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01:38:28 <GizmoBot> SergentSiler is a PortableApps.com Menu Themer, his theme website is http://silerhost.site50.net
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04:37:10 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/26399
04:37:11 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/26399
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08:54:31 <vf2nsr> Morning Gizmobot annd Gizmokid2005
08:54:31 <vf2nsr> Morning Gizmobot annd Gizmokid2005
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12:56:27 <vf2nsr> Working on an app that forces Win7 out of areo mode and into Basic mode, then returns the screen to nromal on exit is there a way in PAL to do this or would it have to rely on th ehost computer to accomplish this
12:56:27 <vf2nsr> Working on an app that forces Win7 out of areo mode and into Basic mode, then returns the screen to nromal on exit is there a way in PAL to do this or would it have to rely on th ehost computer to accomplish this
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13:36:24 <Guest87679> Is there an app that would be able to open and use outlook data?
13:36:24 <Guest87679> Is there an app that would be able to open and use outlook data?
13:39:56 <marlop> Guest87679: thunderbird can import some outlook data
13:39:56 <marlop> Guest87679: thunderbird can import some outlook data
13:43:36 <Guest87679> My goal is to be able to do mail merges. (not email merges) currently we use outlook and word.
13:43:36 <Guest87679> My goal is to be able to do mail merges. (not email merges) currently we use outlook and word.
13:45:10 <Gizmokid2005> Guest78999: data like that is usually just loaded from a global address book
13:45:10 <Gizmokid2005> Guest78999: data like that is usually just loaded from a global address book
13:45:25 <Gizmokid2005> but if you're using exchange, you're more/less limited to outlook alone.
13:45:25 <Gizmokid2005> but if you're using exchange, you're more/less limited to outlook alone.
13:45:53 <Gizmokid2005> though for mail merges, you're looking for that functionality inside of like LIbreOffice
13:45:53 <Gizmokid2005> though for mail merges, you're looking for that functionality inside of like LIbreOffice
13:46:04 <Gizmokid2005> which I'm not sure if it exists entirely to do what you're looking for.
13:46:04 <Gizmokid2005> which I'm not sure if it exists entirely to do what you're looking for.
13:48:13 <Guest87679> no exchange server, just a home user. But we're using an old vrsion of word and outlook (2003). want to start using it at home and at work, but cannot afford two copies of office, so am excited about these free portable apps. The biggest thing we need to do, though, is mail merges with form letters and envelopes. All our data is in outlook. Although, we have synced it with a google account. Not sure if there's any way
13:48:13 <Guest87679> no exchange server, just a home user. But we're using an old vrsion of word and outlook (2003). want to start using it at home and at work, but cannot afford two copies of office, so am excited about these free portable apps. The biggest thing we need to do, though, is mail merges with form letters and envelopes. All our data is in outlook. Although, we have synced it with a google account. Not sure if there's any way
13:51:09 <vf2nsr> try libre office ? Instead of wo?
13:51:09 <vf2nsr> try libre office ? Instead of wo?
13:51:28 <Guest87679> libre doesn't have a contacts/outlook aspect ..
13:51:28 <Guest87679> libre doesn't have a contacts/outlook aspect ..
13:52:07 <Gizmokid2005> Guest78999: dump your contacts to a file?
13:52:07 <Gizmokid2005> Guest78999: dump your contacts to a file?
13:52:23 <Gizmokid2005> if you sync'd them with google, that's easy.
13:52:23 <Gizmokid2005> if you sync'd them with google, that's easy.
13:52:49 <vf2nsr> you can set it up I believe to send it through default email clinet such as thunderbird
13:52:50 <vf2nsr> you can set it up I believe to send it through default email clinet such as thunderbird
13:53:15 <vf2nsr> client
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14:06:32 <bencc> how can I update the chrome-dev portableapp ?
14:06:32 <bencc> how can I update the chrome-dev portableapp ?
