IRC Log from 2011-11-11
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02:30:00 <kAlug> howdy JohnTHaller
02:30:22 <JohnTHaller> hola
02:31:23 <kAlug> Danny Muniz asked me to manage his projects for some time, how should I proceed?
02:37:08 <JohnTHaller> what are his projects?
02:39:43 <kAlug> Inno Setup, PIXresizer, Nevitium and FreeRapid Downloader
02:39:59 <ZachThibeau> hola JohnTHaller
02:40:00 <JohnTHaller> I don't think any of those are officially released.
02:40:03 <JohnTHaller> hi ZachThibeau
02:40:23 <kAlug> Yep. All in Dev Testing.
02:40:41 <ZachThibeau> I have upgraded from a 4 string bass to a 5 string, learning all over again now
02:41:13 <kAlug> I mean, as it's just temporary, should I post in a new thread or what?
02:41:27 <JohnTHaller> kAlug: Do they all need upgrading?
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02:43:46 <kAlug> s/guess the/&y/
02:43:52 <kAlug> IIRD, PIXresizer does. FreeRapid has wrong version number. Haven't checked the others yet, but I'd guess the need to be updated to the latest template (Other\Source, help.html etc.).
02:44:34 <JohnTHaller> You can update them in the same thread. And I'll update the main topic with the info. Just post a comment with exactly what you'd like it to be.
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02:46:43 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is the developer of Armagetron Advanced Portable, Evince Portable & ZSoft Uninstaller Portable
02:46:54 <kAlug> OK. Thank you.
02:47:02 <kAlug> hello GordCaswell
02:47:13 <GordCaswell> Hey guys
02:47:22 <JohnTHaller> hi gord
02:49:09 <kAlug> BTW John: I added ReplaceCommon/All to PAL: http://portableapps.chrismorgan.info/launcher/manual/releases/2.2/#new-catch-all-find-replace
02:49:43 <GordCaswell> hi John. Can you check this out for me, and let me know if it sounds good to you? It's information relating to the Release Team, compiled from previous release team topics & updated. sar3th: I think you had some comments for it as well: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tvmR7_0WnIt3pgBI4m16z3McnNuy6RXEdCNwqQE5D2g/edit
02:49:56 <ZachThibeau> and any eta on an issue tracker?
02:49:56 <JohnTHaller> kAlug: Cool. How's it workin?
02:50:10 <JohnTHaller> ZachThibeau: After Drupal7, whenever that happens
02:50:14 <JohnTHaller> SO no.
02:50:19 <ZachThibeau> ok
02:51:20 <kAlug> It worked fine on my tests. Any other request for 2.2?
02:52:07 <JohnTHaller> Offhand, I can't think of any. Unless you wanted to try and work in the Installer passing the Launcher the locale for first run (sans Platform)
02:53:01 <kAlug> Not ATM. Too much homework.
02:53:20 <kAlug> And there's already too much features to test.
02:53:40 <JohnTHaller> GordCaswell: Looks good. But, I'd remove occasionally in terms of a pre-release. We'll do them when warranted. Not sure what % of the time that will be.
02:53:55 <kAlug> The next release will hopefully introduce compiled launchers (like the Installer) and a test suite.
02:54:07 <GordCaswell> K, that can be removed easily enough.
02:55:06 <JohnTHaller> kAlug: No worries. I was thinking we could do it later by having the Installer dump the LocaleID (example 1033 for English) in a palfirstrun.ini during install. And PAL could check for that after checking for the platform language. Just as a thought on how we could do it.
02:56:03 <kAlug> Hmm... we'll need a translation table.
02:56:37 <JohnTHaller> I'll shortly be able to dump all 5 vars from PAI itself. I'm building in a language table.
02:57:23 <kAlug> Ah. Great.
02:58:02 <JohnTHaller> I'm building it into the translation files itself as translation vars, you could easily dump them right into the PAL translations, too, if you'd like.
03:01:02 <kAlug> John: have you already decided on the proper names' translation?
03:01:16 <JohnTHaller> What do you mean?
03:01:33 <kAlug> http://portableapps.com/node/28595#comment-185278
03:01:47 <kAlug> Translate 'Platform', 'Updater', etc.?
