IRC Log from 2011-12-01
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01:17:56 <pa_9048> i've got a question bout Audacity ... ne1 here able 2 assist me?
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01:19:02 <pa_9048> hello??
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01:19:40 <GizmoBot> ...
01:19:51 <GordCaswell> pa_9048: what's the question?
01:21:13 <pa_9048> can I use my laptop ifn I install it on there for recording live concerts ifn I patch outta a dat deck??
01:22:28 <GordCaswell> I think I understand what you're asking, but can you please ask in proper English, so I can be sure?
01:23:29 <GordCaswell> As far as I can tell from your question, yes, you can. I have used Audacity for this myself in the past, plugging into my "microphone" line.
01:23:48 <pa_9048> I'm wanting to patch in thru my mini stereo mic jack on my laptop from a DAT deck to record concerts
01:24:57 <pa_9048> can I save it as a .wav file, or does it have to be .mp3??
01:25:32 <GordCaswell> Hang on, let me check
01:25:43 <pa_9048> will do
01:25:47 <ZachThibeau> it will support wav and mp3 (note to get support for mp3 you need to download the lame plugin (yes that's the name) which does your mp3 encoding
01:27:06 <pa_9048> I don't want .mp3s, just .wav or else .flac ... is there a plugin available for .flac??
01:27:49 <ZachThibeau> well since xiph wrote flac and also ogg and I'm fairly sure audacity supports flac
01:28:18 <GordCaswell> Indeed it does, I just exported a flac file from it just now
01:28:24 <pa_9048> cool !!!
01:29:09 <ZachThibeau> yeah aac and mp3 are the only 2 formats that require special plugins the rest are built in including flac
01:29:44 <pa_9048> thank you!
01:29:51 <GordCaswell> You're welcome
01:32:04 <pa_9048> which would you suggest would be best for me ... platform only, suite light or suite standard??
01:32:19 <ZachThibeau> platform does not come with any applications
01:32:29 <ZachThibeau> but
01:32:44 <GordCaswell> the pre-release: http://downloads.sourceforge.net/portableapps/PortableApps.com_Platform_Setup_2.0_Pre-Release_4.2.exe
01:32:59 <ZachThibeau> if you had the pre-release platform it comes with an option to download the apps you want from the updater that's a part of it
01:33:03 <GordCaswell> it allows you to download any of our apps directly from within itself
01:34:09 <pa_9048> I read on the page that there were some bugs, & since going to be recording concerts, a bug could cause me to not get the show
01:34:35 <GordCaswell> what page are you referring to?
01:34:45 <GordCaswell> I also c
01:35:07 <GordCaswell> *challenge you to find an application, any application, that doesn't have bugs.
01:35:38 <pa_9048> For most users, we recommend the newer and more full-featured "Next" Pre-Release platform. It should be noted that this is still, technically, a test release, so there will be occasional bugs within it. If you're looking for our 1.6.1 stable release of our platform and suite, you can get it from our PortableApps.com Platform and Suite 1.6.1 download page.
01:35:41 <sar3th> in that case, how about you install the latest regular stable version of audacity to your laptop and test it out before the concert
01:35:44 <GordCaswell> It's part of software development - constantly find and fixing bugs. Even Microsoft and Apple are constantly fixing bugs in their programs and operating systems :)
01:36:54 <ZachThibeau> the platform bugs will not affect your recording, once audacity portable is launched it will still work, you would still have what you want, the issue would be the platform not audacity portable
01:37:20 <pa_9048> Thank you +Gord ... you've been a great help!!!!!!!!
01:37:31 <GordCaswell> However, the Audacity team is pushing version 1.3.13 as the recommended version for anyone using Windows or Mac operating systems
01:37:45 <GordCaswell> you're welcome, glad to be of assistance
01:38:32 <pa_9048> O ... will it work with Windows 7 64 bit??
01:38:53 <GordCaswell> of course. That's what I'm on right now, and it works great
01:39:11 <GordCaswell> :)
01:39:31 <pa_9048> just asking ...
01:39:55 <GordCaswell> No worries, lots of people ask similar questions
01:40:07 <pa_9048> is this irc room one of the apps available?
01:40:41 <ZachThibeau> I maintain an IRC Client called PChat and there are others like kvirc that's available at portableapps.com
01:40:45 <GordCaswell> there are irc clients available, but the room itself is hosted by freenode
01:41:00 <GordCaswell> http://freenode.net/
01:41:25 <ZachThibeau> by default PChat Portable will connect you to this server and channel (can be disabled if you want)
01:41:47 <pa_9048> cool ... have enjoyed your company & assistance!!
01:42:11 <pa_9048> Bye for now ... off to download land
01:42:19 <ZachThibeau> like there is a server list in PChat just find freenode and click connect and it will take you here
01:42:24 <ZachThibeau> and have fun
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01:58:00 <kAlug_> good night folks
01:58:13 <GordCaswell> night
01:58:53 <kAlug_> GordCaswell: check the VistaSwitcher thread
01:59:07 <GordCaswell> the ExecShell thing?
01:59:54 <kAlug_> And the language.
02:00:42 <GordCaswell> yep, saw it. I think I figured the languages out, working on it now. I don't understand why ExecShell would work but ExecWait wouldn't. Kinda weird
02:02:01 <kAlug_> Nor do I. Time to check MSDN.
02:02:10 <GordCaswell> Yup
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02:19:06 <kAlug_> .seen ChrisMorgan
02:19:06 <GizmoBot> Sorry, I haven't seen chrismorgan around.
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10:06:59 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is a pony
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13:41:56 <pa_7179> I edited FirefoxPortable.ini and deleted some of the entires, is this bad?
13:43:08 <pa_7179> I deleted the entires then moved FirefoxPortable.ini to the firefox.exe folder. does this have a negative effect?