14:07:00 <bencc> for me it's 18.0.1010.1 but there is a newer chrome-dev release
14:07:00 <bencc> for me it's 18.0.1010.1 but there is a newer chrome-dev release
14:11:37 <bencc> another issue is that the GoogleChromePortable.exe process is not killed when I'm closing chrome
14:11:37 <bencc> another issue is that the GoogleChromePortable.exe process is not killed when I'm closing chrome
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15:43:40 <emulatrix> I seem to have problems adding certain apps (Gnumeric & InkScape) from the Apps Directory. They always download to within a few kb of 100% and then I get a reget error. Any ideas?
15:43:41 <emulatrix> I seem to have problems adding certain apps (Gnumeric & InkScape) from the Apps Directory. They always download to within a few kb of 100% and then I get a reget error. Any ideas?
15:46:44 <vf2nsr> you downloadin git through the program or seperately
15:46:44 <vf2nsr> you downloadin git through the program or seperately
15:47:14 <vf2nsr> using the apps tstore menu or getting it from site?
15:47:14 <vf2nsr> using the apps tstore menu or getting it from site?
15:47:46 <emulatrix> apps store menu
15:47:46 <emulatrix> apps store menu
15:53:34 <emulatrix> downloading the paf.exe from the site and using "Install a new app" feature worked fine, just apps store causes a problem.
15:53:34 <emulatrix> downloading the paf.exe from the site and using "Install a new app" feature worked fine, just apps store causes a problem.
15:53:39 <vf2nsr> try downloading from site
15:53:39 <vf2nsr> try downloading from site
15:53:44 <vf2nsr> may be issue with the server
15:53:44 <vf2nsr> may be issue with the server
15:53:51 <vf2nsr> or report it on site forum
15:53:51 <vf2nsr> or report it on site forum
15:54:13 <emulatrix> Ok will do, thanks
15:54:13 <emulatrix> Ok will do, thanks
15:54:17 <vf2nsr> yqw
15:54:17 <vf2nsr> yqw
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16:05:06 <emulatrix> I have a feeling it could be AVG anti virus scanning the file and causing a timeout issue. It does seem like the larger the app the more likely it errors.
16:05:06 <emulatrix> I have a feeling it could be AVG anti virus scanning the file and causing a timeout issue. It does seem like the larger the app the more likely it errors.
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17:08:32 <vf2nsr> geez gizbit has there own advertising message lol
17:08:32 <vf2nsr> geez gizbit has there own advertising message lol
17:08:36 <vf2nsr> I wan t one too
17:08:36 <vf2nsr> I wan t one too
17:12:53 <vf2nsr> Anyone familiar with Allegro?
17:12:53 <vf2nsr> Anyone familiar with Allegro?
17:14:30 <vf2nsr> working on making portable a game that is written in Allegro works great on host computer but not once I try to run i t fro PAL just errors out the program with windows error can not figure why or what it is looking for
17:14:30 <vf2nsr> working on making portable a game that is written in Allegro works great on host computer but not once I try to run i t fro PAL just errors out the program with windows error can not figure why or what it is looking for
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17:49:05 <pa_3288> palogbot: Why do you keep logging things twice?
17:49:06 <pa_3288> palogbot: Why do you keep logging things twice?
17:57:44 <pa_3288> You guys need an eggdrop bot in here. One with a tcl script I have so I can leave a message for kAlug/Aerok.(And so other people can leave messages for people.)
17:57:44 <pa_3288> You guys need an eggdrop bot in here. One with a tcl script I have so I can leave a message for kAlug/Aerok.(And so other people can leave messages for people.)
18:04:12 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3288: GizmoBot is here for that.
18:04:12 <Gizmokid2005> pa_3288: GizmoBot is here for that.
18:04:24 <Gizmokid2005> .tell pa_3288 this is how it works.
18:04:24 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005: I'll pass that on when pa_3288 is around.
18:04:24 <Gizmokid2005> .tell pa_3288 this is how it works.
