IRC Log from 2012-01-25

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00:37:54 <vf2nsr> the silence in here is deafening lol
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04:18:33 <GordCaswell> Hi GizmoBot!
04:21:22 <vf2nsr> Anyone feel like helping get un barin cramped
04:21:42 <vf2nsr> Want to meve a folder in apdir to PalData dir
04:22:00 <vf2nsr> brain not working on the syntax for directories move
04:25:05 <GordCaswell> DIRECTORY=%PAL:AppDir%\TARGETDIRECTORY
04:25:20 <GordCaswell> Since that's really what you want ;)
04:25:42 <GordCaswell> DIRECTORY = directory in %PAL:DataDir%
04:26:43 <vf2nsr> Yup I was right stupid keyboard was wrong thanks typo'ed the directory name :(
04:26:53 <vf2nsr> told ya brain cramped
04:26:57 <GordCaswell> no problem
04:27:03 <vf2nsr> tyvn GordCaswell
04:27:16 <GordCaswell> what's n stand for? LOL
04:27:19 <vf2nsr> Images supposed to A in it lol
04:27:22 <vf2nsr> not imges
04:27:33 <GordCaswell> yup
04:28:41 <GordCaswell> I'm trying to solve this: http://portableapps.com/node/30649 Anyone know if this will take care of it? http://pastebin.com/ttjtGj0b
04:29:05 <GordCaswell> Note that I have tried it in my own build, and it aborts somewhere. Not sure where yet
04:29:54 <vf2nsr> <<<way above me
04:30:31 <GordCaswell> heh. I think I've got it figured out, but since it's not working properly, I've got something wrong somwhere
04:31:56 <Mir> greatingsa great .lord caswell
04:32:10 <GordCaswell> hey Mir
04:32:31 <Mir> how arth though sir noble knight thgis night
04:33:08 <Scriptdaemon> lol
04:33:21 <GordCaswell> pretty good. trying to solve this issue (points up a few lines)
04:41:50 <Scriptdaemon> GordCaswell, how many apps are on the queue for release that have been submitted to John?
04:42:45 <GordCaswell> regrettably, only Pingus Portable so far. KiTTY Portable's nearly there, just needs to be reviewed again, and then it should be ready to go
04:43:16 <Scriptdaemon> Ah.
04:43:42 <Scriptdaemon> If you're looking to put more on the list, I'd say Red Eclipse would be a good release.
04:43:45 <Scriptdaemon> Cough. >.>
04:44:33 <GordCaswell> lol. K, i'll add it to the list
04:44:36 <Scriptdaemon> :D
04:45:24 <Scriptdaemon> I don't package any of them so it's not self promotion like that was, but I think we need a true IDE. Have you taken a look at MINGW and CodeBlocks?
04:45:52 <Scriptdaemon> MingW*
04:46:11 <GordCaswell> I've used CodeBlocks a little, and installed MingW, but haven't looked closely at either of them.
04:47:08 <Scriptdaemon> Speaking of, do you know whether or not the Android SDK is open source? I believe it is, but I can't seem to find the source for it. I was thinking that I might do a plugin for Eclipse Portable when that's ever released.
04:47:32 <GordCaswell> the thing with MinGW for now is that it uses CommonFiles, which is a case-by-case install location, decided by John.
04:47:58 <Scriptdaemon> Ah, as it might need different things for different apps?
04:49:47 <GordCaswell> Nope. he just doesn't want to install very many things there. So far, he's only OK'd Java and Ghostscript.
04:49:57 * GordCaswell is looking at it right now
04:50:13 <Scriptdaemon> Then... what's the point of even having CommonFiles?
04:51:02 <Scriptdaemon> If there are a few apps that need it and it doesn't do anything specific for each app, it'd use less space just being in CommonFiles.
04:51:10 <Scriptdaemon> *Shrug*
04:51:17 <GordCaswell> It's for "Common Files", which, arguably. MinGW is, John just hasn't approved it yet
04:51:29 <GordCaswell> I"m sure it'll probably happen at some point
04:51:47 <Scriptdaemon> Probably.
04:55:08 <Scriptdaemon> I saw a discussion about OpenJDK in the Eclipse thread. Is he working on getting that released?
04:55:38 <GordCaswell> Looks like it, yeah. That would also go in CommonFiles
04:57:26 <Scriptdaemon> Eclipse would be a nice release. Especially if I (or someone) were to do a plugin for Android SDK.