03:01:58 <JohnTHaller> Right. I'm honestly a bit torn about it. What do you think?
03:04:22 <kAlug> Translated works better for non-tech users.
03:05:30 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, very true. Alright, let's go with translated
03:06:24 <kAlug> OK. Now, next question: is Java going to be treated as a shared library by the Platform?
03:07:32 <GordCaswell> JohnTHaller: I'm about to post this release team information, if I've made any mistakes once posted that you notice, feel free to edit.
03:09:17 <JohnTHaller> kAlug: It is. In CommonFiles\Java. The platform will prompt the user if they try and launch a Java app and Java isn't installed. The translations for those strings are part of the current set in the platform.
03:09:27 <JohnTHaller> GordCaswell: Cool. Thanks :)
03:10:41 <kAlug> Yeah. I'd guess it will need something like PAL's [Activate]:Java=find|require in the Format, right?
03:14:02 <JohnTHaller> kAlug: It's already in there. [Dependencies]:UsesJava=true|false
03:14:51 <kAlug> DIALOG_SHARED_LIBRARY_DOWNLOAD vs. DIALOG_SHARED_LIBRARY_DOWNLOAD_OPTIONAL (e.g. LibreOffice)
03:15:34 <JohnTHaller> Yeah, I'm altering that tomorrow. Deprecating true|false. Switching to yes|optional|no. true and false will still work and map to yes and no.
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03:20:49 <GordCaswell> And posted: http://portableapps.com/node/29734
03:21:23 <GordCaswell> btw, JohnTHaller: can I get edit permissions for the release status page, please?
03:21:44 <JohnTHaller> GordCaswell: You've got em now
03:21:52 <GordCaswell> great, thanks.
03:22:19 <JohnTHaller> GordCaswell: You want to add a mention of the Apps Ready For Release topic in the announcement to show what apps will be going into testing?
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03:29:27 <GordCaswell> Updated.
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03:38:34 <GordCaswell> done
03:38:52 <GordCaswell> once i finish editing the page. John, etc, can add the privilieges
03:38:56 <GordCaswell> *privileges
03:43:59 <kAlug> Well, good night all
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03:46:34 <GordCaswell> kAlug: how do you want to be listed? (If you're still there)
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03:57:04 <GordCaswell> JohnTHaller: you indicated for an older incarnation of the release team that you could make the splash image template available for the release team. Are you willing to send it to Zach & I?
03:57:43 <JohnTHaller> I don't think I've ever said that since we updated the splash over a year ago. It uses a commercial font and requires Photoshop.
03:58:09 <GordCaswell> Hmm, ok, we'll leave that up to you then.
03:58:34 <JohnTHaller> A splash takes maybe 3 minutes to put together using the template I have, so it's just part of the final release stage along with digitally signing.
03:58:51 <GordCaswell> Ok, no problem :)
04:00:49 <JohnTHaller> I think I may bump back Google Beta/Dev channel updating to once per week on a given day. They sometimes do 3 beta releases in a week, which is a bit absurd (and not an indication of a beta-quality release)
04:02:23 <GordCaswell> All it's inidicative of, is that Google has gone overboard with the faster-paced release cycle. I'd say for any application that once a week is plenty, particularly if it's still in beta.
04:06:52 <JohnTHaller> Then again, Miranda updates every other week with minimal fixes, which is also annoying.
04:07:56 <GordCaswell> Balabolka, a freeware app i've got in testing, updates every week, too. Fortunately, it's quick to update it.
04:17:31 <Aerok> GordCaswell: what do you mean?
04:17:55 <Aerok> JohnTHaller: update Chrome on Thurdays or Saturdays.
04:18:11 <GordCaswell> I have you listed on the Status page right now by full name, with initials as AG. is that ok?
04:18:30 <GordCaswell> JohnTHaller: What's best for -your- schedule?
04:19:24 <JohnTHaller> When I have time. As it's a beta/dev and no one should be using it as a primary browser, it doesn't really matter.
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04:20:00 <Aerok> GordCaswell: kg ([k]Alu[g])
04:20:08 <pa_3393> hi i have a problem i want to unisntal 7zip portable but theres no unistal shell
04:20:17 <JohnTHaller> uninstall shell?