18:04:25 <GizmoBot> Gizmokid2005: I'll pass that on when pa_3288 is around.
18:04:30 <Gizmokid2005> thanks GizmoBot
18:04:30 <Gizmokid2005> thanks GizmoBot
18:04:30 <GizmoBot> Welcome Gizmokid2005!
18:04:30 <GizmoBot> Welcome Gizmokid2005!
18:05:15 <Gizmokid2005> now palogbot won't log things twice either.
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18:07:01 <pa_3288> .tell pa_9345 Didn't work last time.
18:07:01 <GizmoBot> pa_3288: I'll pass that on when pa_9345 is around.
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18:07:31 <pa_9345> Hrmm...
18:07:38 <pa_9345> I think you have a bug in your script
18:08:06 <pa_9345> No wait...now it works. It's just extremely delayed(got the message you sent finally)
18:09:34 <pa_9345> And now finally got the message I sent...
18:09:36 <pa_9345> Odd.
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18:10:35 <Flametail> .tell kAlug Sent you a couple emails in reply to the livezilla project. Enjoy the webserver, now finish testing :P
18:10:36 <GizmoBot> Flametail: I'll pass that on when kAlug is around.
18:10:44 <Flametail> .tell Aerok Sent you a couple emails in reply to the livezilla project. Enjoy the webserver, now finish testing :P
18:10:44 <GizmoBot> Flametail: I'll pass that on when Aerok is around.
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18:53:35 <GizmoBot> ZachThibeau is the main developer of PChat and is a developer with PortableApps.com
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20:50:07 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell is a PortableApps.com developer. The apps he is working on can be found here: http://portableapps.com/node/26399
20:51:15 <GordCaswell> .tell vf2nsr go to #gizmokid2005 and type .def vf2nsr Somethingforgizmobotto say
20:51:15 <GizmoBot> GordCaswell: I'll pass that on when vf2nsr is around.
20:51:33 <GordCaswell> Err... Forgot some spaces
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21:09:22 <satdav> hi is anyone about
21:10:16 <Gizmokid2005> satdav: likely
21:10:37 <satdav> I was wondering do you see the pidgin version you do
21:10:45 <satdav> why wont the official plugins work on it
21:11:31 <Gizmokid2005> they will
21:11:40 <Gizmokid2005> if you install them correctly. I have multiple plugins running in pidgin portable
21:11:44 <Gizmokid2005> and have without issues for quite a while
21:12:43 <Gizmokid2005> what plugins do you refer to satdav?
21:12:52 <satdav> the ort one
21:12:57 <Gizmokid2005> OTR?
21:13:15 <satdav> http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/
21:13:19 <Gizmokid2005> works fine here.
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21:13:49 <satdav> were do i install it under
21:17:32 <Gizmokid2005> you just need to open the installer with 7zip (or similar) and pull the pidgin-otr.dll file and put it either in \Data\settings\.purple\plugins or \App\Pidgin\plugins in the PidginPortable folder
21:21:46 <satdav> winrar i use
21:27:44 <Gizmokid2005> so long as you can extract from the installer.
21:31:01 <satdav> cool wont let me to
21:31:08 <satdav> is the t zip one free
21:31:26 <Gizmokid2005> 7zip is even portable.