04:57:37 <Scriptdaemon> I do a lot of mobile app development for work and school.
04:57:58 <Scriptdaemon> So OpenJDK would be nice.
04:58:24 <Scriptdaemon> Are other Java apps still on pause? They would just use jPortable, no?
04:59:48 <Scriptdaemon> (I don't have as much time for PA.c, though I still try to remain active for my already released apps. So every now and then I need to catch up. =P )
04:59:50 <GordCaswell> Ok, it looks like the Android SDK is open source: http://source.android.com/source/downloading.html
05:00:03 <Scriptdaemon> Schweet.
05:00:14 <Scriptdaemon> I'll see if I can start it this weekend.
05:00:24 <GordCaswell> Yeah, other Java apps are still on pause. Not too sure why, but that's what the bossman has decided. :)
05:00:32 <Scriptdaemon> Lame.
05:00:58 <GordCaswell> you mean a plugin like this: http://developer.android.com/sdk/eclipse-adt.html
05:02:02 <GordCaswell> oh, never mind, a plugin for the SDK itself.
05:02:02 <Scriptdaemon> Well you still need the actual SDK. I was thinking a plugin for Eclipse Portable that would install as a subdirectory, but now that I think about it I think Netbeans can also be used for Android development, so I might just go for a full app.
05:02:45 <Scriptdaemon> Plus it has some nice tools that I might add to the menu, depending on dev testing.
05:02:57 <GordCaswell> nice
05:07:08 <GordCaswell> i'm having issues thinking clearly - must be time for bed for me.
05:07:11 <GordCaswell> later!
05:07:13 <Scriptdaemon> Night.
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09:44:25 <pa_6245> hi
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10:00:55 <zoz> hello
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10:02:36 <zoz> it's a bug or a feature that while updating apps, entering the name of an app to start is messed up? [first letter is interpreted as other char]
10:04:44 <zoz> for instance, pressing w i got something that looks like this |- (one of the old ascii extended set used to build tables), pressing i looks like tab is pressed
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10:49:42 <pa_7579> Hi
10:50:40 <pa_7579> is there any way to tell the portable apps menu to appear on the left hand side on the screen and not the right hand site?
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16:40:10 <vf2nsr> grrrrr trrying to figure how to upoad to Sourceforge using SFTP and either filezila or something
16:40:10 <vf2nsr> grrrrr trrying to figure how to upoad to Sourceforge using SFTP and either filezila or something
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17:57:48 <pa_6512> Hello, I'm new to this app. Is there a way to create a portable app if one doesn't exist?
17:57:48 <pa_6512> Hello, I'm new to this app. Is there a way to create a portable app if one doesn't exist?
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18:14:53 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/26399
18:14:54 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/26399
18:15:02 <GordCaswell> vf2nsr: still trying to upload by sftp?
18:15:02 <GordCaswell> vf2nsr: still trying to upload by sftp?
18:18:37 <vf2nsr> yup
18:18:37 <vf2nsr> yup
18:18:45 <vf2nsr> and getting no wherew fast
18:18:46 <vf2nsr> and getting no wherew fast
18:19:03 <GordCaswell> k, do you have filzilla open?
18:19:03 <GordCaswell> k, do you have filzilla open?
18:19:07 <vf2nsr> can not get brain around the correct address to use for source forge
18:19:07 <vf2nsr> can not get brain around the correct address to use for source forge
18:19:11 <vf2nsr> yes
18:19:11 <vf2nsr> yes
18:19:22 <GordCaswell> go to site manger
18:19:22 <GordCaswell> go to site manger
18:19:49 <vf2nsr> k
18:19:49 <vf2nsr> k
18:19:58 <GordCaswell> add the site as follows: Host: frs.sourceforge.net
18:19:59 <GordCaswell> add the site as follows: Host: frs.sourceforge.net
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18:20:04 <GordCaswell> Protocol: SFTP
18:20:05 <GordCaswell> Protocol: SFTP
18:20:12 <GordCaswell> Logon Type: Normal
18:20:13 <GordCaswell> Logon Type: Normal
18:20:36 <GordCaswell> User: YOURUSENAME,YOURPROJECT
18:20:36 <GordCaswell> User: YOURUSENAME,YOURPROJECT
18:20:44 <GordCaswell> no spaces, make sure you have the ,
18:20:44 <GordCaswell> no spaces, make sure you have the ,
18:20:54 <GordCaswell> Password: YOURPASSWORD
18:20:54 <GordCaswell> Password: YOURPASSWORD
18:20:57 <GordCaswell> that's it
18:20:57 <GordCaswell> that's it
18:21:01 <vf2nsr> kk
18:21:01 <vf2nsr> kk
18:21:33 <vf2nsr> leave port empty?
