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07:45:31 <benonsoftware> Hello all
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07:46:33 <kAlug> argh...
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10:11:24 <pa_8781> Hi great PA people!
10:12:51 <pa_8781> I don't have account on PA.com. Can I say here what APP is outdated, and you will pass it further?
10:14:13 <pa_8781> Ok, i guess noone is looking right now, but i'll try.
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10:15:40 <pa_0478> About that outdated APP...
10:16:03 <pa_0478> It's Putty, new version is 0.62 (released 2011-12-10)
10:16:22 <pa_0478> Change log: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/changes.html
10:16:30 <pa_0478> CU, gotta go
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13:57:09 * pa_7240 what is the zip password for unlocker portable?
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14:10:07 * pa_7240 Is use of the PA platform required to open an archive, in my case UnLocker?
14:14:49 <Gizmokid2005> Nothing you download from us to install will come in a .zip format, much less a password protected one.
14:16:57 <OliverK> Gizmokid2005: its a hosting thing
14:17:13 <OliverK> pa_7240: should be in the topic, have a link to the topic please?
14:17:37 * pa_7240 UnLocker downloaded as "UnlockerPortable_1.0.0.9_English.paf_pass=zer0dev.zip"
14:18:04 <OliverK> then I would try using zer0dev.zip as the password
14:18:56 <Gizmokid2005> no .zip
14:19:01 <Gizmokid2005> just use zer0dev as the password
14:19:05 <Gizmokid2005> since it's pretty blatant in the title.
14:19:53 * pa_7240 I don't understand "should be in the topic", but I realized the answer to my own question: p/w is zer0dev
14:20:27 <Gizmokid2005> pa_7240: the topic is the post you downloaded the file from
14:20:36 <Gizmokid2005> and you do not need to use "/me" before everything you say.
14:23:06 <pa_7240> thank you. this is my first use of this chat interface & I clearly have much to learn. I would have seen the password if the file name column in Explorer had been wide enough -- I only saw it when I pasted the name.
14:24:59 <pa_7240> I didn't download the file from a post (as I understande the term), but from "http://portableapps.com/node/12210"
14:25:25 <pa_7240> which is a zip file
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14:26:31 <Gizmokid2005> yes pa_7240, that link you gave me, is the "post/topic"
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14:27:36 <pa_7240> OK, thanks much for your help. bye
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14:38:53 <pa_9413> How do I ID my topic? by pasting the page which generated my question (in the case of my recent exchange with @Gizmokid2005)? http://portableapps.com/node/12210
14:39:16 <Gizmokid2005> yes pa_9413
14:41:32 <pa_9413> THank you Gizmokid2005 -- I'll try to be clearer when/if there's a next time.
14:41:57 <Gizmokid2005> you're welcome pa_9413
14:42:04 <pa_9413> bye
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16:53:41 <pa_4251> Just looked at the Flash Drive bundle. I have a question. Anyone on that might be able to answer?
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19:35:23 <pa_7049> I have a question (perhaps a few) about how portableapps works exactly. I did read through some of the pages to learn more about things. Would I install portableapps on an external hard or on my PC? d
19:37:54 <pa_7049> Would I install portableapps on an external hard drive or on my PC? [Don't know what happened to that last sentence]
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19:54:48 <kAlug> pa_7049: you there?
19:55:20 <pa_7049> yes!
19:56:38 <kAlug> Firstly, you mean the Portable Apps Platform or any portable app?
19:57:37 <pa_7049> I 'think' I'm referencing the Portable Apps Platform.
19:58:34 <pa_7049> I would need the Portable Apps Platform to make things work, right?
20:00:13 <kAlug> Not really. But using it gives a handy interface to open apps. And it also has a tool to automatically download, install and update apps.
20:02:41 <kAlug> You can install both the Platform and the apps on any local drive (i.e. not a network share).
20:02:58 <pa_7049> I see. Can you perhaps explain what I'd need or how to make things portable.
20:03:58 <kAlug> You have an application and want to make it portable, that's it?
20:04:10 <kAlug> (Sorry, English is not my native language)
20:04:47 <pa_7049> You're english is great.
20:05:07 <pa_7049> Yes, I'd like to free up my computer really.
20:05:38 <pa_7049> Making things portable and temporary seems like a good idea.
20:06:10 <pa_7049> I'd like to get more performance out of my PC.
