, perhaps build up a suite of suitable apps, and definitely make some launchers which make things happen. And drive the whole lot from Python.
02:45:55 <ChrisMorgan> Lunch time now, back later
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03:55:58 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is the developer of Armagetron Advanced Portable, Evince Portable & ZSoft Uninstaller Portable
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11:14:09 <pa_0061> Hi,
11:14:20 <pa_0061> I was wondering if someone could help me
11:14:52 <pa_0061> I am looking to upgrade Thunderbird portable from v3 to v7.0.1. How do I do this?
11:15:15 <pa_0061> do I just need to overrwite all of the files from the new installer?
11:19:32 <ChrisMorgan> pa_0061: just run the installer and install it to the same location; it takes care of upgrading.
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18:36:05 <Simeon> hi all
18:47:08 *** LordClaros (4ce8039e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.76.232.3.158) has joined #portableapps
18:47:37 <LordClaros> I have a problem that I would like help solving, should someone here have a moment...
18:48:50 <LordClaros> Is anyone available to help?
18:53:22 <Simeon> yes
18:58:30 <LordClaros> Okay, I have a problem with my Google Chrome Portable installation.
18:58:50 <LordClaros> It keeps saying that my "profile could not be loaded" whenever I open the browser.
18:59:19 <LordClaros> I looked all over Google for some kind of answer, but found none that were suitable.
18:59:25 <Simeon> Did you find anything in the forums?
18:59:36 <LordClaros> Looked all over the place there, too.
18:59:51 <LordClaros> Nobody seemed to have a solution that worked for me.
19:00:02 <LordClaros> I would re-download it, but I can't download on this computer.
19:00:24 <LordClaros> And I can't go anywhere else right now that would let me download.
19:00:33 <Simeon> I am a bit lost as I hartdly ever use chrome...
19:00:39 <LordClaros> Hmmmmm...
19:01:28 <Simeon> Do you have importand stuff in your profile? like bookmarks?
19:01:38 <LordClaros> Not really.
19:01:47 <LordClaros> And that's the thing: it saved all of my bookmarks.
19:02:03 <LordClaros> It's just my passwords and Java installation that are messed up.
19:02:41 <LordClaros> Chrome is blind to my Java Portable installation, and it keeps acting like I've never logged into anything and saved the password.
19:03:09 <Simeon> is java in the standard location? /PortableApps/CommonFiles?
19:03:20 <LordClaros> It remembers my login names, (like my e-mail address), and offers the suggestions, but keeps logging me out when I close the browser.
19:03:44 <LordClaros> And yeah, it's in /PortableApps/CommonFiles/Java.
19:03:47 <Simeon> strange.
19:04:15 <LordClaros> It seems that there's a theme with Chrome to suddenly mess up whenever Java is updated, though.
19:04:37 <LordClaros> Oh. Snap. I just realized that I updated my Java Portable. And that's when everything went wacky.
19:04:49 <Simeon> Does it work if you rename ChromePortable/Data to /Data2. Then it creates a new profile from scratch inside /Data.
19:04:59 <LordClaros> I'll try that...
19:05:01 <LordClaros> Hold on...
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19:07:12 <LordClaros_> Okay, it stopped giving me that error upon opening.
19:07:29 <LordClaros_> But I looked in "about:plugins" and it still doesn't have Java.
19:08:06 <Simeon> I never used JavaPortable with a portable browser so I cant really help you there.
19:08:20 <LordClaros_> There was something about going into the Java Control Panel to fix this issue with a normal Chrome install...
19:08:33 <LordClaros_> Is there a way to get to the Java Control Panel in Java Portable?
19:09:00 <Simeon> no Idea
19:09:17 <LordClaros_> Hmmmm...
19:09:27 <LordClaros_> Well, I'll do some digging around this site and Google, then.
19:09:32 <LordClaros_> Thanks for your help!
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19:11:42 <LordClaros_> Ooh!
19:11:45 <LordClaros_> Got it on my own!
19:11:51 <Simeon> nice!
19:12:41 <LordClaros_> You can just go to /PortableApps/CommonFiles/Java/bin then open "javacpl.exe"
19:12:47 <LordClaros_> Boom! Java Control Panel.
19:13:08 <LordClaros_> Now, to see if it saved the settings, which was another problem in Chrome... >_<;;;
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19:16:10 <LordClaros> Nope. It didn't. >_<;;;
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19:18:06 <LordClaros> I think this actually has to do with me not having Admin rights on this computer...
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19:21:07 <Simeon> I just dont know how that affects portability if you go in there and launch it though.
19:21:25 <Simeon> Whats that about the settings?
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20:06:21 <LordClaros> Simeon, are you still there?
20:06:57 <Simeon> yes
20:07:11 <LordClaros> Cool. I have a Firefox question for you, if you have a moment.
20:07:18 <LordClaros> Are you familiar with Firefox?
20:07:35 <Simeon> yes
20:08:16 <LordClaros> Then would you happen to know how to install Java manually using the "Install add-on from file" option in the Addon-ons Manager?
20:08:47 <Simeon> thats outdated. FF should support JavaPortable in CommonFiles now.
20:09:14 <Simeon> havent tried it though. Not much time to fiddle around lately.
20:09:17 <LordClaros> I think it's a problem with my Java Portable install.
20:09:24 <Simeon> reinstall...
20:09:51 <LordClaros> I tried that on my personal computer a few minutes ago. It still didn't work.
20:10:22 <LordClaros> So I figured that, if Java can be installed through that "from file" feature, then my problem could be solved...
20:10:31 <LordClaros> I'll mess around with it some more.
20:10:32 <Simeon> you could try it.
20:10:36 <LordClaros> Thanks for your help.
20:10:52 <Simeon> or wait till someone with more knowledge arrives here or post in the forums
20:11:25 <LordClaros> I'll do that. Thanks`1
20:11:30 <LordClaros> Oops. *derp*
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21:12:27 <LordClaros> I have a question about Firefox Portable, if someone has a chance to help me...
21:15:51 <LordClaros> I'll just ask it, and wait until someone replies...
21:16:15 <LordClaros> What was the last version of Firefox Portable that DIDN'T work with jPortable?
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23:50:01 <JAWS> hi
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23:53:15 <JAWS> bye
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