04:20:31 <pa_3393> sorry the unistal
04:20:47 <pa_3393> uninstall
04:20:49 <JohnTHaller> If you're using the PA.c Platform (HIGHLY recommended to all users), you just right-click on the "7-Zip Portable" entry in the menu and select Uninstall.
04:20:59 <ZachThibeau> pa_3393: just remove the 7-ZipPortable folder from the PortableApps.com folder or in the menu if I recall you can right click the app and select uninstall which removes the app for you
04:21:05 <JohnTHaller> If you're not, you'll need to bring up Windows Explorer and just delete the 7-ZipPortable folder.
04:21:48 <JohnTHaller> Remember, portable apps aren't "installed" on the machine, so they have no entry in Add\Remove programs. They're just extracted and exist in a single directory wherever you stick em.
04:22:27 <pa_3393> just delete the folder?
04:22:39 <JohnTHaller> Yyyyup. That's all there is to it.
04:22:49 <pa_3393> ok thanks
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04:23:42 <Aerok> JohnTHaller: There are people that complain by not being able to set Chrome's Canary channel as default browser. Just a few, luckily.
04:24:14 <JohnTHaller> We don't even offer Chrome's Canary channel.
04:24:38 <Aerok> I know. I meant, the installed version.
04:24:48 <JohnTHaller> Oh, nvm. Yeah, it's SCARY that someone would want to use that as their primary browser.
04:25:01 <GordCaswell> Aerok: Alright, thanks. changed.
04:32:34 <Aerok> JohnTHaller: What about a PA.c IRC hostname cloak?
04:32:59 <ZachThibeau> iirc he tried a while ago for that
04:33:00 <GordCaswell> you know, I was wondering about that as well
04:41:23 <GordCaswell> I'm out for the night. Later all
04:41:27 <JohnTHaller> gnight
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04:43:19 <ZachThibeau> night as well, I got a wedding I'm helping out with as a parking attendant tomorrow
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04:43:35 <JohnTHaller> And I need sleep to work tomorrow. Gnight all
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09:58:01 <Peachy23> Hi
09:58:26 <Peachy23> I can't open portable app. Anyone know solution?
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12:54:08 <pa_1231> when loading Iranfan view from pot.applns I get a message another instance of Irfan view is opening. I have NOTHING in the C drive. I searched no such irfan is evn loaded in my main computer C drive? Do you know what caueses it. I uninstalled and agin installed irfan view. Yr\et I have the same problem
12:57:09 <TPFC-SYSTEM> The message simply claims that i_view32.exe is already running.
12:57:16 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Have you checked Task Manager?
13:06:50 <pa_1231> Thjis is in pen drive; portable applications. The message says verbatim : "Anoteher instance of Irfanview portable is starting. Please wait for it to start before launching again" I even formatted the pen drive as a clean slate and started all over. I did a windows search and there is NOT a single file in C drive with the name "irfan" Cleared the cache, etc with Ccleaner. Yes, nothing in the task manager. If i open the irfanvi
13:08:07 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Sounds very odd.
13:08:36 <TPFC-SYSTEM> There have been some similar reports (e.g. http://portableapps.com/node/28572), but this problem isn't common.
13:09:27 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Given that you have even reformatted the pendrive, I have no further ideas. :(
13:29:21 <pa_1231> Thanks for your help. the link you gave suggested that "bad eject" maybe one of the problems. There are two dialogues: one is 'exit' the other is eject.. which one i should use to quit.. I belive the problem maybe there!
13:30:22 <TPFC-SYSTEM> A reformat should absolutely kill such problems, though.
13:33:39 <pa_1231> Thanks!
13:35:12 <TPFC-SYSTEM> It was not a hint. I meant that a reformat would help if the problem was inproper ejection.
13:36:12 <TPFC-SYSTEM> As you mentioned that reformat didn't help, the problem must be somewhere else (e.g. locally installed software or even hardware).
13:38:39 <pa_1231> I ruled that out as I changed the sytem; moved from desk top to lap top: the problem exists...