20:07:10 <kAlug> Ah, there are some steps to do it. This is our "reference guide": http://portableapps.com/node/14868 . A bit outdated, but the best we have at the moment.
20:07:13 <pa_7049> Your [not you're] english is great. My english is rusty!
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20:14:34 <pa_7049> I could ideally remove programs or a browser (like) Firefox and install a Firefox portable app and use it from an external hard drive?
20:17:03 <kAlug> Yes. The only problem you would face is that portable apps don't directly support file associations. Some next release of the Platform will add automatic support for that, and in the meantime you can use http://portableapps.com/node/15583 or http://portableapps.com/node/27101
20:20:04 <pa_7049> Would the 'PortableFileAssociator' would have to be installed one time... and would that work on all apps and files?
20:21:27 <pa_7049> Also, what would be the difference between the two files?
20:24:05 <kAlug> While it's running. You would have to register each file extension.
20:24:32 <kAlug> I personally recommend eXpresso. It's a lot easier. Just run it and double-click any file.
20:25:19 <pa_7049> Is eXpresso a portable app?
20:25:40 <kAlug> Yes.
20:27:29 <pa_7049> Then the eXpresso works as the PortableFileAssociator?
20:30:23 <pa_7049> For example if I was to run Firefox, I'd run 'eXpresso' and then click Firefox?
20:33:14 <kAlug> No. They serve so you can double-click an HTML file in Explorer and then it'll open in Firefox Portable.
20:34:34 <pa_7049> okay.
20:37:04 <pa_7049> So would I need to use the 'eXpresso' or 'PortableFileAssociator' to open HTML files? Not necessarily all files.
20:39:15 <kAlug> You can just open the portable app and open the file from it. These eXpresso and Portable File Associator are just a convenient method to open the files without opening the app first.
20:41:40 <pa_7049> I see. What size hard drive would you recommend for best performance?
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20:44:16 <kAlug> The size is irrelevant to performance. It only matters for how much apps you can install on it. You can use http://portableapps.com/apps/utilities/crystaldiskmark_portable to check the velocity (= performance) of your drive.
20:46:20 <pa_7049> So an 8GB would be more than adequate for a bunch of prtable apps?
20:47:20 <kAlug> Sure.
20:48:15 <pa_7049> What about music collections and graphics files... Would I need an additional external in conjunction with say 'that' 8GB with the portable apps?
20:49:35 <pa_7049> As long as the PC I was using had at least 2 USB ports, I guess... right?
20:50:50 <kAlug> I don't think so. I'd guess that except by the games, you can install every app here in less than 2GB. So it really depends on the size of the your music and graphics collection.
20:52:06 <pa_7049> For example, say I had a music collection of say 300 GB?
20:53:18 <pa_7049> Or graphic files I had to edit or just view, but totalled 30GB.
20:53:38 <kAlug> In this case you'll really need another drive. An external hard drive, preferentially.
20:53:48 <pa_7049> Okay.
20:55:18 <pa_7049> And could I use both externals together? Could they access each other?
20:56:05 <kAlug> Yes. As you said, "As long as the PC I was using had at least 2 USB ports".
20:56:20 <pa_7049> I see.
20:57:45 <pa_7049> If I was to download the 'Portable Apps Platform' would I need to uninstall programs and browsers? Would there be a conflict if I didn't?
21:00:03 <kAlug> No.
21:00:52 <kAlug> As long as you don't run a portable version of an app at the same time as a local version (and vice-versa).
21:06:30 <pa_7049> OKay, so if I was to (again) run (portable) Firefox. I'd need to access the external. NOT icons on my desktop.
21:07:12 <kAlug> Correct.
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21:11:40 <pa_7049> Will other programs that are not portable apps work? Can they be made into portable apps?
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21:13:32 <kAlug> Well, it would require much more work. See the link I posted above ( http://portableapps.com/node/14868 ).
21:14:11 <kAlug> Or you can just post in the "Request Apps" forum and hope that someone decides to make it portable...
21:15:14 <pa_7049> I see.
21:17:31 <pa_7049> I think you've answered most of my questions. I appreciate you're time/patience and knowledge of portable apps.
21:18:25 <pa_7049> [you're] did it again...YOUR time
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22:53:12 <pa_0945> the portable app download doesn't run on winxp
22:53:36 <pa_0945> I keep receiving an error that it's not a valid win32 application
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22:58:58 <kAlug> Argh... lost it again!
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