18:21:33 <vf2nsr> leave port empty?
18:22:18 <GordCaswell> yep
18:22:19 <GordCaswell> yep
18:22:33 <vf2nsr> says authentication failed
18:22:34 <vf2nsr> says authentication failed
18:23:23 <vf2nsr> account empty as well?
18:23:23 <vf2nsr> account empty as well?
18:23:34 <GordCaswell> oh, right, there's more tabs
18:23:34 <GordCaswell> oh, right, there's more tabs
18:23:38 <GordCaswell> nope
18:23:38 <GordCaswell> nope
18:24:12 <GordCaswell> what's your project name?
18:24:13 <GordCaswell> what's your project name?
18:24:19 <vf2nsr> vf2nsrtesting
18:24:19 <vf2nsr> vf2nsrtesting
18:24:38 <GordCaswell> for remote directory, enter this: /home/frs/project/v/vf/vf2nsrtesting
18:24:38 <GordCaswell> for remote directory, enter this: /home/frs/project/v/vf/vf2nsrtesting
18:24:53 <GordCaswell> now try it
18:24:53 <GordCaswell> now try it
18:26:13 <vf2nsr> same error
18:26:13 <vf2nsr> same error
18:26:19 <Simeon> hi all
18:26:19 <Simeon> hi all
18:26:28 <GordCaswell> hmmm...
18:26:29 <GordCaswell> hmmm...
18:26:33 <GordCaswell> hi Simeon
18:26:33 <GordCaswell> hi Simeon
18:28:14 <vf2nsr> gettin gcloser le tme try a few things
18:28:14 <vf2nsr> gettin gcloser le tme try a few things
18:28:58 <GordCaswell> let's review: General tab: Host: frs.sourceforge.net ; Protocol: SFTP ; Logon: Normal ; User: vf2nsr,vf2nsrtesting ; Password: WHATEVERYOURPASSWORDIS
18:28:58 <GordCaswell> let's review: General tab: Host: frs.sourceforge.net ; Protocol: SFTP ; Logon: Normal ; User: vf2nsr,vf2nsrtesting ; Password: WHATEVERYOURPASSWORDIS
18:29:36 <vf2nsr> GordCaswell: hang moment please
18:29:36 <GordCaswell> Advanced Tab: default remote directory: /home/frs/project/v/vf/vf2nsrtesting
18:29:36 <vf2nsr> GordCaswell: hang moment please
18:29:37 <GordCaswell> Advanced Tab: default remote directory: /home/frs/project/v/vf/vf2nsrtesting
18:30:42 <GordCaswell> brb
18:30:43 <GordCaswell> brb
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18:33:13 <vf2nsr> b
18:33:14 <vf2nsr> b
18:33:19 <vf2nsr> checkin git all again
18:33:19 <vf2nsr> checkin git all again
18:34:37 <vf2nsr> figured it out
18:34:37 <vf2nsr> figured it out
18:35:06 <vf2nsr> /home/frs/project/v/vf/vf2nsrtesting should have been /home/frs/project/v/vf2nsr/vf2nsrtesting
18:35:06 <vf2nsr> /home/frs/project/v/vf/vf2nsrtesting should have been /home/frs/project/v/vf2nsr/vf2nsrtesting
18:35:12 <vf2nsr> GordCaswell|AFK: thanks
18:35:12 <vf2nsr> GordCaswell|AFK: thanks
18:37:07 <vf2nsr> now need to figure where the uploads are lol
18:37:08 <vf2nsr> now need to figure where the uploads are lol
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18:45:45 <GordCaswell|AFK> ;.bvdlsvdf
18:45:46 <GordCaswell|AFK> ;.bvdlsvdf
18:45:46 <GordCaswell|AFK> \4\
18:45:46 <GordCaswell|AFK> \4\
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18:47:21 <GizmoBot> ve4jhj is the developer of Scribus Portable and Armagetron Advanced Portable
18:47:22 <GizmoBot> ve4jhj is the developer of Scribus Portable and Armagetron Advanced Portable
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18:51:37 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/26399
18:51:37 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/26399
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19:26:14 <vf2nsr> GordCaswell: you still here?