13:41:27 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I can't think of anything that hasn't been ruled out yet... :(
13:48:27 <pa_1231> I downloaded this irfan-portable from portableApps.com. I found one with CNET irfanview portable 4.30-paf.exe.exe ( I am not sure why two exe as file extensions.) Is it the CNET same one what portappl has?
13:50:06 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Yes, it is: http://download.cnet.com/IrfanView-Portable/3010-2192_4-75329972.html?tag=contentBody;sideBar
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14:06:30 <pa_1231> An interesting observation: I uninstalled irfan. Download and installed again. It opens well first time. I closed the appln. removed drive safely. I insetereed the drive. When trying to start irfan again, I get the same error message. May offer you some clue..
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14:37:02 <pa_1231> Problem solved! The mistake was: After closing the irfan, when trying to close the portable applns (with the right click on the icon), there are two dialogues: one is "eject" and next is" exit." I found the rightway is to exit (not eject), and then safely remove the flash drive, On re-sinserting flash drive no problems; irfan opens well. Thanks! Ejecting cuases this "problem."
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14:55:23 <Guest91099> Hi, I have a question regarding the portableapps platform updater
14:55:37 <Guest91099> is there a way for me to set up a proxy for the updater?
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15:46:59 <pa_1016> HELLO
15:47:03 <pa_1016> I need help please
15:47:27 <pa_1016> I don't know how to integrate an app in portableapps
15:47:34 <pa_1016> by example Chrome
15:47:37 <pa_1016> portable
15:47:48 <pa_1016> in which repertory
15:47:54 <pa_1016> do I have to put it ?
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15:48:38 <sar3th> >_>
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17:41:40 <pa_8142> Hello
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17:43:15 <Juicebox> Can anyone help me with a problem I am having?
17:44:34 <Juicebox> help!
17:44:34 <GizmoBot> Juicebox: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
17:45:27 <Juicebox> When I try to put one of my own apps in PortableApps, the program stops working all together. How can this be fixed?
17:46:12 <sar3th> is your app in the Portableapps.com Format?
17:46:18 <sar3th> see http://portableapps.com/development/portableapps.com_format
17:46:27 <Juicebox> I dont think so
17:47:13 <Juicebox> SO I cant use my own non paf apps on PortableApps?
17:47:57 <sar3th> well, you can
17:47:58 <sar3th> see http://portableapps.com/support/portable_apps_suite#addingotherapps
17:48:07 <sar3th> but i'm not sure what the cause of your problem is
17:48:29 <Juicebox> Yeah I saw that b4
17:48:51 <Juicebox> Idk if this matetr buts im using a 1tb external HArd drive and usign win7
17:51:22 <Juicebox> any way to fix this problem?
17:51:51 <Juicebox> also just adding new folders in documents makes Portable apps not work
17:54:19 <Juicebox> is there a certain format the hard drive need to be or something? help !
18:00:05 <Juicebox> Can someone help me
18:01:41 <Juicebox> ?
18:05:07 <Juicebox> help
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18:07:10 <Juicebox> sar3th
18:11:52 <Juicebox> CAn someone help me plz
18:12:26 <Juicebox> sar3th: are u there
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18:13:29 <sar3th> sorry, i had to run, got my mum visiting
18:13:30 <sar3th> bbl
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18:13:58 <juicebox> Can someone help me plz
18:14:22 <sar3th|away> sorry juicebox, i don't have time now, got a visitor...i will be back later, ~1hr, meanwhile maybe someone else can help
18:14:37 <juicebox> yeah noone even replys
18:16:04 <juicebox> anyone here that can help me?
18:16:57 <juicebox> help
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18:17:07 <juicebox> help
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19:40:09 <Rocketman> Hey, can anyone help me with some problems Im having with Portableapps?
19:41:54 <Rocketman> Anyone here?
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20:14:07 <pa_2809> Hi
20:14:28 <pa_2809> how can i change the folders like pictures viedeos and so on?
20:14:33 <pa_2809> in portableapps
20:14:35 <pa_2809> ?
20:15:38 <pa_2809> no one here?
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20:18:39 <pa_2809> chanserv?
20:18:46 <pa_2809> how do you mean that?
20:20:09 <Gizmokid2005> pa_2809: there's no way tto change where the folders point currently.
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