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21:31:37 <satdav> will get it
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21:49:14 <satdav> for all of the dev Gizmokid2005 I am realeasing firefox next week
21:49:27 <satdav> well 5 days time the new version
21:49:30 <satdav> 10.0
21:49:35 <satdav> just for your updates
21:51:26 <ZachThibeau> satdav: we do dev builds on portableapps.com and we do it within the confines of the trademarks and copyright of Mozilla, you should wait for us to release our build
21:51:54 <satdav> yes but i am giving you notice
21:52:00 <satdav> of the next release for
21:52:04 <satdav> public
21:52:11 <satdav> would be good for the beta builds
21:52:18 <satdav> and also acora builds
21:53:06 <satdav> you should have a svn clinet on their
21:55:46 <ZachThibeau> we know and have a build process, meaning you do not have to tell us about anything
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21:58:13 <satdav> do you plan to add a svn client
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22:13:02 <satdav> can I suggest you do spark
22:13:08 <satdav> do a portable version of that
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23:29:11 <ZachThibeau> my bad satdav didn't see your hostname, I feel like a fool for saying what I did
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23:29:48 <satdav> its fine
23:30:48 <satdav> ZachThibeau, I was wondering will you guys be doing seo monkey
23:32:03 <ZachThibeau> I couldn't tell you off hand really, the mozilla apps are really John Haller's domain so it's really up to him
23:35:55 <satdav> whats his irc nick
23:36:06 <ZachThibeau> JohnTHaller
23:36:11 <vf2nsr> are programs written in c++ dependent on the .net framework?
23:37:23 <ZachThibeau> no
23:37:31 <vf2nsr> hmmm ok
23:37:43 <ZachThibeau> most of the applications I write are entirely in c++
23:37:49 <ZachThibeau> it's c# you are thinking of
23:38:13 <satdav> furefix us c++
23:38:21 <satdav> I am sure and .net
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23:38:58 <ZachThibeau> firefox uses c++ and the xul framework
23:38:58 <satdav> I am on their support and marketing also do qa
23:39:09 <ZachThibeau> and iirc a .net plugin
23:39:19 <ZachThibeau> and cool
23:39:38 <sar3th> vf2nsr: they may be dependant on a c++ runtime that does not come with the operating system
23:39:50 <kAlug> Hello, hello!
23:39:55 <vf2nsr> ok ty
23:41:01 <ZachThibeau> yeah that's about it especially if you use visual studio family of compilers
23:41:18 <satdav> Hello kAlug
23:41:38 <ZachThibeau> hey kAlug
23:41:40 <vf2nsr> trying to figure why when I run a program it runs great but when I run it in PAL it crashes and I see no dependencies for it
23:41:50 <vf2nsr> actaully creaed in allegro
23:42:12 <kAlug> Hello folks. What happened here since Monday?
23:42:41 <kAlug> vf2nsr: WorkingDirectory?
23:42:41 <ZachThibeau> vf2nsr: that's a programming library which iirc is c++ related libraries with some other bindings for other languages
23:43:55 <vf2nsr> ZachThibeau: so is there an easy way to see what is hanging up the app as far as PAL is concerned tried process explorer and filalzyer and can not figure
23:44:24 <ZachThibeau> I don't know my experience with pal isn't that great
23:44:47 <vf2nsr> ok tyvm
23:45:41 <ZachThibeau> I mean the only app that I developed only uses the multilingual aspect of pal and that's about it
23:45:53 <vf2nsr> understand
23:46:57 <vf2nsr> oh well not much of an app anway and it is clean on run just won't launch under PA launcher was just for my fin anyway a mhjong clone
23:47:16 <vf2nsr> guess it goes on back burner for now
23:47:29 <kAlug> vf2nsr: Are you sure you don't need to set the working directory?
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23:47:55 <vf2nsr> interesting thought let me try
23:49:00 <sar3th> vf2nsr: if you know how to use it, procmon is a good helper for this kind of job
23:49:39 <vf2nsr> yes I was using that and see nothing related to the exe in it
23:50:26 <kAlug> The only thing I can think of are env vars.
23:50:41 <vf2nsr> ZachThibeau: Yuo are teh MAN Working directory was it
23:50:58 <ZachThibeau> o_O
23:51:00 <vf2nsr> Never crossed my mind
23:51:35 <vf2nsr> like I said was just form my fun which is what most apps I dev are lol
23:51:55 <vf2nsr> or as someone said about Zaz just another mindless game
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23:57:09 <kAlug> If an app doesn't run under PAL, it's either a missing file, a wrong working directory, or a wrong environment variable.
23:59:11 <kAlug> ZachThibeau: How is your work on PChat going?