19:26:14 <vf2nsr> GordCaswell: you still here?
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19:40:54 <vf2nsr> TY GordCaswell got it workin g now much appreciate the help
19:40:54 <vf2nsr> TY GordCaswell got it workin g now much appreciate the help
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20:11:02 <GordCaswell> YW vf2nsr
20:11:02 <GordCaswell> YW vf2nsr
20:11:22 <GordCaswell> i'm lurking while being AFK
20:11:22 <GordCaswell> i'm lurking while being AFK
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20:52:39 <pa_4658> help
20:52:39 <pa_4658> help
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20:52:39 <GizmoBot> pa_4658: Welcome to the PortableApps.com official chatroom. Ask your question and someone should be able to help you shortly. If you still don't get an answer, try posting on the forums: http://portableapps.com/forums
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20:53:21 <pa_4658> IS it possable to create folders within the app so they show when you run start.exe
20:53:21 <pa_4658> IS it possable to create folders within the app so they show when you run start.exe
20:55:14 <vf2nsr> within what app?
20:55:14 <vf2nsr> within what app?
20:56:27 <pa_4658> when you run portableapps.com you gert the menu, on the right you get documents music etc. i would like to seperate portable apps in to diff sections like utilities office etc
20:56:27 <pa_4658> when you run portableapps.com you gert the menu, on the right you get documents music etc. i would like to seperate portable apps in to diff sections like utilities office etc
20:58:20 <vf2nsr> categories is already built into the new client
20:58:20 <vf2nsr> categories is already built into the new client
20:58:37 <vf2nsr> are you on the newest platform?
20:58:37 <vf2nsr> are you on the newest platform?
20:58:48 <pa_4658> yes downloaded today
20:58:48 <pa_4658> yes downloaded today
20:59:05 <vf2nsr> ok so in that case click options
20:59:05 <vf2nsr> ok so in that case click options
20:59:26 <vf2nsr> then choose on eof the categories views
20:59:26 <vf2nsr> then choose on eof the categories views
21:00:03 <vf2nsr> that will put your apps into the pre defined categories
21:00:03 <vf2nsr> that will put your apps into the pre defined categories
21:00:25 <vf2nsr> as each app has an assigned category
21:00:25 <vf2nsr> as each app has an assigned category
21:02:39 <pa_4658> everything is just appearing in Other
21:02:40 <pa_4658> everything is just appearing in Other
21:02:50 <vf2nsr> are tehy apps you created?
21:02:50 <vf2nsr> are tehy apps you created?
21:03:02 <vf2nsr> or apps from the PA site?
21:03:02 <vf2nsr> or apps from the PA site?
21:03:09 <pa_4658> nope. downloaded direct from the site
21:03:09 <pa_4658> nope. downloaded direct from the site
21:03:17 <vf2nsr> for instance?
21:03:17 <vf2nsr> for instance?
21:03:41 <vf2nsr> app name?
21:03:41 <vf2nsr> app name?
21:03:47 <pa_4658> onscreen keyboardportable
21:03:48 <pa_4658> onscreen keyboardportable
21:04:24 <pa_4658> i used the same name as in the categorries in pa
21:04:24 <pa_4658> i used the same name as in the categorries in pa
21:04:25 <vf2nsr> did you install it or just download it?
21:04:25 <vf2nsr> did you install it or just download it?
21:04:43 <pa_4658> just downloaded at the moment
21:04:44 <pa_4658> just downloaded at the moment
21:05:04 <vf2nsr> you need to install them for them to work
21:05:04 <vf2nsr> you need to install them for them to work
21:05:11 <pa_4658> ahhh ok thank you
21:05:11 <pa_4658> ahhh ok thank you
21:05:16 <pa_4658> i will try that
21:05:16 <pa_4658> i will try that
21:05:25 <vf2nsr> after you install them into the platform they will appear corectly
21:05:25 <vf2nsr> after you install them into the platform they will appear corectly
21:05:37 <vf2nsr> gl
21:05:37 <vf2nsr> gl
21:21:51 <vf2nsr> pa_4658: any luck
21:21:51 <vf2nsr> pa_4658: any luck
21:25:36 <pa_4658> Yes thanks. got it eventually. thanks for your help.
21:25:37 <pa_4658> Yes thanks. got it eventually. thanks for your help.
21:28:59 <vf2nsr> yqw enjoy
21:28:59 <vf2nsr> yqw enjoy
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