13:43:19 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Likely yes.
13:43:40 <TPFC-SYSTEM> You can undo the damage by moving FirefoxPortable.ini somewhere else.
13:44:14 <ZachThibeau> also FirefoxPortable.ini shouldn't be near firefox.exe it should be on the same level as FirefoxPortable.exe
13:44:24 <pa_7179> the instructions say to put FirefoxPortable.ini in the same folder as firefox.exe
13:44:35 <pa_7179> sory, firefoxportable.exe
13:44:38 <pa_7179> my mistake
13:45:17 <pa_7179> so, if it is in the right directory, can deleting some entries afect it?
13:45:35 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Yes. AFAIK, every entry is there on purpose.
13:46:29 <pa_7179> the readme.txt says using FirefoxPortable.ini is not necessary so I thought using it and editing it some would not have any efect at all
13:46:34 <ZachThibeau> no it shouldn't affect it
13:47:04 <pa_7179> ok
13:47:25 <ZachThibeau> the launcher would take care of stuff like RunLocally if it isn't defined in the ini file
13:48:07 <pa_7179> @ZachThibeau that was actually what I was concerned about
13:48:21 <pa_7179> the runlocally part
13:48:36 <TPFC-SYSTEM> ZachThibeau: I thought that custom FirefoxPortable.ini completely replaces settings compiled into PAL.
13:48:48 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I'm sorry for spreading misinformation. :(
13:49:09 <ZachThibeau> TPFC-SYSTEM: that's unrelated to pal the ini he's talking about is usually located in /Other/sources
13:49:30 <ZachThibeau> those provide overrides for the launcher
13:49:41 <ZachThibeau> IE disabling the splash screen etc
13:50:13 <ZachThibeau> now if it was the pal ini file then yes that would affect launcher specifications
13:50:41 <pa_7179> all clear now
13:51:04 <TPFC-SYSTEM> So there are two separate INI files that have different effects?
13:51:20 <TPFC-SYSTEM> How does PAL recognize them?
13:52:00 <ZachThibeau> I don't know since I didn't write pal but this is what I've known since I started working with John back in 06/07
13:52:46 <TPFC-SYSTEM> OK, thanks Zach.
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14:01:08 <ZachThibeau> wow my nsis is rusty, trying to generate an installer for PChat to install on desktops
14:01:33 <ZachThibeau> got the gist of it, just trying to figure out making a section required lol
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14:10:45 <kAlug> TPFC-SYSTEM: "So there are two separate INI files that have different effects? How does PAL recognize them?" By location.
14:12:04 <ZachThibeau> thank you kAlug, I would of thought of it eventually but my brain isn't working currently >_<
14:12:44 <ZachThibeau> especially since I'm trying to recall nsis functions for my own desktop installer
14:15:44 <kAlug> Ahh... it's always good to keep practicing. I never understood C pointers completely, and then I haven't programmed in C for two years now...
14:15:55 <kAlug> BTW, how is PChat going?
14:16:06 <ZachThibeau> found out why PChat was crashing left and right
14:16:14 <ZachThibeau> wasn't PChat's fault
14:16:28 <ZachThibeau> it was a bad gtk release of 2.2x series
14:17:54 <ZachThibeau> I reverted to gtk 2.16 and everything is running smooth, setting up test builds both portable and desktop users before I go for a final release (final release gonna be 1.5 as I also included multithreading to PChat and generally new features mean bump up version)
14:19:32 <ZachThibeau> I know in the portable version I need to add extra instructions to pal to compensate file directory for downloads
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14:49:55 <TPFC-SYSTEM> kAlug: Thanks for the answer.
14:50:33 <TPFC-SYSTEM> The remaining question is: where the INI should be located in order to reset the settings?
14:50:47 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I mean, what's the other location?
15:00:56 <kAlug> Just delete it.
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15:03:20 <TPFC-SYSTEM> Ah, kAlug misunderstood my question. I'll rephrase.
15:03:23 <TPFC-SYSTEM> "now if it was the pal ini file then yes that would affect launcher specifications"
15:03:47 <TPFC-SYSTEM> I wanted to know where the INI should be in order to be the "pal ini file".
15:04:28 <TPFC-SYSTEM> With resetting the settings, I meant resetting them to global PAL defaults.
15:04:45 <TPFC-SYSTEM> That should happen if an empty PAL ini is used, right?
15:05:50 <TPFC-SYSTEM> In addition, I asked just for curiosity. :) I don't currently have any customized INI files.
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15:55:59 <kAlug> TPFC-SYSTEM: An empty launcher.ini will raise an error. There are no defaults.
15:56:33 <TPFC-SYSTEM> OK, thanks.
15:56:59 <TPFC-SYSTEM> And I assume launcher.ini is "the other location" I was asking?
15:57:27 <kAlug> Yep. The one in App\AppInfo\Launcher.
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16:41:57 <ZachThibeau> hey kAlug I just finished my desktop installer finally http://imghost.e10host.com/images/installer1.png a parody of XChat's installer but with an aero feel
16:42:11 <ZachThibeau> and the next page http://imghost.e10host.com/images/installer2.png
16:43:41 <kAlug> Stating the obvious: side image needs more height :-)
16:46:43 <kAlug> Also: isn't the GPL a redist license, and not a usage one?
16:57:05 <kAlug> ZachThibeau: Wow... cool logo for PChat.
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20:03:00 <pa_9164> Hi
20:03:47 <pa_9164> I have Installed Portable App Firefox Browser and would like to know where the files/Cookies are saved
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23:53:56 <pa_5514> hello. i want a app developed, but i do not have the resources to do so myself. cananyone assist?
23:55:05 <pa_5514> ?
23:55:08 <pa_5514> ?